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01-09-2013, 03:15 PM
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Alright the playoffs are currently going on right now but there's a lot of other stuff that needs to be done on my end and some things we should discuss before the next season starts.

1) Filling Vacant Teams: Currently need new GMs. I'll be filling those spots shortly, if not by today

2) Backup Goalie Checklist: Just ran through the stats. Every GM (with the exception of vacant teams) have complied with this rule. Good to see. Hopefully it succeeded in making the league a shade more realistic.

3) Franchise Player Clarification: We talked about this twice (one time being more civil than the other) but i'm still not sure where we stand. From what i remember, it seemed to be a fair compromise, to have every GM submit a list of 3 players and 1 prospect that are "Franchise Players" that cannot be traded. These players are a part of your teams core and future and will be the identity of your team. The ammendments to this rule were...

1) Not all teams have a franchise prospect or 3 players worthy of the "Franchise Tag". Which is understandable. These teams would be exempt from the rule

2) When a Franchise Player reaches a certain age, they can be traded to a contending team for a future's package.

Lets discuss this Franchise rule a little more before next season starts. What do you guys think?
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01-09-2013, 03:15 PM
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3) Franchise Player Clarification: We talked about this twice (one time being more civil than the other) but i'm still not sure where we stand. From what i remember, it seemed to be a fair compromise, to have every GM submit a list of 3 players and 1 prospect that are "Franchise Players" that cannot be traded. These players are a part of your teams core and future and will be the identity of your team. The ammendments to this rule were...

1) Not all teams have a franchise prospect or 3 players worthy of the "Franchise Tag". Which is understandable. These teams would be exempt from the rule

2) When a Franchise Player reaches a certain age, they can be traded to a contending team for a future's package.

Lets discuss this Franchise rule a little more before next season starts. What do you guys think?
I think this may have been discussed at some point that not only age can dictate when a franchise player can be traded, but also if a team has missed the playoffs for a number of years and would realistically be in a rebuilding mode (i.e. Rick Nash), or if a player is in a contract year and there are doubts about resigning him (i.e. Ilya Kovalchuk in Atlanta). So hypothertically if LA or Pittsburgh wants to trade one of their stars because this group of players hasn't worked for them, or if Chicago trades Kane in a contract year because there are doubts about being able to resign both him and Toews, then I think it should be an option. The trades can be reviewed and scrutinized for sure, but I think it should be a possibility.

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01-09-2013, 03:25 PM
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Feel bad for whoever takes over still can't believe Larsson was traded away for that package!

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I think this may have been discussed at some point that not only age can dictate when a franchise player can be traded, but also if a team has missed the playoffs for a number of years and would realistically be in a rebuilding mode (i.e. Rick Nash), or if a player is in a contract year and there are doubts about resigning him (i.e. Ilya Kovalchuk in Atlanta). So hypothertically if LA or Pittsburgh wants to trade one of their stars because this group of players hasn't worked for them, or if Chicago trades Kane in a contract year because there are doubts about being able to resign both him and Toews, then I think it should be an option. The trades can be reviewed and scrutinized for sure, but I think it should be a possibility.
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01-09-2013, 03:29 PM
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So...age, free agency, and 3 years of lack of playoffs circumvents the franchise rule? I'm ok with that. Ill be needing every GM to submit a list of 3 players and 1 prospect BEFORE the season is over. No trades can will be accepted until I have everyone's list

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01-09-2013, 03:39 PM
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So...age, free agency, and 3 years of lack of playoffs circumvents the franchise rule? I'm ok with that. Ill be needing every GM to submit a list of 3 players and 1 prospect BEFORE the season is over. No trades can will be accepted until I have everyone's list
That seems fair.

I'll dig up my list from somewhere.


M. Gaborik
R. McDonagh
H. Lundquist

Can we wait on the prospects til after the progression / draft? I think I listed Kreider before, but I've got a pretty nice defensive prospect, and depending on what happens, I might value him more highly.


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01-09-2013, 03:42 PM
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I really don't want Giroux listed as my franchise forward, that isn't to make it easier to trade him, it's really solely on the fact that I value Wilson and Marchand above him, in terms of gameplay anyways!

I would easily move him before I would want to move those two, but I'm sure I'll be forced to stick him on that list!

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01-09-2013, 03:47 PM
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I really don't want Giroux listed as my franchise forward, that isn't to make it easier to trade him, it's really solely on the fact that I value Wilson and Marchand above him, in terms of gameplay anyways!

I would easily move him before I would want to move those two, but I'm sure I'll be forced to stick him on that list!
Any player above a 87 ovr and is under 25/26 is a franchise player IMO you cant just not say hes not the face of the organization when he was just on the cover, but thats just my opinion lol

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01-09-2013, 03:54 PM
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Any player above a 87 ovr and is under 25/26 is a franchise player IMO you cant just not say hes not the face of the organization when he was just on the cover, but thats just my opinion lol
Just stating my opinion! I don't really care whether he's my franchise player or not, I will still trade him before I trade those other two.

Maybe one day you'll have a franchise player too!

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01-09-2013, 03:57 PM
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Just stating my opinion! I don't really care whether he's my franchise player or not, I will still trade him before I trade those other two.

Maybe one day you'll have a franchise player too!
Mason is my franchise player haha it just really sucks, when I picked columbus I had visions of Murray and shinkaruk being my franchise players by now...

I just named
Mason
Johansen
Moore
as my franchise players and one of Murray or Shinkaruk to be my franchise prospect...



btw you dont need a goalie do you?! Bobrovsky is on the block, you know you want him back in philly! 26yrs old, 85 overall!

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01-09-2013, 04:08 PM
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Mason is my franchise player haha it just really sucks, when I picked columbus I had visions of Murray and shinkaruk being my franchise players by now...

I just named
Mason
Johansen
Moore
as my franchise players and one of Murray or Shinkaruk to be my franchise prospect...



btw you dont need a goalie do you?! Bobrovsky is on the block, you know you want him back in philly! 26yrs old, 85 overall!
I will take him.



Seriously though.

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01-09-2013, 04:17 PM
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I will take him.



Seriously though.
So its settled, ill make bobby my franchise player, and then we'll do Giroux for Bobrovsky straight up!?

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01-09-2013, 04:18 PM
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So its settled, ill make bobby my franchise player, and then we'll do Giroux for Bobrovsky straight up!?
Well, Bobrovsky has never been on an NHL cover, I feel it's only fair that you add a 3rd round pick.

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01-09-2013, 04:29 PM
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franchise players

Crosby
Eriksson (kikuts replaces him if he jumps)
Letang

prospect

Kikuts for now, if he jumps then whoever I pick in the draft 1st, 3rd or 4th overall.

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01-09-2013, 04:31 PM
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What did we say, you can change one of the players every 2 years?

The prospect, I guess, needs to be more flexible to accommodate graduations, right?

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01-09-2013, 04:55 PM
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Duchene
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prospect: pickard for now

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01-09-2013, 05:01 PM
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Pacioretty
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01-09-2013, 05:03 PM
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Steven Stamkos
Paul Stastny
Matt Carle
Prospect: MacKinnon

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Alright a bunch of new GMs to the league as well as some other GMs switching teams.

are now being ran by TheFadedLine (old SJ GM)
HughJazzdog
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potentially available

I'll also be needing a complete list of 3 franchise players and 1 franchise prospect from every GM. I'll be including this information in the trade thread somewhere.

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01-10-2013, 11:12 AM
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Alright a bunch of new GMs to the league as well as some other GMs switching teams.

are now being ran by TheFadedLine (old SJ GM)
HughJazzdog Big time scrub, hope you don't quit this league as many times as our EASHL team!
HockeyPrince23 Welcome!
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I'll also be needing a complete list of 3 franchise players and 1 franchise prospect from every GM. I'll be including this information in the trade thread somewhere.
Welcome to the league, ladies!

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01-10-2013, 11:45 AM
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01-10-2013, 12:00 PM
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Giroux
Giroux
Giroux

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01-10-2013, 12:02 PM
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Giroux is a franchise player man. Automatically, the same way that Stamkos, Crosby, and Ovie are

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Ryan Miller
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