HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Pacific Division > Calgary Flames
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Predictions for Iginla In This Shortened Season

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-07-2013, 06:08 PM
  #26
3rdEye
HF Official Producer
 
3rdEye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: @HawnzDynasty
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,789
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ynnek View Post
Very true but I can dream. If Cammy somehow gets put on his opposite wing I could see it happening as that will create space for both.
This might be happening. Tanguay was on the FAN960 this morning and he was talking about them putting him at center. So we might be seeing a line of:

Cammalleri - Tanguay - Iginla

Interesting to say the least.

3rdEye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-07-2013, 06:18 PM
  #27
TheHudlinator
Registered User
 
TheHudlinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Victoria,BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,909
vCash: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoRD View Post
This might be happening. Tanguay was on the FAN960 this morning and he was talking about them putting him at center. So we might be seeing a line of:

Cammalleri - Tanguay - Iginla

Interesting to say the least.
Would make sense to put the play maker between the two shooters.

TheHudlinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-07-2013, 06:54 PM
  #28
3rdEye
HF Official Producer
 
3rdEye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: @HawnzDynasty
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,789
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGleninator View Post
Would make sense to put the play maker between the two shooters.
It definitely does. Plus he is defensively responsible. Anyone know what his career FO% is?

3rdEye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-07-2013, 07:03 PM
  #29
Flames92
Registered User
 
Flames92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Montreal, QC
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,190
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoRD View Post
It definitely does. Plus he is defensively responsible. Anyone know what his career FO% is?
I don't think its that high but if iggy ends up taking the majority of the faceoffs we should be fine

Flames92 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-07-2013, 07:51 PM
  #30
TheHudlinator
Registered User
 
TheHudlinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Victoria,BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,909
vCash: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoRD View Post
It definitely does. Plus he is defensively responsible. Anyone know what his career FO% is?
Only went back until the last lockout, he was never over 40% but only ever took a maximum of 107 draws. Basically he sucks at faceoffs but did play center in junior.

TheHudlinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 05:22 PM
  #31
3rdEye
HF Official Producer
 
3rdEye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: @HawnzDynasty
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,789
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGleninator View Post
Only went back until the last lockout, he was never over 40% but only ever took a maximum of 107 draws. Basically he sucks at faceoffs but did play center in junior.
We need a FO specialist BADLY. It will continue to destroy our special teams. This needs to be addressed.

3rdEye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 05:35 PM
  #32
CGYPUKSUX
The No Kool-aid Zone
 
CGYPUKSUX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hockey Purgatory
Posts: 2,078
vCash: 500
16g-18a-34P. That's a goal every .33 games, which is just slightly down from what he scored last season (a goal every .39 games). I think this might be generous considering Iginla hasn't been skating or playing at a high tempo while other players have been. There are those who suggest the Flames might play some more wide open hockey this year, but I'm not so certain. Depending on style of play and the responsibilities heaped on Iginla his numbers could possibly trend lower. Fire wagon hockey is likely the best hope to hit a target above 16 goals.


Last edited by CGYPUKSUX: 01-08-2013 at 05:45 PM.
CGYPUKSUX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 10:39 PM
  #33
Fleury14
Kipper
 
Fleury14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Toronto, ON
Country: United Kingdom
Posts: 4,553
vCash: 500
considering how he usually starts slowly and is now 36 after an extended lay-off, I'm not touching him in my pools but hoping for the best.

Fleury14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-08-2013, 11:14 PM
  #34
FlamesFreak4
Sven'sational!
 
FlamesFreak4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 609
vCash: 500
24g 23a = 47 pts

FlamesFreak4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 12:52 AM
  #35
TheHudlinator
Registered User
 
TheHudlinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Victoria,BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,909
vCash: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fleury14 View Post
considering how he usually starts slowly and is now 36 after an extended lay-off, I'm not touching him in my pools but hoping for the best.
This has become so over blown its crazy,
11-12 he had 4 points in 10 games. (missed all of camp it is understandable)
10-11 he had 7 points in 10 games solid start.
09-10 he had 8 points in 10 games thats a good start.
08-09 he had 12 points in 10 games thats a great start.

He is slowing down but outside of last year he has had no problem with early in the season. I don't know how this myth came to be but it is so false its not funny.

TheHudlinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 07:35 AM
  #36
CGYPUKSUX
The No Kool-aid Zone
 
CGYPUKSUX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hockey Purgatory
Posts: 2,078
vCash: 500
Iginla is a goal scorer. Look at his goal scoring numbers over the first three months of the season of see the trends that people refer to. Iginla is a slow starter. His game doesn't normally kick into gear until mid November, almost six weeks into the season. The Flames can't afford that start this season.

CGYPUKSUX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 08:14 AM
  #37
Fleury14
Kipper
 
Fleury14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Toronto, ON
Country: United Kingdom
Posts: 4,553
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGleninator View Post
This has become so over blown its crazy,
11-12 he had 4 points in 10 games. (missed all of camp it is understandable)
10-11 he had 7 points in 10 games solid start.
09-10 he had 8 points in 10 games thats a good start.
08-09 he had 12 points in 10 games thats a great start.

He is slowing down but outside of last year he has had no problem with early in the season. I don't know how this myth came to be but it is so false its not funny.
CPS beat me to it. But uhm, goals?

Points are nice and all, but with secondary assists, they're not always an accurate showing of generating production.

The Flames usually are at their best when Iggy is scoring (goals) consistently. Pretty much all our hot streaks of the last 10 years were also periods when Iginla was lighting the lamp (outside of some of the streaks Huselius put together).

Fleury14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 10:39 AM
  #38
Flames rebuilder
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,770
vCash: 500
17 g-23 a- 40pts

Flames rebuilder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 11:13 AM
  #39
TheHudlinator
Registered User
 
TheHudlinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Victoria,BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,909
vCash: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fleury14 View Post
CPS beat me to it. But uhm, goals?

Points are nice and all, but with secondary assists, they're not always an accurate showing of generating production.

The Flames usually are at their best when Iggy is scoring (goals) consistently. Pretty much all our hot streaks of the last 10 years were also periods when Iginla was lighting the lamp (outside of some of the streaks Huselius put together).

Disagree he is an underrated play maker there is no difference if he is scoring or setting up goals on the scoreboard.

TheHudlinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 11:46 AM
  #40
FLAMESFAN
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Country: Antarctica
Posts: 2,466
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGleninator View Post
Disagree he is an underrated play maker there is no difference if he is scoring or setting up goals on the scoreboard.
The point he is making is those famous streaks that Iggy has are much more around goals than assists. When he goes into goal scoring mode, we win.
He can put up a nice little point streak like 7/8 points in ten games, and we could still suck.

FLAMESFAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 01:44 PM
  #41
CGYPUKSUX
The No Kool-aid Zone
 
CGYPUKSUX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hockey Purgatory
Posts: 2,078
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGleninator View Post
Disagree he is an underrated play maker there is no difference if he is scoring or setting up goals on the scoreboard.
The win column seems to disagree with your theory.

CGYPUKSUX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 01:47 PM
  #42
TheHudlinator
Registered User
 
TheHudlinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Victoria,BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,909
vCash: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by CGYPUKSUX View Post
The win column seems to disagree with your theory.
My point is if he gets an assist or a goal either way we get a goal there is no reason he has to score to be considered doing well. I would take a 0G 82A season over a 30 G 0 A season. The only thing that matters is we are scoring and at the start of the year he does just fine helping the team score.

TheHudlinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 01:48 PM
  #43
TheHudlinator
Registered User
 
TheHudlinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Victoria,BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,909
vCash: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by FLAMESFAN View Post
The point he is making is those famous streaks that Iggy has are much more around goals than assists. When he goes into goal scoring mode, we win.
He can put up a nice little point streak like 7/8 points in ten games, and we could still suck.
Yes but that doesn't mean that 7 points in 10 games is a slow start. He is expected to help the team score and he does that every year since game 1.

TheHudlinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 04:23 PM
  #44
Money Baer
COYS
 
Money Baer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Moose Jaw, SK
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,442
vCash: 185
19G - 19A - 38pts

Money Baer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 05:56 PM
  #45
Calculon
unholy acting talent
 
Calculon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,248
vCash: 1000
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGleninator View Post
Yes but that doesn't mean that 7 points in 10 games is a slow start. He is expected to help the team score and he does that every year since game 1.
Well, one could argue that 7 points in 10 games is slow start given Iginla's offensive capabilities and star status.

Granted, as the lone superstar on the Flames, there's an unfair amount of pressure on Iginla to be the difference maker game in, game out. Good teams don't have to rely on one player to save them.

But I do agree that the whole Iginla's slow starts cost the team wins is unwarranted nonsense. ALL offensive players go through slumps and hot streaks over the course of an 82 game season. Iginla just happens to have his at the beginning. Good teams can absorb one players struggles with others picking up the slack.

Calculon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 05:57 PM
  #46
3rdEye
HF Official Producer
 
3rdEye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: @HawnzDynasty
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,789
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGleninator View Post
This has become so over blown its crazy,
11-12 he had 4 points in 10 games. (missed all of camp it is understandable)
10-11 he had 7 points in 10 games solid start.
09-10 he had 8 points in 10 games thats a good start.
08-09 he had 12 points in 10 games thats a great start.

He is slowing down but outside of last year he has had no problem with early in the season. I don't know how this myth came to be but it is so false its not funny.
As said too many times in all of sports, stats don't tell the whole story. I'm not doubting if you watch every game (I do) but he struggles early in the year, it is very apparent. He would even agree with you there. The points will come he gets top line minutes playing with our best players and PP time is a constant. He may get some points, but if you think Iggy in OCT-NOV is the same Iggy that he is late when the games REALLY matter, I don't know what to tell you.

3rdEye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 05:59 PM
  #47
InfinityIggy
Inflammatory Poster
 
InfinityIggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Calgary, AB
Country: Canada
Posts: 14,844
vCash: 355
Quote:
Originally Posted by Calculon View Post
Well, one could argue that 7 points in 10 games is slow start given Iginla's offensive capabilities and star status.

Granted, as the lone superstar on the Flames, there's an unfair amount of pressure on Iginla to be the difference maker game in, game out. Good teams don't have to rely on one player to save them.

But I do agree that the whole Iginla's slow starts cost the team wins is unwarranted nonsense. ALL offensive players go through slumps and hot streaks over the course of an 82 game season. Iginla just happens to have his at the beginning. Good teams can absorb one players struggles with others picking up the slack.
All very true. Using blind optimism maybe Cammy can return to superhero form and score 70~ this year.

InfinityIggy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 06:02 PM
  #48
TheHudlinator
Registered User
 
TheHudlinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Victoria,BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,909
vCash: 57
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoRD View Post
As said too many times in all of sports, stats don't tell the whole story. I'm not doubting if you watch every game (I do) but he struggles early in the year, it is very apparent. He would even agree with you there. The points will come he gets top line minutes playing with our best players and PP time is a constant. He may get some points, but if you think Iggy in OCT-NOV is the same Iggy that he is late when the games REALLY matter, I don't know what to tell you.
I agree he starts slow but people treat it like he does nothing for the first 10 - 15 games of the year he is still the best player or second best player on the team in his struggles. He starts slower than the rest of the year but he is still leading the team there is no way he should have to score every game for us to win.

TheHudlinator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 06:02 PM
  #49
Calculon
unholy acting talent
 
Calculon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,248
vCash: 1000
Quote:
Originally Posted by InfinityIggy View Post
All very true. Using blind optimism maybe Cammy can return to superhero form and score 70~ this year.
~70 in 48 is Jagr-esque. I think, even for blind optimism, that's a little too much to expect from Cammalleri.

Calculon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
01-09-2013, 06:06 PM
  #50
3rdEye
HF Official Producer
 
3rdEye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: @HawnzDynasty
Country: Canada
Posts: 17,789
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGleninator View Post
I agree he starts slow but people treat it like he does nothing for the first 10 - 15 games of the year he is still the best player or second best player on the team in his struggles. He starts slower than the rest of the year but he is still leading the team there is no way he should have to score every game for us to win.
You're 100% right. Kipper also shouldn't have to play lights out for 70+ games a year for us to win, but unfortunately thats been our team basically since the last lockout. Let's hope this isn't the case this year.

3rdEye is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:59 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.