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01-08-2013, 09:32 AM
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The Grey looks nice, but it will never work.

It's not a dark, nor is it a white.

It could be used as a once a year type of thing, but will never stick as a alternate; unfortunately

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01-08-2013, 11:28 AM
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Ugh, again with the name change?
It will never end. Trust me.

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01-08-2013, 12:43 PM
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For everyone dead set on keeping the current logo, which I absolutely love and am still sad they are leaving Nassau, it doesn't make sense after the move.

Once they move to the Barclays center, the I pointing to where the Vet is becomes invalid and inaccurate, which I hate on logos. It becomes a classic logo like many others. I don't see how keeping the logo is the key to keeping the fans that are mad about the move.

I also would hate a name change, but just like with the logo, the name Islanders still strikes me as wrong. Yes, Brooklyn is technically on Long Island, but people who live in or are from Brooklyn don't say Long Island.

As a person who is big into logos/unis, it irritates me to have inaccuracies in names and logos. It would kill me to see the Islanders no longer the Islanders and have a new logo, but having a name and logo based on a location that changes loses validity.

Personally I look forward to a Brooklyn jersey and love the original concept harkening to the Dodgers. The Brooklyn Bridge is a great icon and makes a great logo, it would be silly not to utilize it.
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01-08-2013, 01:06 PM
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Change the logo to include Brooklyn and call it a day.

Go wild on the third.

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01-08-2013, 01:42 PM
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where is LIU again??
It's funny that it is actually further West(and from Long Island) than the Barclays Center.

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Change the logo to include Brooklyn and call it a day.

Go wild on the third.
Don't forget that little place called Queens too.


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01-09-2013, 05:45 AM
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where is LIU again??
Not only that. My sister was born in Long Island College Hospital (unrelated to LIU).

Which is, of course, in Brooklyn.

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For everyone dead set on keeping the current logo, which I absolutely love and am still sad they are leaving Nassau, it doesn't make sense after the move.

Once they move to the Barclays center, the I pointing to where the Vet is becomes invalid and inaccurate, which I hate on logos. It becomes a classic logo like many others. I don't see how keeping the logo is the key to keeping the fans that are mad about the move.

I also would hate a name change, but just like with the logo, the name Islanders still strikes me as wrong. Yes, Brooklyn is technically on Long Island, but people who live in or are from Brooklyn don't say Long Island.

As a person who is big into logos/unis, it irritates me to have inaccuracies in names and logos. It would kill me to see the Islanders no longer the Islanders and have a new logo, but having a name and logo based on a location that changes loses validity.

Personally I look forward to a Brooklyn jersey and love the original concept harkening to the Dodgers. The Brooklyn Bridge is a great icon and makes a great logo, it would be silly not to utilize it.
I'm probably the polar opposite of you, in that I'm a Brooklyn native, and while my uncle was an Islanders season ticket holder and went to hundreds of games in the 70's and 80's, I've been a Devils fan for as long as I can remember. So to say that I'm true blue (well, orange and blue) with the Isles would be a bit of a stretch.

But I can't fathom the idea of the Islanders changing their name and identity just because they're moving a few miles west.

Sure, a lot of people, myself included, are going to be a lot more interested in the team now that they're out of the Mausoleum. I don't have a car, like many people in Brooklyn, so I've only been there a handful of times. Not to mention, it's a terrible arena. Not that I'm saying anything you don't already know.

I'll go to countless games at Barclays, and unless they're playing New Jersey, I'll be dressed head-to-toe in Islanders gear. They've always been my second team anyway.

But that's just it. It's the Islanders, and their colors are orange and blue. Period. Want to change "New York" to "Brooklyn"? By all means, they can consider that... but to stop being the Islanders is, well, to throw away forty years of history, four cups, and the legacy of where they came from. I don't think Brooklynites or people from Staten Island or Queens will embrace the team any more if they wipe the slate clean and call themselves something else.

Even the Nets, who wanted to entirely change their image with the move to Brooklyn, didn't dare change their name from "Nets" to "New Yorkers" or "Ballers" or whatever the plan-b was, and they haven't had nearly as much success or a devoted fanbase as you have. Keep in mind, they used to play in Long Island, too... but they moved to Jersey because they didn't have enough fans, and then they moved to Brooklyn for the same reason. The Islanders have never had to leave Long Island because of fans. They're leaving primarily because of the building. Getting new fans is an added bonus.

As for Brooklyn-related logos and jerseys, most of the stuff I've seen is pretty awful, but I did like this one:



Sure, it's based off the hated Gorton's fisherman logo, but I think the bridge improves it greatly.

[Summary for those who don't feel like reading some nobody's wall of text: I'm from Brooklyn, but don't change the name or the colors.]

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01-09-2013, 08:22 AM
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Not only that. My sister was born in Long Island College Hospital (unrelated to LIU).

Which is, of course, in Brooklyn.



I'm probably the polar opposite of you, in that I'm a Brooklyn native, and while my uncle was an Islanders season ticket holder and went to hundreds of games in the 70's and 80's, I've been a Devils fan for as long as I can remember. So to say that I'm true blue (well, orange and blue) with the Isles would be a bit of a stretch.

But I can't fathom the idea of the Islanders changing their name and identity just because they're moving a few miles west.

Sure, a lot of people, myself included, are going to be a lot more interested in the team now that they're out of the Mausoleum. I don't have a car, like many people in Brooklyn, so I've only been there a handful of times. Not to mention, it's a terrible arena. Not that I'm saying anything you don't already know.

I'll go to countless games at Barclays, and unless they're playing New Jersey, I'll be dressed head-to-toe in Islanders gear. They've always been my second team anyway.

But that's just it. It's the Islanders, and their colors are orange and blue. Period. Want to change "New York" to "Brooklyn"? By all means, they can consider that... but to stop being the Islanders is, well, to throw away forty years of history, four cups, and the legacy of where they came from. I don't think Brooklynites or people from Staten Island or Queens will embrace the team any more if they wipe the slate clean and call themselves something else.

Even the Nets, who wanted to entirely change their image with the move to Brooklyn, didn't dare change their name from "Nets" to "New Yorkers" or "Ballers" or whatever the plan-b was, and they haven't had nearly as much success or a devoted fanbase as you have. Keep in mind, they used to play in Long Island, too... but they moved to Jersey because they didn't have enough fans, and then they moved to Brooklyn for the same reason. The Islanders have never had to leave Long Island because of fans. They're leaving primarily because of the building. Getting new fans is an added bonus.

As for Brooklyn-related logos and jerseys, most of the stuff I've seen is pretty awful, but I did like this one:



Sure, it's based off the hated Gorton's fisherman logo, but I think the bridge improves it greatly.

[Summary for those who don't feel like reading some nobody's wall of text: I'm from Brooklyn, but don't change the name or the colors.]
Nice post and welcome! I don't understand this obsession with changing the name of this franchise either. As another poster on our board stated (OlTimeHockey), if the Lakers didn't change their name when they moved from Minnesota to LA, why do the Islanders have to change their name WHEN THEY STILL PLAY ON LONG ISLAND? It doesn't make any sense to me. To have the same question raised by a native Brooklynite, should really quell all the concerns out there.

BTW, I like that idea for a 3rd jersey EXCEPT for the fishsticks font used in ISLANDERS. The move into Brooklyn should be the first step in erasing the dark days of the franchise's history. That period should not be revisited under any circumstances, unless someone is teaching a course in how not to run a professional sports franchise!

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01-09-2013, 12:32 PM
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Strummer, to be fair....

The Lakers moved to LA. LA county has a wonderful hamlet called Lakewood. Charming place where someone followed my girlfriend and I in my car and we had to duck for fear of being shot at. So the lake came in just dandily.

Unless you can prove the Brooklyn area has aboriginees or pygmees intent on savagery, I think we should change the name and erase all the history. Just 'cuz.

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01-11-2013, 05:36 AM
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Do the Canarsie Indians count? They lived in Brooklyn and sold Manhattan to the Dutch for some beads. That's pretty savage.

They should have kept Manhattan obviously, in retrospect.

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Don't forget that little place called Queens too.

I was gonna suggest just having Brooklyn a floating island on the logo but that works too

And Kings County King, your not the only one whose said that. I know Ranger fans who would go to Isles games because MSG is too expensive for a night out and for our location, Barclays is alot closer. I don't know if they would outright convert, but there are hockey fans out there who would attend as an alternative to MSG. I think there are enough Ranger hating hockey fans and casual hockey fans to fill seats with in addition to the diehard fanbase. We know Nassau sells out for playoff berths and that with no transport access and run down arena.

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01-12-2013, 12:05 PM
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Absolutely.

Most of my friends who are Isles or Devils fans hate the Rangers as much (if not more) than they like their own teams. Being able to go to an arena in NYC that isn't owned by Dolan and doesn't cost your firstborn child will be a huge draw, even if Wang doesn't give us a competitive team.

I've seen a lot of people wearing the "Brooklyn" Isles exhibition shirt, even though the game never took place, because there's excitement in the borough for NHL hockey from people who may not be big on basketball. This move won't have to convert Ranger fans. It will create Islander fans.

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