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Team Defencemen Rankings #9

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Anaheim - Fowler, Beauchemin, Lydman, Souray, Allen, Sbisa 5 5.88%
Buffalo - Myers, Ehrhoff, Sekera, Regehr, Leopold, Sulzer 12 14.12%
Calgary - Bouwmeester, Giordano, Wideman, Butler, Sarich, Brodie 5 5.88%
Carolina - Pitkanen, Gleason, Faulk, McBain, Corvo, Harrison 3 3.53%
Colorado - E. Johnson, Hejda, Wilson, O'Byrne, O'Brien, Hunwick 2 2.35%
Columbus - J. Johnson, Tyutin, Wisniewski, Nikitin, Aucoin, Moore 4 4.71%
Dallas - Robidas, Goligoski, Daley, Larsen, Fistric, Dillon 6 7.06%
Detroit - Kronwall, White, Ericsson, Quincey, Colaiacovo, Smith 8 9.41%
Edmonton - Smid, Petry, N. Schultz, Whitney, J. Schultz, Sutton 3 3.53%
Florida - Campbell, Kulikov, Weaver, Kuba, Gudbranson, Jovanovski 6 7.06%
Minnesota - Suter, Gilbert, Spurgeon, Scandella, Prosser, Falk 2 2.35%
Montreal - Subban, Gorges, Markov, Emelin, Kaberle, Bouillon 10 11.76%
Nashville - Weber, Klein, Josi, Gill, Hannan, Ellis 15 17.65%
New Jersey - Salvador, Zidlicky, Greene, Tallinder, Larsson, Volchenkov 8 9.41%
NY Islanders - Streit, Hamonic, MacDonald, Carkner, Donovan, Wishart 3 3.53%
Ottawa - Karlsson, Phillips, Methot, Gonchar, Lundin, Borowiecki 5 5.88%
Philadelphia - Coburn, Timonen, Grossmann, Meszaros, Schenn, Bourdon 5 5.88%
Pittsburgh - Letang, Orpik, Martin, Niskanen, Despres, Engelland 7 8.24%
Tampa Bay - Brewer, Hedman, Carle, Salo, Lee, Bergeron 3 3.53%
Toronto - Phaneuf, Gunnarsson, Gardiner, Liles, Komisarek, Franson 6 7.06%
Washington - Carlson, Alzner, Green, Hamrlik, Orlov, J. Schultz 27 31.76%
Winnipeg - Enstrom, Bogosian, Byfuglien, Hainsey, M. Stuart, Clitsome 24 28.24%
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01-08-2013, 02:45 AM
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Team Defencemen Rankings #9

#1 - NY Rangers - Girardi, McDonagh, Staal, Del Zotto, Stralman, Bickell
#2 - Los Angeles - Doughty, Mitchell, Scuderi, Voynov, Greene, Martinez
#3 - St. Louis - Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Jackman, Polak, Cole, Russell
#4 - Vancouver - Edler, Hamhuis, Bieksa, Garrison, Tanev, Ballard
#5 - Boston - Chara, Seidenberg, Boychuk, Ference, Hamilton, McQuaid
#6 - Phoenix - Yandle, Ekman-Larsson, Klesla, Michalek, Morris, Schlemko
#7 - San Jose - Boyle, Vlasic, Burns, B. Stuart, Demers, Murray
#8 - Chicago - Keith, Seabrook, Leddy, Oduya, Hjalmarsson, Rozsival

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I think this is where Winnipeg fits in. The list dosen't even include Trouba who will be a beast one day.

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The Peg then NSH.

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New Jersey. Criminally underrated and this is coming from a Rangers fan.

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Meant to go with NJ and Colorado.

Did not think that would work.

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Mark Fayne needs to be somewhere on the New Jersey list, I'd argue he's our 3rd best defenseman.

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How the hell is Winnipeg leading this?

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New Jersey. Like the Rangers fan up there said, very underrated. 7 quality NHL defenseman all of which are top-four defenders. May lack the all-star others have, but are still very good.

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Mark Fayne needs to be somewhere on the New Jersey list, I'd argue he's our 3rd best defenseman.
Who should I remove from the list? I think Volchenkov may be one of the weaker ones on D, but can't really see NJ sitting him out since he has such a hefty contract. NjDevsRR told me to put Tallinder in and take out one of Larsson or Fayne.

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How the hell is Winnipeg leading this?
*Byfuglien, Enstrom and Bogosian were all within top 30 for 5v5 scoring rates (5, 19 and 8) of defensemen who weren't sheltered (>0.00 RelCorsi).

*From the same list Byfuglien and Enstrom were in top 5 for RelCorsi ahead of Chara (#4), Karlsson (#5) and Weber (#6).

*Byfuglien, Enstrom and Bogosian were all within top 50 for 5v4 scoring rates (6, 29 and 48) of defensemen who had regular PP time (>2.0 TOI/60).

*Hainsey did well as a #4 in shutdown role with Bogo... when paired together 0.609 GF% (goals for when on ice/total goals when on ice), which is pretty nice for shutdown pairing.

*Stuart brings truculence... but once you get to the bottom pairing it doesn't mater as much anyways

*Clitsome (per icetime) is a statistical match to Greene who are tied for 52 and 53 highest goal rate at even strength


Way I look at it, for even strength that's two top 15 guys, one top 30, two top 100 and one...yaaaa well he's an NHLer who at least brings grit... out of ~220 regular defenceman... that's beating most of the pack

This doesn't prove they are the #9 Team Defencemen Ranking core... but I think it shows they deserve to be mentioned for it.
People just don't really know because they went from one town where no-one cares about hockey to a new town that no one outside cares about... that and all top4 members played ~60ish games due to injuries... so people don't see pretty boxcar stats.


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Who should I remove from the list? I think Volchenkov may be one of the weaker ones on D, but can't really see NJ sitting him out since he has such a hefty contract. NjDevsRR told me to put Tallinder in and take out one of Larsson or Fayne.
It's really hard to say.

I don't see the Devils sitting Volchenkov but the Devils defense is so close in terms of who is better. There really is no clear cut number 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6. 7 and 8, IMO, are well defined with Volchenkov and Harrold, respectively, but it's not saying anything bad about them.

Definitely Tallinder over Larsson and Fayne, not too sure about Fayne over Larsson or Volchenkov though.

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