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Metro Seattle: NHL, NBA and Arena - Part V

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01-09-2013, 03:44 PM
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How is the NHL covered in Seattle media right now?

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Its not covered much because...we don't have a team.

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Its not covered much because...we don't have a team.
No way, huh? Is it the same for Hamilton or Quebec?

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No way, huh? Is it the same for Hamilton or Quebec?
What does Hamilton or Quebec have to do with seattle sports fans.

Seattle sports fans follow sports of teams that we have.

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01-09-2013, 03:50 PM
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What does Hamilton or Quebec have to do with seattle sports fans.

Seattle sports fans follow sports of teams that we have.
His point is that Hamilton and QC follow the NHL period. Seattle not so much.

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01-09-2013, 03:52 PM
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His point is that Hamilton and QC follow the NHL period. Seattle not so much.
That's Great.

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His point is that Hamilton and QC follow the NHL period. Seattle not so much.
Just to note QC already had an existing fanbase and a NHL team at one point. Hamilton area has the maple leafs.

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01-09-2013, 03:55 PM
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Ian Furness ‏@IanKJR

from one former #kings and longtime #NBA Exec $500 mil asking price is right on. also Mayor is working right now to get local group deal.


Sac Mayor trying to get a local group going to keep team there.

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Just to note QC already had an existing fanbase and a NHL team at one point. Hamilton area has the maple leafs.
Im not dissing seattle at all, just saying he feels Seattle is being favored by some because its not the south, me, I don't think that's a big deal at all. Personally I don't think that should have any bearing.

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01-09-2013, 04:29 PM
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Im not dissing seattle at all, just saying he feels Seattle is being favored by some because its not the south, me, I don't think that's a big deal at all. Personally I don't think that should have any bearing.
Thing is, Gary has a too big of an ego to move two teams in two years to Canada, that makes it perfectly logic for Seattle to be more of a relocation candidate than expansion candidate. Even more, when you, me and everyone else knows that he can get more from expansions in Canada than in the US.

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Thing is, Gary has a too big of an ego to move two teams in two years to Canada
Only if you're operating under the presumption that Bettman somehow "has it in" for Canada.

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Only if you're operating under the presumption that Bettman somehow "has it in" for Canada.
As far as I am concerned...all the way IN.

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As far as I am concerned...all the way IN.

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His point is that Hamilton and QC follow the NHL period. Seattle not so much.
Hamilton and Quebec don't have other sports to follow, besides Quebec City residents are a bunch of habs fans anyways, so they sort of have a team anyways, just the Hamilton and the Leafs.

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Thing is, Gary has a too big of an ego to move two teams in two years to Canada, that makes it perfectly logic for Seattle to be more of a relocation candidate than expansion candidate. Even more, when you, me and everyone else knows that he can get more from expansions in Canada than in the US.
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Only if you're operating under the presumption that Bettman somehow "has it in" for Canada.
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You guys are both wrong. It looks bad in the US media to move teams from US to Canada within 3 years. That's all. The NHL got raked over the hot coals because of Atlanta to Winnipeg. This plus the lockout = media narrative on the NHL failing in the US.

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Hamilton and Quebec don't have other sports to follow, besides Quebec City residents are a bunch of habs fans anyways, so they sort of have a team anyways, just the Hamilton and the Leafs.
True. Like I said that should have no bearing either way. There are lots of leafs fans who could care less about the NHL if that makes sense.

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Hamilton and Quebec don't have other sports to follow, besides Quebec City residents are a bunch of habs fans anyways, so they sort of have a team anyways, just the Hamilton and the Leafs.
I can assure you one thing, while there are some wannabe Habs fans in Quebec City (and there has always been) there is more ''peeing guy on habs logo stickets'' in this city than in any other anywhere in the world. (Pretty sure LA has some Rangers fans and NYC some Kings fans).

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You guys are both wrong. It looks bad in the US media to move teams from US to Canada within 3 years. That's all. The NHL got raked over the hot coals because of Atlanta to Winnipeg. This plus the lockout = media narrative on the NHL failing in the US.
I do agree with that it would hurt the league much more to move another team to Canada after this lockout than to move it within the USA. But that goes the inline with the argument that Gary Bettman hates us.

Anyway lets stop going off topic about other cities. If Seattle gets an NBA team, things are only looking positive for an NHL entity to follow.

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01-09-2013, 04:57 PM
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But that goes the inline with the argument that Gary Bettman hates us.

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Its not covered much because...we don't have team.
KJR ran live broadcasts of Canucks playoff games in the recent past I seem to recall. Particularly the cup finals.

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01-09-2013, 05:17 PM
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KJR ran live broadcasts of Canucks playoff games in the recent past I seem to recall. Particularly the cup finals.
They sure did.

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NHL to Seattle, next on the docket. Now that (it appears) things are a go for NBA, and thus a building. Wonder if this is a game-changer with regard to certain other relocatable entities.

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NBA already approved Key arena as a temporary facility. Its a non issue.
You misunderstand. The NBA will be the catalyst to get the arena done... doesn't mean the NHL will get Seattle a hockey team.

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01-09-2013, 05:55 PM
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Sac mayor KJ is gonna is now gonna try to get a local group with buyers to try to buy the team to keep them local.

Too little too late. imo. Never ASSUME a team isn't up to sale and assume that they are and prepare for such a case.

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I agree, KJ is a late assembling a group of white knights.

Though I smell nothing more than a PR stunt to say he did everything in his power to keep the Kings in town. The writing has been on the wall for a while and KJ doesn't want the Kings leaving town on his watch being his legacy. Plus being a former NBA player to boot.

Desperation...

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The NHL got raked over the hot coals because of Atlanta to Winnipeg. This plus the lockout = media narrative on the NHL failing in the US.
They did? Oh, you mean for the "failing South" thing.

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Thing is, Gary has a too big of an ego to move two teams in two years to Canada, that makes it perfectly logic for Seattle to be more of a relocation candidate than expansion candidate. Even more, when you, me and everyone else knows that he can get more from expansions in Canada than in the US.
You just said it yourself: Adding Canadian teams via expansion rather than relocation is sound BUSINESS decision. Whether Bettman's ego is too big is either incorrect or moot.

That media narrative Munch mentioned would (and probably SHOULD) prevent him from allowing another Southern team to move out of the South. I think the best thing to do is add expansion teams in Seattle and Quebec and try to make inroads with Houston as the Coyotes' destination if/when the new owner wants to cut bait.

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NHL to Seattle, next on the docket. Now that (it appears) things are a go for NBA, and thus a building. Wonder if this is a game-changer with regard to certain other relocatable entities.
I believe it is a game-changer, if the studies they run show they think both the NBA and NHL can be successful they will jump to the front of the line. In a lot of ways Seattle has always made sense for the typical NHL fanbase in terms of cities. Big corporate sponsors (going to need some new ones probably) and tons of potential owners. Along with an affluent area which studies show the NHL has the largest percentage breakdown of in terms of the four major (I know hockey might not be one but not really debating it just making a point) North American leagues.

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