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01-08-2013, 07:44 PM
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yakupov is a first line foward
He will be. Of course, he's going to need time to develop. You know, like we spent the last few years doing with Ryan.

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01-08-2013, 07:45 PM
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considering he projects to be like a 50g winger...

I bet you would have passed on Crosby too when he hadn't proved anything.
This place is ridiculous sometimes.

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01-08-2013, 07:49 PM
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This place is ridiculous sometimes.
Dude, you said it. Ryan at his best is a 35g winger, not bad, but if you have the chance to trade him for a legit cannot miss prospect that could definitely score 50+goals=, your crazy. anaheim is an aging team, soon koivu and selanne will retire and as of right now, Getzlaf and Perry may or may not resign.

If you have a chance to get a better piece when you guys are looking to either do a quick rebuild or retool or w/e, now would be that time to do it.

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01-08-2013, 07:54 PM
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Dude, you said it. Ryan at his best is a 35g winger, not bad, but if you have the chance to trade him for a legit cannot miss prospect that could definitely score 50+goals=, your crazy. anaheim is an aging team, soon koivu and selanne will retire and as of right now, Getzlaf and Perry may or may not resign.

If you have a chance to get a better piece when you guys are looking to either do a quick rebuild or retool or w/e, now would be that time to do it.
When did I say that Ryan at his best is a 35 goal winger?

Also, get the **** out of here with the can't miss 50+ goals stuff. He IS NOT guaranteed to do that.

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01-08-2013, 08:07 PM
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When did I say that Ryan at his best is a 35 goal winger?

Also, get the **** out of here with the can't miss 50+ goals stuff. He IS NOT guaranteed to do that.
hfboard has spoken, ryan will never score more then 35 and yakupov is going to have a minimum of 50 a season for his career

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01-08-2013, 08:25 PM
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hfboard has spoken, ryan will never score more then 35 and yakupov is going to have a minimum of 50 a season for his career
Have you seen him? He's a first line player who's never played a minute of NHL hockey!

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01-08-2013, 08:28 PM
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Have you seen him? He's a first line player who's never played a minute of NHL hockey!
I know after next season we wont even know who giroux crosby or stamkos are. Gretzky better watch out.

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01-08-2013, 08:33 PM
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This place is ridiculous sometimes.
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Unbias view...I'd rather have Ryan over Yakupov and would expect something to be added to Yakupov to get me to trade Ryan.

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01-08-2013, 08:48 PM
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Ryan worth more than a first overall ? seriously, personnaly i'd take yakupov over Ryan, to play with gally

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Ha. Haha.

Keep holding your breath, Toronto...

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Yakupov hasnt even played a NHL game yet chill tha fock out. He PROBABLY will be great, Ryan however IS great now so why should ducks do it? The 10% chance that yakupov would "bust" is still a bigger gamble then just keeping Ryan.

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01-08-2013, 08:57 PM
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Ryan worth more than a first overall ? seriously, personnaly i'd take yakupov over Ryan, to play with gally
Bobby Ryan was a 2nd overall pick, and to be honest, where he was picked isn't even relevant anymore. He's a consistent 30-goal scorer(and he's done it without 1st unit PP time). How about Yakupov prove he can even do that much before you anoint him a future 50-goal scorer.

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01-08-2013, 09:00 PM
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Brian Burke is a huge Ryan fan and with his name being in trade rumors this past offseason I'd like to revisit what it would take for Toronto to acquire him.

We need size on the wings for sure, despite acquiring JVR.

For starters would something like this make sense for Anaheim?

Carl Gunnarson - Top 4 minutes eating D-man
Nikolai Kulemin - Top 6 forward
Tyler Biggs - Potential top 6 PF

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I don't mind that, however I would take out Tlyer Biggs from being traded because I don't want Toronto giving up on him this fast.

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01-08-2013, 09:02 PM
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Anaheim has DSP, they don't need Biggs.
Their blue line looks solid as it is so no huge need for Gunnar.
Kulemin is actually a good idea considering they need more depth at forward.

No from Anaheim

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01-08-2013, 09:07 PM
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Yakupov hasnt even played a NHL game yet chill tha fock out. He PROBABLY will be great, Ryan however IS great now so why should ducks do it? The 10% chance that yakupov would "bust" is still a bigger gamble then just keeping Ryan.
to save money short term and maybe yakupov havent play a single game in the league but hes at least in the top 6 of any team.

But I don't understand why the oilers would like to do that

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01-08-2013, 09:08 PM
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I doubt they'll trade Ryan without having resigned Getz and Perry. Even once they resign, I still don't think he'll be moved. Also, there are probably better trading partners than Toronto.

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to save money short term and maybe yakupov havent play a single game in the league but hes at least in the top 6 of any team.

But I don't understand why the oilers would like to do that
Irrelevant, because Anaheim would say no. Bobby Ryan is a proven asset, and a damn good one.

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01-08-2013, 09:10 PM
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i don't know that yakupov's junior numbers even suggest that he'd be a lock to be a 50 goal scorer, so i really don't know where people are getting these assumptions from other than hype.

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Brian Burke is a huge Ryan fan and with his name being in trade rumors this past offseason I'd like to revisit what it would take for Toronto to acquire him.

We need size on the wings for sure, despite acquiring JVR.

For starters would something like this make sense for Anaheim?

Carl Gunnarson - Top 4 minutes eating D-man
Nikolai Kulemin - Top 6 forward
Tyler Biggs - Potential top 6 PF

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I think it would be in our best interest to keep our own players. Gunnar and Kulemin would be too hard to replace. Ryan is great, but we don't have a need for him, especially if we go hard after Getz and Perry in the offseason.

Great offer though. Very respectable. Anahiem would be very appreciative if they got that package from Toronto. Of course they could get similar offers from other teams as well, as Ryan would be in high demand if available.

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Holy **** guys. Chill the **** out. This right here, is homerism at its finest folks. I
am by no means a Yak fan boy at all...but to say that he's not a "can't miss" prospect is outrageous. The kid is going to be an offensive dynamo.

There's no denying that and we all knew it when he was drafted.

Ryan is 25 and is playing in his prime years right now. Chances are...this 30-35g range is where he will stay, considering he hasn't pushed past it yet. He still might, but it's looking more and more doubtful.

There is no need to get your panties in a bunch because I said that yak will be better then Ryan is.

Not to mention for the first three years he's alot cheaper too.

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01-08-2013, 09:21 PM
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Holy **** guys. Chill the **** out. This right here, is homerism at its finest folks. I
am by no means a Yak fan boy at all...but to say that he's not a "can't miss" prospect is outrageous. The kid is going to be an offensive dynamo.

There's no denying that and we all knew it when he was drafted.

Ryan is 25 and is playing in his prime years right now. Chances are...this 30-35g range is where he will stay, considering he hasn't pushed past it yet. He still might, but it's looking more and more doubtful.

There is no need to get your panties in a bunch because I said that yak will be better then Ryan is.

Not to mention for the first three years he's alot cheaper too.
Oh Nostradamus how you doin?

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Holy **** guys. Chill the **** out. This right here, is homerism at its finest folks. I
am by no means a Yak fan boy at all...but to say that he's not a "can't miss" prospect is outrageous. The kid is going to be an offensive dynamo.

There's no denying that and we all knew it when he was drafted.

Ryan is 25 and is playing in his prime years right now. Chances are...this 30-35g range is where he will stay, considering he hasn't pushed past it yet. He still might, but it's looking more and more doubtful.

There is no need to get your panties in a bunch because I said that yak will be better then Ryan is.

Not to mention for the first three years he's alot cheaper too.
...you're calling them homers while projecting Yakupov as a 50-goal scorer, and basically calling Ryan nothing more than a 30-35 goal scorer? Riiiiight.

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Yakupov with his 3yr ELC is easily more valuable than Ryan.

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01-08-2013, 09:24 PM
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Ryan was on pace for about 40 goals his rookie season with Perry and Teemu getting the 1st unit minutes with Getzlaf. That is the way it has been his entire career up till this point. Teemu has basically indicated he isn't coming back after this season. We have a lot of reasons to assume that his goal totals will climb once he gets the prime minutes.

Will Yakupov equal or best him? Possibly, but he could also turn into Daigle 2.0. Saving a few dollars isn't worth taking on that risk.

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