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01-08-2013, 09:05 AM
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not really interested in Poti but i would love to add Orlov to our squad.

the only thing i'm not sure about is how our owner would feel about that.

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What if we make it a smaller trade? Only for Setoguchi? Seto, 3rd rounder for Orlov? That's negotiatable. It may seem like the Caps steal, but Seto can just walk away in two seasons, you have to take it into account.
1st rounder has more value to ourorganization than it'd have in a trade. We need to finish the core we've been building for the future with either 2LD or 2C.
Looked deeper into Seto situation. He has three straight bad years and only has one good in his career. Seto, 1st rounder for Orlov, 3d rounder?


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01-08-2013, 09:58 AM
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01-08-2013, 11:35 AM
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What if we make it a smaller trade? Only for Setoguchi? Seto, 3rd rounder for Orlov? That's negotiatable. It may seem like the Caps steal, but Seto can just walk away in two seasons, you have to take it into account.
1st rounder has more value to ourorganization than it'd have in a trade. We need to finish the core we've been building for the future with either 2LD or 2C.
Looked deeper into Seto situation. He has three straight bad years and only has one good in his career. Seto, 1st rounder for Orlov, 3d rounder?
I like how you say you can't trade your first and then have us throw in ours. We have the top prospect pool in the NHL by building through the draft. The only way were trading our first is in a package for an established top 2 defenseman.

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01-08-2013, 12:34 PM
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Any interest in overpaying for Korpikoski while reducing the Wild's cap?

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01-08-2013, 01:20 PM
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Any interest in overpaying for Korpikoski while reducing the Wild's cap?
No need for him at the moment. If the Wild are going to make a trade, it's for a D man right now. Not that I wouldn't mind seeing Korpikoski in a Wild sweater someday...

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01-08-2013, 01:50 PM
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Trade all that for a soon to be UFA and a player who already left here once before? Nope.
N. Schultz + Hemsky?

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I like how you say you can't trade your first and then have us throw in ours. We have the top prospect pool in the NHL by building through the draft. The only way were trading our first is in a package for an established top 2 defenseman.
That's the reason why I could see you trading your first - you have enough good prospects already. We badly need a top-6 center prospect and having two picks in the next draft would sure help.

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01-08-2013, 08:51 PM
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Maybe Seto+Phillips for Shattenkirk?

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That's the reason why I could see you trading your first - you have enough good prospects already. We badly need a top-6 center prospect and having two picks in the next draft would sure help.
The goal is to maintain a high end prospect pool, you don't do that by trading your first pick, and the Wild don't trade it just to help you out.

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The goal is to maintain a high end prospect pool, you don't do that by trading your first pick, and the Wild don't trade it just to help you out.
I thought the goal is to win the games and you do this with actual established players, not with the picks. Or you would be satisfied just with 1st place in HF's organizational rankings?

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I thought the goal is to win the games and you do this with actual established players, not with the picks. Or you would be satisfied just with 1st place in HF's organizational rankings?
You continue to win games for an extended amount of time by maintaining a high end prospect pool. Yeah you can have a good team for a couple years, and maybe win a cup, or you can have a good team for 20 years, and maybe win two or three cups.

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The goal is to maintain a high end prospect pool, you don't do that by trading your first pick, and the Wild don't trade it just to help you out.
If you already have a good prospect pool you might be interested in getting some immediate help. As romao said, prospect pools don't win games.

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You continue to win games for an extended amount of time by maintaining a high end prospect pool. Yeah you can have a good team for a couple years, and maybe win a cup, or you can have a good team for 20 years, and maybe win two or three cups.
Or you can be like Columbus - maintaining high end prospect pool just to make playoffs once in 10 years.

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01-09-2013, 06:54 AM
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I think if the Iginla becomes unrealistic, a big trade between the Pens and Wild is very possible.

I really hope Martin has a comeback season so we can package him for a winger like Seto :p

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Maybe Seto+Phillips for Shattenkirk?
I like this trade. I would do it.

Also like the idea of Seto for Orpik + a mid pick. 3rd/4th?

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01-09-2013, 10:24 AM
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I thought the goal is to win the games and you do this with actual established players, not with the picks. Or you would be satisfied just with 1st place in HF's organizational rankings?
You don't get an amazing team by trading away prospects and picks. The Kessel trade is a perfect example.

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N. Schultz + Hemsky?
Done. Maybe the only Wild fan who would, but I'd totally do that.

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Assuming Anaheim can lock-up Getz and Perry, I'd think Minny could have interest in Ryan. Another guy to add to "Team USA".

If Clutterbuck can play LW, I'd love to see him banging bodies, creating space and cycling with Getz/Perry on the top line.

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01-09-2013, 04:55 PM
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Assuming Anaheim can lock-up Getz and Perry, I'd think Minny could have interest in Ryan. Another guy to add to "Team USA".

If Clutterbuck can play LW, I'd love to see him banging bodies, creating space and cycling with Getz/Perry on the top line.

Ryan

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2nd round pick or something similar?
Done. No idea how they'd make the cap hits work but, done.

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You don't get an amazing team by trading away prospects and picks. The Kessel trade is a perfect example.
Well, if you expect to finish at the bottom-10, then yes. Good luck out there, you signed Parise and Suter exactly for chasing that #1 OA pick.

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Assuming Anaheim can lock-up Getz and Perry, I'd think Minny could have interest in Ryan. Another guy to add to "Team USA".

If Clutterbuck can play LW, I'd love to see him banging bodies, creating space and cycling with Getz/Perry on the top line.

Ryan

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Setoguchi
Clutterbuck
2nd round pick or something similar?
First of all, Minnesota does this 150 times out of 100. Second, Clutterbuck has no business being on a top line (or NHL calibre 2nd line) and he's really not that good of a cycle player.

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Done. No idea how they'd make the cap hits work but, done.
Cap hit wouldn't be an issue. It's only a net increase of $700k.

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Cap hit wouldn't be an issue. It's only a net increase of $700k.
Thinking more long term. He'd be due a raise, plus several others in the pipeline in that time frame. It'd be difficult to add a spendy player with the players you also expect to be on the Wild for the next 3-5 years. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it'd be difficult to justify it at forward and not defense.

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Thinking more long term. He'd be due a raise, plus several others in the pipeline in that time frame. It'd be difficult to add a spendy player with the players you also expect to be on the Wild for the next 3-5 years. Not saying it couldn't be done, but it'd be difficult to justify it at forward and not defense.
He's at $5.1m, so I'm not sure how much higher he'll go. You know as well as I do the contracts coming off the books. If worst comes to worst, he gives us 3 (hopefully) great years right in the beginning of our contention window and then moves on, hopefully as a SC winner.

You have to admit, this looks pretty damn good...

Parise - Koivu - Coyle
Zucker - Granlund - Ryan

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He's at $5.1m, so I'm not sure how much higher he'll go. You know as well as I do the contracts coming off the books. If worst comes to worst, he gives us 3 (hopefully) great years right in the beginning of our contention window and then moves on, hopefully as a SC winner.

You have to admit, this looks pretty damn good...

Parise - Koivu - Coyle
Zucker - Granlund - Ryan
Sexy

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