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01-10-2013, 11:02 AM
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EDM intersted in MDZ

As per Eklund, EDM is interested in MDZ.
MDZ had a very good year last year but the year before was in the minors, you have to worry about one good year as many hockey players had a good year never to repeat it again.

Is MDZ the type of dman EDM needs, I don't think so I think they need a big rugged dman.

What do you think and if so what would it take, and remember Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yak and Schultz are untouchable?

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Then, so is MDZ....

That was easy!

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Did the rumor say that they were untouchable?

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Not going to get someone like Mdz and have 6 untouchables.

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Does Edmonton even have anything NYR wants outside of their big 4? Rangers are set in net, on D, and their top-6. Dunno much about their bottom 6.

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Then, so is MDZ....

That was easy!
Are you seriously saying that MDZ (especially on a RFA contract) is worth at least one of Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yak or Schultz?

Don't think Ranger fans would even say that. The guy was lights out last year but as the OP mentioned, consistency isn't there yet.

I expect MDZ to sign for $3-$3.5 million on a short term deal. Rangers won't trade him because of said consistency problems. No-one knows how good he can be yet so his value will not be that high. They'll hang on to him for another 2 years and see how he does.

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As per Eklund, EDM is interested in MDZ.
MDZ had a very good year last year but the year before was in the minors, you have to worry about one good year as many hockey players had a good year never to repeat it again.

Is MDZ the type of dman EDM needs, I don't think so I think they need a big rugged dman.

What do you think and if so what would it take, and remember Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yak and Schultz are untouchable?
So if they are all untouchable who are you going to offer? Gagner?

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Not going to get someone like Mdz and have 6 untouchables.
Thank you.

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Does Edmonton even have anything NYR wants outside of their big 4? Rangers are set in net, on D, and their top-6. Dunno much about their bottom 6.
Rangers can definitely use another quality defenseman, they basically played with four late in the playoffs.

Would kind of defeat the purpose of this trade though..

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As per Eklund, EDM is interested in MDZ.
MDZ had a very good year last year but the year before was in the minors, you have to worry about one good year as many hockey players had a good year never to repeat it again.

Is MDZ the type of dman EDM needs, I don't think so I think they need a big rugged dman.

What do you think and if so what would it take, and remember Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yak and Schultz are untouchable?
Actually MDZ has had 2 good years for the Rangers.

His rookie year he had 37 points, he had his sophmore slump, most do. Followed that up with a superb 2011-12 season.

The article says the Oilers would look to offer players on Entry Level Contracts.

Who might that be?

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Does Edmonton even have anything NYR wants outside of their big 4? Rangers are set in net, on D, and their top-6. Dunno much about their bottom 6.
Highly doubt it. Bottom six could maybe use an additional body, but certainly not at the expense of Del Zotto.

Rangers aren't a team that you can throw a bunch of spare pieces at and hope to get one of their up-and-coming talents.

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Are you seriously saying that MDZ (especially on a RFA contract) is worth at least one of Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yak or Schultz?

Don't think Ranger fans would even say that. The guy was lights out last year but as the OP mentioned, consistency isn't there yet.

I expect MDZ to sign for $3-$3.5 million on a short term deal. Rangers won't trade him because of said consistency problems. No-one knows how good he can be yet so his value will not be that high. They'll hang on to him for another 2 years and see how he does.
New York Rangers are legit contenders, they have no point in trading an important d-man unless they become a better hockey team. No point in trading for a downgrade, common sense.

That, and Schultz right now is a great AHL d-man, where Del Zotto is a great NHL D-man. Could easily make the case Rangers need MDZ more than another elite winger, as well.

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You can't say that MDZ is worth on of Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yak or Schultz please.

I see EDM having Schultz, Whitney and Petry as puck movers, do they need another player that will cost a min of 4mil per year.

What can you tell me about his defensive side of the puck?

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Although I don't think MDZ is worth any of your untouchables straight up, there is a big drop off in value after those guys and I doubt anyone wants a return of a package of lesser players for MDZ

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In before " it would take Hall , Shultz , and a first ".

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Does Edmonton even have anything NYR wants outside of their big 4? Rangers are set in net, on D, and their top-6. Dunno much about their bottom 6.
The Rangers would be looking to improve their bottom six (a third line center?) and a vet bottom pairing #6 defenseman.

Regardless, the Rangers aren't trading MDZ to fill those wants (as they are not needs).

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So I guess this means that there's no way in hell that Edmonton is landing MDZ.

Sidenote: Why would Edmonton need a 5th PMD?

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I understand Oiler fans really don't want to trade any of those guys, but outside of that there is not a lot of pieces that will interest NY. Outside of those assets, it's a pitiful last place squad.

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You can't say that MDZ is worth on of Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yak or Schultz please.

I see EDM having Schultz, Whitney and Petry as puck movers, do they need another player that will cost a min of 4mil per year.

What can you tell me about his defensive side of the puck?
Nobody is saying that he's worth one of those guys. People are saying that outside of those guys, there's not a lot that would get you MDZ.

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Are you seriously saying that MDZ (especially on a RFA contract) is worth at least one of Hall, Eberle, RNH, Yak or Schultz?
He's obviously not worth as much as them (well maybe Schultz, but there's no reason for either team to take that gamble and I don't want to get into an MDZ vs Schultz debate).

But he's also worth more than Gagner + 2nd rounder or Hemsky + 4th rounder, or whatever the typical. Edmontons problem when it comes to trades is that they're very top heavy roster-wise. Not a lot of their other players carry much value if youre targetting solid young players on other teams. Smid has some value, but D is also Edmontons weak spot so it makes no sense.

But Gagner, Hemsky, MP, etc. Don't have a ton of value.

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I guess you could do something around a young forward, but he would have to come cheap, so that pretty much rules out anyone outside the big four, as the only reason for trading MDZ would be cap space. And Edmonton wouldn't trade one of them for MDZ even if it was MDZ+, right? NYR has little need for prospects and can't take on alot of salary so I don't think a deal gets done w/o Schultz, Nuge, Hall, Eberle or Yakupov.

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Mdz had a pretty good ilfirst year but needed to work on his defense, last year he got sent back down because of said defense and this year he's back after working on it in the minors.

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I'm a little confused...but at the top of my head I can't make sense as of why Edmonton would trade to MDZ? IMO they'd be looking for a more veteran D man.

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Mdz had a pretty good ilfirst year but needed to work on his defense, last year he got sent back down because of said defense and this year he's back after working on it in the minors.
Actually it was two years ago he was sent to Hartford. Last year he showed huge improvement in his defensive game without losing any of his offensive potency.

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Yakupov for MDZ+?

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