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01-10-2013, 12:47 PM
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Need to know more about how the process would work? Are there multiple rounds?...choose a position, positions are assigned, second round for those that didn't get their first choice. Or would we rank our top 3? Or something else?
apparently VI and Spitfire decided they are having a lottery, so I guess it's too late.

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WOW the draft order was being released live! Missed that great moment

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apparently VI and Spitfire decided they are having a lottery, so I guess it's too late.
no, i simply PM'd spitfire11 to do what he has done many time in the past after we have reached the number of teams wanted (32 was what several GMs said).

then you TDMM suddenly objected to it after i had already announced i'd pm'd him... then he showed up to do it and at least three gms eagerly have awaited it

nix it if you want - you have the mod power to control the board

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Talking about making hasty decisions. Who decided that we would draw the lottery before all the rules were agreed upon? Who decided we were doing a draw this time? I guess it's the people who are online the more often that decide about those rules ... Another swell start to the ATD!

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Even I had no idea it was going on live.

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no, i simply PM'd spitfire11 to do what he has done many time in the past after we have reached the number of teams wanted (32 was what several GMs said).

then you TDMM suddenly objected to it after i had already announced i'd pm'd him... then he showed up to do it and at least three gms eagerly have awaited it

nix it if you want - you have the mod power to control the board
Unlike certain other posters, I don't want to dictate the rules of the board myself.

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01-10-2013, 12:53 PM
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Talking about making hasty decisions. Who decided that we would draw the lottery before all the rules were agreed upon? Who decided we were doing a draw this time? I guess it's the people who are online the more often that decide about those rules ... Another swell start to the ATD!
three GMs asked for it and it is usually the next step in the procedure

simply lock it/mod it or whatever and POLL a vote if you want TDMM!!

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01-10-2013, 12:53 PM
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Talking about making hasty decisions. Who decided that we would draw the lottery before all the rules were agreed upon? Who decided we were doing a draw this time? I guess it's the people who are online the more often that decide about those rules ... Another swell start to the ATD!
What does it matter EB? We wont start until the rules are finalized.

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01-10-2013, 12:55 PM
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three GMs asked for it and it is usually the next step in the procedure

simply lock it/mod it or whatever and POLL a vote if you want TDMM!!
Yes, make a poll as to whether we want to keep an order after it was already released. No conflict of interest there, at all.

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01-10-2013, 12:56 PM
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Start a POLL thread to go with the precedent habit of spitfire's drawn draft ranking OR TDMM"s idea of having everyone choose their draft order. That seems like the fair way to meet his concerns.

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If there is still contention here over how to pick the order for this draft let's take it to a poll or to pm and get the opinions of all GM's. If the majority pick choosing names at random we'll run another lottery on the weekend. If the majority chooses the other method then so be it.

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Yes, make a poll as to whether we want to keep an order after it was already released. No conflict of interest there, at all.
So why didn't you lock the thread/mod it when it started??? you were here. geez...

Everything will run through TDMM from now on. (What an unanticipated issue!!! This objection has never happened before.)

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What does it matter EB? We wont start until the rules are finalized.
People can sway for different rules depending on their position in the draft. It's not a big deal, but it would of been nice that those decisions would of been made as a group, and not by a few posters that were online when the 32nd team registered.

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01-10-2013, 12:59 PM
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If there is still contention here over how to pick the order for this draft let's take it to a poll or to pm and get the opinions of all GM's. If the majority pick choosing names at random we'll run another lottery on the weekend. If the majority chooses the other method then so be it.

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01-10-2013, 01:00 PM
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apparently VI and Spitfire decided they are having a lottery, so I guess it's too late.
Just so people know, I'm not involved in this draft at all...was just asked to draw a random order and did.

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01-10-2013, 01:02 PM
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I have an objection.........

Seems the Mercurys don't have any pick at all?

Might make things a little tougher than it has to be? haha

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So, if you like your position, you will agree with this order. If you don't like your position, you will vote to change? When TDMM was talking about conflict of interest, there you have it. Unfortunately, it is too late to change the draft position. I would believe this will be the order for the 2014 ATD draft.

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01-10-2013, 01:05 PM
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Just so people know, I'm not involved in this draft at all...was just asked to draw a random order and did.
Don't worry, we know you are just doing what VI asked you to. And we appreciate the effort. It's just a few days earlier than basically everyone expected.

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01-10-2013, 01:06 PM
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I have an objection.........

Seems the Mercurys don't have any pick at all?

Might make things a little tougher than it has to be? haha
the PM was sent yesterday when God Made Me was the Teepees, but he changed it today to co-GM with you... so Teepee's name spot would be Mercurys I guess (if that order is used, if not declared invalid/mod deleted).

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Ya it is far too late to change anything now. Not a random draw can be brought up for next years draft. We can't release the results and then have a vote...

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01-10-2013, 01:10 PM
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Don't worry, we know you are just doing what VI asked you to. And we appreciate the effort. It's just a few days earlier than basically everyone expected.
basically everyone? a couple of GMs were asking for the draft order, and since we reached 32 teams there were no anticipated problems (based on precedent). sorry, hadn't realized the process has changed lately. Your idea TDMM you stated AFTER spitfire11 was PM'd... simply MOD delete it then... declare it undemocratic. this ain't no republic. to hell with tradition! no *** bad guy brushing k?

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the PM was sent yesterday when God Made Me was the Teepees, but he changed it today to co-GM with you... so Teepee's name spot would be Mercurys I guess (if that order is used, if not declared invalid/mod deleted).
We are cool with the 27th spot.

Willing to trade, its close to bottom of the order, very desirable

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01-10-2013, 01:17 PM
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I think everyone can agree that there were unresolved issues when the lottery took place. We should vote on the pick your own spot issue, then do a 2nd lottery regardless of what the outcome is, so the recently picked draft positions have no effect on a GM's vote.

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01-10-2013, 01:23 PM
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Ya it is far too late to change anything now. Not a random draw can be brought up for next years draft. We can't release the results and then have a vote...
easy for the guy picking #2 to say.

But I agree, whats done is done - we have our order just leave it.

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01-10-2013, 01:31 PM
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I think everyone can agree that there were unresolved issues when the lottery took place. We should vote on the pick your own spot issue, then do a 2nd lottery regardless of what the outcome is, so the recently picked draft positions have no effect on a GM's vote.
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So, if you like your position, you will agree with this order. If you don't like your position, you will vote to change? When TDMM was talking about conflict of interest, there you have it. Unfortunately, it is too late to change the draft position. I would believe this will be the order for the 2014 ATD draft.
You both make good points.

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