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I never said they would, and neither did the poster you quoted. For Buffalo, it would absolutely take more than Kadri to pry Sekera away.
Would you prefer if I stayed humble with you? That isn't my style and I could care less about the Leaf "reputation" LOL. The real Leaf fans couldn't care less about that. Sekera is replaceable. His talent is not on par with Kadri's. He's not worth a Kadri.
I respect Buffalo fans asking for more. I didn't think the offer was a lowball. MacArthur has scored 20+ goals on multiple occasions and I figured they needed depth on scoring.
Would you prefer if I stayed humble with you? That isn't my style and I could care less about the Leaf "reputation" LOL. The real Leaf fans couldn't care less about that. Sekera is replaceable. His talent is not on par with Kadri's. He's not worth a Kadri.
Until Kadri proves he can hang in the NHL he is an unproven and oft-criticized 'prospect'(if u can even call him that anymore)...sekera on the other hand has established a resume as a shutdown defender very capable of facilitating and joining a rush. he is also on a great contract which honestly increases his value to another level when asked about in trades.
I havent scouted Colborne much this year have only seen "stats" and his size so I dont know a ton about him and dont pretend to but if he was defensively responsible Id consider having him as a piece in a trade...a Kulemin or depth scorer would likely be useful too...
Would you prefer if I stayed humble with you? That isn't my style and I could care less about the Leaf "reputation" LOL. The real Leaf fans couldn't care less about that. Sekera is replaceable. His talent is not on par with Kadri's. He's not worth a Kadri.
Man, you're going to be heartbroken when your lover Kadri is traded away for Lu once the CBA is ratified.
Yeah, as to the OP, the Sabres need help up front but not at the cost of Sekera. We would like an upgrade with Stafford but obviously we can't have Kessel.
Man, you're going to be heartbroken when your lover Kadri is traded away for Lu once the CBA is ratified.
Yeah, as to the OP, the Sabres need help up front but not at the cost of Sekera. We would like an upgrade with Stafford but obviously we can't have Kessel.
K well man, if that does happen, it's way more logical. Lu is an Elite tendy. It's not Sekera. At that point you're at least getting bang for your buck (and that's taking into consideration both sides).
Would you prefer if I stayed humble with you? That isn't my style and I could care less about the Leaf "reputation" LOL. The real Leaf fans couldn't care less about that. Sekera is replaceable. His talent is not on par with Kadri's. He's not worth a Kadri.
What you feel Kadri is worth isn't the issue. It was asked what Toronto could offer to get Sekera from Buffalo, and it pretty obviously takes more than Kadri. How many teams have dealt cost-controlled young top-4 d-men for a decent prospect with no other motivation?
What you feel Kadri is worth isn't the issue. It was asked what Toronto could offer to get Sekera from Buffalo, and it pretty obviously takes more than Kadri. How many teams have dealt cost-controlled young top-4 d-men for a decent prospect with no other motivation?
Haha What I feel kadri is worth isn't the issue... You're talking about a leaf player, one of your fanboys threw it out there. I told you guys and I'm going to repeat it again, whether or not a leaf fan is chasing Sekera, Kadri is a no, JVR is a bigger no at this point. I could care less if you disagree.
I like Sekera, and I don't want to give up the assets to get him. So, I'm happy to watch him flourish in Buffalo, while the Leafs will attempt to fill their need internally, or seek another option via trade. Thank you for your time, and my apologies for that angry guy destroying the thread.
Haha What I feel kadri is worth isn't the issue... You're talking about a leaf player, one of your fanboys threw it out there. I told you guys and I'm going to repeat it again, whether or not a leaf fan is chasing Sekera, Kadri is a no, JVR is a bigger no at this point. I could care less if you disagree.
I'm not a Sabres fan.
If Toronto wants Sekera, the cost is higher than Kadri. You have a seller presumably unmotivated to subtract a key player signed long-term in order to acquire a non-elite prospect. That's not a shot against Kadri - deals like that just don't really ever happen. If Buffalo moves a cost-controlled member of their top-4, it's for NHL help.
I respect Buffalo fans asking for more. I didn't think the offer was a lowball. MacArthur has scored 20+ goals on multiple occasions and I figured they needed depth on scoring.
The Sabres went down the MacArthur path before, and as much as I like his game, all reports were that moving him was a good thing for the locker room.
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Originally Posted by inthewings
I'm not a Sabres fan.
If Toronto wants Sekera, the cost is higher than Kadri. You have a seller presumably unmotivated to subtract a key player signed long-term in order to acquire a non-elite prospect. That's not a shot against Kadri - deals like that just don't really ever happen. If Buffalo moves a cost-controlled member of their top-4, it's for NHL help.
Don't you dare try to inject common sense into this discussion.
I respect Buffalo fans asking for more. I didn't think the offer was a lowball. MacArthur has scored 20+ goals on multiple occasions and I figured they needed depth on scoring.
More than depth on scoring, we need a 3rd/4th line guy that could take the lion's share of defensive zone draws and really solidify our PK.
Steckel would be a PERFECT fit for the Sabres, but you guys would be nuts to give him up. And I wouldn't want to give up Sekera for him. Leopold-for-Steckel would be fine with me, but you more or less have a Leopold clone in Liles (or is Leopold a Liles clone).
Sekera, Myers, and Ehrhoff when all healthy make our defense formidable. Without one or the other it just wasn't the same last year with all our injuries. Sekera is the sabres best kept secret on defense.
We need a decent defensive center, so I'd first look to Bozak. Next, Darcy would want a defenseman with top-4 potential, so I think he'd look at Finn or Percy. It's a steep price, but the issue is what Toronto would have to give up for Sekera, it's probably at least Bozak + Finn/Percy.
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I respectfully disagree with some of my fellow Sabre fans and think Sekera is very available. He would come at a relatively steep price though. As I put in the other thread, Kadri + Finn.
I doubt Sekera is at all available. He's one of the few non-ELC's who's a decent value on our roster both in term and in dollars. Even if you assume he's not a top-pairing defender--and that's an argument for a different thread--he's certainly no worse than than a #3. And for three years and $2.75m per, he's a good deal.
Further, I don't think they'd have much interest in Kadri. I think Kadri is the hockey equivalent of the quadruple-A baseball player: a guy too good for the minors, but won't be much of an impact player in his role. I'm higher on Kadri than most non-Leafs fans on HF, but I don't think Darcy would be too interested in him in a Sekera deal.
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Sabres say no.
However he doesn't really fit with Toronto being another LHD of which we have plenty, he's a great player and plays a similar to Gunnarson.
Who are the Sabres RHD not including Myers?
Sulzer. And the only righty in Rochester likely to see the light of day in Buffalo is Pysyk.
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I respect Buffalo fans asking for more. I didn't think the offer was a lowball. MacArthur has scored 20+ goals on multiple occasions and I figured they needed depth on scoring.
He was a tweener in Buffalo, and I don't think he enjoyed his role with the Sabres. And I think the feeling was mutual, so I don't think Regier would want him back.
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Originally Posted by inthewings
I'm not a Sabres fan.
If Toronto wants Sekera, the cost is higher than Kadri. You have a seller presumably unmotivated to subtract a key player signed long-term in order to acquire a non-elite prospect. That's not a shot against Kadri - deals like that just don't really ever happen. If Buffalo moves a cost-controlled member of their top-4, it's for NHL help.
We need a decent defensive center, so I'd first look to Bozak. Next, Darcy would want a defenseman with top-4 potential, so I think he'd look at Finn or Percy. It's a steep price, but the issue is what Toronto would have to give up for Sekera, it's probably at least Bozak + Finn/Percy.
I doubt Sekera is at all available. He's one of the few non-ELC's who's a decent value on our roster both in term and in dollars. Even if you assume he's not a top-pairing defender--and that's an argument for a different thread--he's certainly no worse than than a #3. And for three years and $2.75m per, he's a good deal.
Further, I don't think they'd have much interest in Kadri. I think Kadri is the hockey equivalent of the quadruple-A baseball player: a guy too good for the minors, but won't be much of an impact player in his role. I'm higher on Kadri than most non-Leafs fans on HF, but I don't think Darcy would be too interested in him in a Sekera deal.
Sulzer. And the only righty in Rochester likely to see the light of day in Buffalo is Pysyk.
He was a tweener in Buffalo, and I don't think he enjoyed his role with the Sabres. And I think the feeling was mutual, so I don't think Regier would want him back.
There is no chance Sekera gets traded with the cap lowering next season. The only other two Dmen signed past this season are Ehrhoff and Myers. Even assuming McNabb replaces Sekera on his ELC, they'd still need to sign three UFA defensemen and fit them under the lowered cap, which I don't see happening.
It really makes no sense to put the team into that position when there are better trade candidates like Leopold and Brennan.
Regehr has a NTC and I doubt we'd ask him to waive it after the effort it took to get him to agree to come Buffalo in the first place.
Wow. That's all I have to say. Here's an idea for that angry Leaf fan: You don't like the cost? That's fine. Were perfectly happy to keep him. Its your team begging ours for talent. If you want a talented young shutdown defensemen on a GREAT contract who has proven to be able to put up points in international play, and is good enough to play with Chara on their country's team for the worlds, then you need to pay. You need to give to get. If we had wanted MacArthur, he'd still be here. We've already dumped him once before. Not to mention he doesn't even fill a need. We have plenty of viable bottom six wingers under contract.
We need more depth than that. Gardiner is injured as it is and while I would love for him to be ready for training camp, there is always a possibility that the concussion keeps him out for long.
