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Luongo: Is the light getting brighter?

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01-09-2013, 12:34 AM
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Not trying to be a stickler, just think you were selling him a little short at 33%. 67% seems much more probable, no? Either way, I can't say I'm as confident as Palindrom, who has him pegged at 99.9% in your quote. Makes you wonder why we're trading him...

I should have put a at the end. No worries, all good.

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01-09-2013, 12:37 AM
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I think oiler fans would be fine with it.
I think it's a win-win for both teams... but what do I know...

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I think it's a win-win for both teams... but what do I know...
Too much cap coming to Vancouver. Presents us with the same cap problems we would face if we kept Lu.

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First Jason Botchford is an idiot, while edmonton might make sense, i don't believe any canuck fan thinks eberle is an realistic piece coming back, it might be what we want but then again i want crosby on the canucks as well.

Second higgins put up GP71 G18 A25 P43 last year while playing with 1:42 on the power play while Bozak put up GP73 G18 A 29 P47 playing 2:47 on the power play, a whole freaking min more with better players too as our second unit sucked last year.

so tell me again how much better Bozak (who is a UFA to be) is so much better than Chris Higgins who as a UFA to be we got for a 3rd.

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Too much cap coming to Vancouver. Presents us with the same cap problems we would face if we kept Lu.
in an ideal world it would work as hemsky would look pretty good beside kesler but we all know he'll probably end up beside kesler on the IR

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a report from the toronto sun has stated the deal is bozak frattin 2nd for luongo. don't know how accurate that is but on the off chance it's true that is BRUTAL for the canucks

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a report from the toronto sun has stated the deal is bozak frattin 2nd for luongo. don't know how accurate that is but on the off chance it's true that is BRUTAL for the canucks
That's already been proven to be bogus.

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a report from the toronto sun has stated the deal is bozak frattin 2nd for luongo. don't know how accurate that is but on the off chance it's true that is BRUTAL for the canucks
it's not true.

If it actually were true, you'd see me on the news with a pitchfork outside of rogers arena.

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a report from the toronto sun has stated the deal is bozak frattin 2nd for luongo. don't know how accurate that is but on the off chance it's true that is BRUTAL for the canucks
Gillis wouldn't settle for that, that's why this process has taken forever.

Either Kadri or Gardiner has to come back to make Gillis satisfied.

Even Keith Aulie wouldn't be bad, but he doesn't really help us out right now.

I just don't see Bozak, Frattin and a 2nd being the deal.

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a report from the toronto sun has stated the deal is bozak frattin 2nd for luongo. don't know how accurate that is but on the off chance it's true that is BRUTAL for the canucks

I'd say what makes it "brutal" is the 2nd not being a 1st. As to the players, they fit, so I'm fine with them.



But it could be the Toronto Sun is using that fake twitter report as a source. FTR, Lu's agent came out and said that isn't true.




Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, that might be what Burke has on the table for Luongo. But obviously, Gillis has not yet accepted (otherwise Lu's agent would know).

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Gillis wouldn't settle for that, that's why this process has taken forever.

Either Kadri or Gardiner has to come back to make Gillis satisfied.

Even Keith Aulie wouldn't be bad, but he doesn't really help us out right now.

I just don't see Bozak, Frattin and a 2nd being the deal.
I'd be worried about Kadri in our system. AV would have him planted in the pressbox.

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in an ideal world it would work as hemsky would look pretty good beside kesler but we all know he'll probably end up beside kesler on the IR
This. We'd be trading Lu for a guy who has averaged 65 games out of 82 a season his entire NHL career. He misses on average 21% of the season. Plus his cap hit is 5 mill. Terrible trade.

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Gillis wouldn't settle for that, that's why this process has taken forever.

Either Kadri or Gardiner has to come back to make Gillis satisfied.

Even Keith Aulie wouldn't be bad, but he doesn't really help us out right now.


I just don't see Bozak, Frattin and a 2nd being the deal.
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Keith Aulie was traded for Carter Ashton at the TDL.

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Keith Aulie was traded for Carter Ashton at the TDL.
Sorry, not thinking straight apparently.

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I'd be worried about Kadri in our system. AV would have him planted in the pressbox.
Maybe we could trade him to Buffalo in a year or two.

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Gillis wouldn't settle for that, that's why this process has taken forever.

Either Kadri or Gardiner has to come back to make Gillis satisfied.

Even Keith Aulie wouldn't be bad, but he doesn't really help us out right now.

I just don't see Bozak, Frattin and a 2nd being the deal.
Aulie is gone.

And Frattin >>> Aulie anyways

Frattin is a bull on skates with a great shot.

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I'd say what makes it "brutal" is the 2nd not being a 1st. As to the players, they fit, so I'm fine with them.



But it could be the Toronto Sun is using that fake twitter report as a source. FTR, Lu's agent came out and said that isn't true.




Edit: Actually, now that I think about it, that might be what Burke has on the table for Luongo. But obviously, Gillis has not yet accepted (otherwise Lu's agent would know).
I don't believe this report but doesn't his agent have to say that since the CBA is not technically offical?

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I don't believe this report but doesn't his agent have to say that since the CBA is not technically offical?

His agent shouldn't be say anything, for or against. For him to answer definitively right now means that Gillis has conveyed an explicit yes/no to him. Meaning, they are operating with out a ratified CBA. A big no no.


I think this is the offer on the table actually. Burke could have this out there and is waiting to see if Gillis takes it.

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His agent shouldn't be say anything, for or against. For him to answer definitively right now means that Gillis has conveyed an explicit yes/no to him. Meaning, they are operating with out a ratified CBA. A big no no.


I think this is the offer on the table actually. Burke could have this out there and is waiting to see if Gillis takes it.
Not really. It could just mean that Luongo still hasn't been asked to waive his NTC yet. If that were the case he could publicly deny it and not have operated without a ratified CBA.

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Not really. It could just mean that Luongo still hasn't been asked to waive his NTC yet. If that were the case he could publicly deny it and not have operated without a ratified CBA.
So Gillis hasn't told Roberto that there is a deal yet?

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So Gillis hasn't told Roberto that there is a deal yet?
Am I supposed to know the answer to this? I was just outlining the potential plausible deniability.

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I think the Canucks should wait until the summer to reevaluate the goalie situation.

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Am I supposed to know the answer to this? I was just outlining the potential plausible deniability.

I know, it just seems like a greater leap to me. Especially when Gillis and Roberto had a pow wow and nothing definite was conveyed. It's why he played the PC role in the media, IMO, to bump the value. If he's still trying to get value for MG, then MG isn't getting what he wants yet, ergo no deal.


But in fairness, you have guys like Shannon saying done deal. Who knows what's going on?

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Sorry, not thinking straight apparently.
We can see that. You mentioned Gardiner before that even.

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Gillis wouldn't settle for that, that's why this process has taken forever.

Either Kadri or Gardiner has to come back to make Gillis satisfied.

Even Keith Aulie wouldn't be bad, but he doesn't really help us out right now.

I just don't see Bozak, Frattin and a 2nd being the deal.
Good. I hope Roberto goes to Florida or Chicago or Kiev, for that matter. Anywhere but Toronto unless the price is a third round draft choice or lower.

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