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01-09-2013, 11:32 PM
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After reading up and watching highlights games and multiple sources my points are as follows:

-TT is better at skating what really counts at the NHL level, at age 17 he was still better than Gaudreau

-Teravainen plays with Men in an elite league, Johnny plays against kids who will rarely get drafted and are underdeveloped. [So your saying Teravainen gets the edge here cause he was born in Europe?]

-Teravainen was drafted because of his offensive capabilities and skating, mid first round, Gaudreau was passed by how many selections (I will let you kids figure that out again) [Seriously, time and time, again draft position means very little after the draft]

-The main reason Gaudreau was passed was his skating in comparison to his size was just fair. In order to be relevant in the NHL at 5'7 you have to be DYNAMIC AND AGILE OR FLEXIBLE like one Teravainen. [Gaudreau's only issue skating is his first step, and acceleration. He as dynamic agility, and control over his edges. And his top speed is fine.]



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Btw, that was really lame ^^^
I think Gaudreau has an edge on Teravainen with his elite hockey IQ. As well as Stick skills. Neither by very much. But TT has the edge in skating, as he does have better acceleration, and good agility.

In the end i'd still trade Gaudreau for TT right now, but that could change when Gaudreau goes pro, and he is still able to produce.

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Oh SO SORRY flames fans. Are you guys nit picking because I put 5th instead of 4th round pick?????



Then Imagine the comparison between 4th and 1st.
That is why you all make 0 sense...get all pissy about that minor detail yet can't realize why everyone thinks TT's draft position makes sense.



After reading up and watching highlights games and multiple sources my points are as follows:

-TT is better at skating what really counts at the NHL level, at age 17 he was still better than Gaudreau
-Teravainen plays with Men in an elite league, Johnny plays against kids who will rarely get drafted and are underdeveloped.
-Teravainen was drafted because of his offensive capabilities and skating, mid first round, Gaudreau was passed by how many selections (I will let you kids figure that out again)
-The main reason Gaudreau was passed was his skating in comparison to his size was just fair. In order to be relevant in the NHL at 5'7 you have to be DYNAMIC AND AGILE OR FLEXIBLE like one Teravainen.


SOLID POINTS NO BRTRIAD????????????

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I....what?
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Gaudreau=Kyle Calder

TT-SKY IS THE LIMIT, YOLO
Sorry, I haven't really read through most of DTMB's posts.. but this made me laugh.

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01-10-2013, 03:15 AM
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I dare you to take a peek into the Barkov thread, ran into it yesterday and saw posts of that were of the charts. "Calder locked" "Sundin or Jagr upside" "Multiple Selke winner" "90 point expectations"

Finland and their prospects. A dozen second liners from NHL enters the league and oll of the sudden the finnish league is the second best in the world.
Now you're shooting down your reputation here.

Quote me an post which says that Barkov is calder locked or Jagr upside, locked for multiple selkes or locked for 90 points.

I didn't read any post which states that it is locked up. You're making yourself look stupid. These forums are made for speculation. We have speculated about his playing style(Sundin, Jagr), body type(Jagr). We have speculated about his upside which is 70-90 points in the season at his prime with selke calibre of defense(His upside is being perennial selke candidate with 70-90points and maybe even more).

If you disagree i want to hear your points and opinions why you disagree? Or are you one of the posters who claims things without any base and after that runs away?


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Oh SO SORRY flames fans. Are you guys nit picking because I put 5th instead of 4th round pick?????



Then Imagine the comparison between 4th and 1st.
That is why you all make 0 sense...get all pissy about that minor detail yet can't realize why everyone thinks TT's draft position makes sense.

No, actually it was actually you just using that argument that made it laughable.

Your arguments are bad and you should feel bad.

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01-10-2013, 09:21 AM
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No, actually it was actually you just using that argument that made it laughable.

Your arguments are bad and you should feel bad.
I will not feel bad, but your vocabulary is bad. You use bad a lot. This is bad.

My points were valid. They aren't comparable.

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Oh SO SORRY flames fans. Are you guys nit picking because I put 5th instead of 4th round pick?????
It's more mocking because nearly every arguement you made included draft position and you couldn't get that right xD.

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Then Imagine the comparison between 4th and 1st.
Oh look you immediately went back to it

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-TT is better at skating what really counts at the NHL level, at age 17 he was still better than Gaudreau
No one is saying Johnny is a better/more explosive skater than Teravainen. They play different styles and Tera's is more reliant on his skating ability which will probably help him transition easier to the NHL level.

"Still better" at skating? or did you mean in general?

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-Teravainen plays with Men in an elite league, Johnny plays against kids who will rarely get drafted and are underdeveloped.
JG plays in the NCAA Div 1 not the CHL. Players are above 18 and many of the top players are 23-24 or the top younger ones are drafted NHL prospects.
Part of going the NCAA route is more time can be spent on weight-training with the condensed schedule. Size is not something the league lacks.

The American prospect is developing in the top American development league and the Finnish player developing in the Finnish pro league. This wasn't because the Finnish player was so good that they picked him over JG so you can't rank them on that alone. JG's production doubles TTs and sits at the top of his league what more would you ask Johnny to do to put them even here?

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-Teravainen was drafted because of his offensive capabilities and skating, mid first round, Gaudreau was passed by how many selections (I will let you kids figure that out again)
Again draft position what does that mean now? nothing picks bloom picks bust drafting is best guess at this moment in time.

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-The main reason Gaudreau was passed was his skating in comparison to his size was just fair. In order to be relevant in the NHL at 5'7 you have to be DYNAMIC AND AGILE OR FLEXIBLE like one Teravainen.
Here you go again with draft position (someone want to count your lines with it in this thread?)

Gaudreau was 135lbs when he was drafted.
Gaudreau was ~5'6" (tied with Rocco) the shortest player taken in his draft
Gaudreau does not explode away from people north-south like Rocco (who he gets compared to often)

His skating is great, he gains the zone easy, he's strong enough to make tight plays on defenders in the NCAA, he moves laterally as well as any propect at the WJC, and he is very hard to hit.

Yes Teravainen is a great skater and the better of the two; but JGs skating does not look out of place among NHL prospects and is not going to keep him out of pro hockey.


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SOLID POINTS NO BRTRIAD????????????
I AM REPRESENTING THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS AND I SUPPORT THIS MESSAGE.
I'm going to guess you don't rep the org or most hawks fans

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-Teravainen was drafted because of his offensive capabilities and skating, mid first round, Gaudreau was passed by how many selections (I will let you kids figure that out again)
Are you actually trying to use draft position as a reason why TT will be better?


Patrik Stefan went 1st overall and scored 188 points in the NHL, Luc Robitaille went 171st overall and scored almost 1400 points.

Jason Bonsignore went 4th overall and had a total of 16 points in the NHL. Daniel Alfredsson went 133rd overall in the same draft.

Borris Valabik with 10th overall in the 2004 draft and has 7 points in the NHL. Alex Edler went 91st overall in the same draft.

Draft position doesn't mean ****.

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I will not feel bad, but your vocabulary is bad. You use bad a lot. This is bad.

My points were valid. They aren't comparable.
Show me some scouts who have TT ranked higher than JG.

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Are you actually trying to use draft position as a reason why TT will be better?


Patrik Stefan went 1st overall and scored 188 points in the NHL, Luc Robitaille went 171st overall and scored almost 1400 points.

Jason Bonsignore went 4th overall and had a total of 16 points in the NHL. Daniel Alfredsson went 133rd overall in the same draft.

Borris Valabik with 10th overall in the 2004 draft and has 7 points in the NHL. Alex Edler went 91st overall in the same draft.

Draft position doesn't mean ****.
Don't waste your time. I already tried using a few examples like these (Backlund vs Benn)... It flew over his head. Logic and common sense are non existent to him.

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Show me some scouts who have TT ranked higher than JG.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NHL_Entry_Draft

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JG was a 2011 pick so not the same thing at all I have shown 1 source who has JG ahead of TT.

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Two separate drafts. No scout ranked TT higher.

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Just to bring some opinion into this thread from people who really have a clue, here's the best players from each team as selected by the coaches.

http://stats.worldjunior2013.com/Hyd...00_85J_1_0.pdf

No Teravainen.

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Just to bring some opinion into this thread from people who really have a clue, here's the best players from each team as selected by the coaches.

http://stats.worldjunior2013.com/Hyd...00_85J_1_0.pdf

No Teravainen.
One tournament. I guess MacKinnon shouldn't be a top 10 pick then.

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One tournament. I guess MacKinnon shouldn't be a top 10 pick then.
His isn't basing his opinion on that tournament but if TT had elite everything as DontToewzMeBro said he probably should have made it into the top 3 on his team.

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Just to bring some opinion into this thread from people who really have a clue, here's the best players from each team as selected by the coaches.

http://stats.worldjunior2013.com/Hyd...00_85J_1_0.pdf

No Teravainen.
This means almost nothing. I don't see Drouin on that list, nor do I see Barkov or MacKinnon or Lindholm. All who we know to be better than Gaudrau. Point is this tournament should be taken lighter than what these respected players do in a full season in their respective league.

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Just to bring some opinion into this thread from people who really have a clue, here's the best players from each team as selected by the coaches.

http://stats.worldjunior2013.com/Hyd...00_85J_1_0.pdf

No Teravainen.
In these types of lists coaches don't necessarily pick the players that are the best on paper, and they definately don't pick the ones they think have the most NHL potential. They pick the guys that have played the best in comparison to their own level and that have been hot during the tournament. Petteri Lindbohm for example is definately not better than Ristolainen or Määttä, nor is Granlund as good a prospect as Armia. And yet Lindbohm, Granlund and Pokka are on the list.

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Just to bring some opinion into this thread from people who really have a clue, here's the best players from each team as selected by the coaches.

http://stats.worldjunior2013.com/Hyd...00_85J_1_0.pdf

No Teravainen.
Since they were picked by coaches, any selection made by the Finnish coaches isn't going to win you any arguments.

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1.The biggest difference aside from Teuvo's already bigger size is the AGE DIFFERENCE--Teuvo is 13 months younger --enormous in the crucial development 18 to 19th year -means i) Teuvo could still grow in height -Gaudreau probably not; ii) Teuvo probably will have a bigger weight gap next year on what Gaudreau was at the WJHC this year --in other words he will likely even more bigger and stronger than Gaudreau was by WJHC time next year ...He ought to be a lot better than even Gaudreau was in impacting at next year's WJHC -that is IF the Hawks do not rush him to the NHL after this summer..

2. Small pip squeak players can do well in jrs and in the bigger EURO and NCAA rinks-but often this "type" fails to tranlate that in the smaller NA rinks against bigger tougher NHL'ers --so GAUDREAU has a huge mountain to conquer in that type of leap...Maybe he can ,maybe he can't translate it --especially as he is a winger ---TT therefore has advantage in that he probably will get bigger and stronger -especially as a just before the cutoff birthdate for his draft -a few more days and he would be in this coming years draft instead so he has lots of development expectation improvement from this alone---though he too has to adjust to smaller NA rinks and NA style play --BUT at least he can get more room off the boards play if he plays centre ..


3. Gaudreau--benefitted from the USA transition game style and while he could be a
great "one-timer" specialist on the PP-the concern would have to be his ES effectiveness in the pro game-ESPECIALLY with the CGY style of play (unless they change drastically) ...MAYBE in the EDM skating style he could thrive-but in the slower paced CGY style? It could be a bad fit..
TT's skill set should fit well with the Hawks' style of play and mesh well with their top 4 forwards (assuming they are all still there when he arrives in the nHL) -but IF he plays centre he must improve on faceoffs ..


In short-IF you asked which of the 2 the HAWKs would prefer-i think the answer is obvious...I think also the desperate need CGY has for centres -they too on that alone would prefer TT ...

In conclusion-I don't think you should compare them --different size,different position (likely), different projection potentials...TT should be preferred.

This is not to say Gaudreau cannot be a PP "one-timer" specialist and help CGY on that basis alone ---IF they can style a PP to get Gaudreau open for one-timers ffrom the circles a la Brett Hull -then he can"make it" as an NHL'er -but given his size he will probably be a huge liability in ES in the NHL strength game off the boards..
How much this effects the equation on him willdetermine if he has a long NHL careeer or will be just another ig shrimpy AHL "star" ..

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This means almost nothing. I don't see Drouin on that list, nor do I see Barkov or MacKinnon or Lindholm. All who we know to be better than Gaudrau. Point is this tournament should be taken lighter than what these respected players do in a full season in their respective league.

Exactly, I know Calgary is bad(terrible depth no centerman) us hawk fans were there before hoping PAVEL VOROBIEV would explode as a prospect.

I'm smart enough to know there will be various times 3-7th round picks that are better than 1st round picks, but in regards to Teravainen, this is not the case, he exploded past many prospects in a season for a reason, elite talent.All I'm saying is, TT was a better prospect raw at age 17 than Gaudreau is now, but that is my opinion. Jonny however an intriguing prospect, is still a longshot.


One tournament as a 19 year old and he is Patty Kane????Or St. Louis

As I said if lucky you got Kyle Calder or a Gionta who is missing 3-4 steps.

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The point of the post was to point out that Teravanien was not considered one of the best players on his team, let alone this tournament. If he was as good as represented he would have been a standout and an obvious pick by the coaches. Didn't happen.
Teravanien was a player I looked forward to seeing in the WJC. Frankly, of all the players I had expectations for, heading into this tournament, Teravanien was the second most disappointing player I watched (after Yakapov). I let Teravanien's draft position and hype build some unfair expectations he clearly could not live up to. I was expecting a dominant player and he was mostly a no-show (as were most of the Finns). Wasn't impressed and neither were the coaches.

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Teravainen finished with 11 points and was a catalyst on ther PP. He ha a good tourney, Barkov and the rest were less impressive.

Again you all ate basing a tourney of less then 10 games over an entire lifetime.

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The point of the post was to point out that Teravanien was not considered one of the best players on his team, let alone this tournament. If he was as good as represented he would have been a standout and an obvious pick by the coaches. Didn't happen.
Teravanien was a player I looked forward to seeing in the WJC. Frankly, of all the players I had expectations for, heading into this tournament, Teravanien was the second most disappointing player I watched (after Yakapov). I let Teravanien's draft position and hype build some unfair expectations he clearly could not live up to. I was expecting a dominant player and he was mostly a no-show (as were most of the Finns). Wasn't impressed and neither were the coaches.
Again, this tournament doesn't say anything about who's the better prospect. Elias Lindholm is the best Swedish prospect and he was not on the list either. Do you think that means Mikael Vikstrand is a better prospect?
Spoiler: it doesn't.

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1.The biggest difference aside from Teuvo's already bigger size is the AGE DIFFERENCE--Teuvo is 13 months younger --enormous in the crucial development 18 to 19th year -means i) Teuvo could still grow in height -Gaudreau probably not; ii) Teuvo probably will have a bigger weight gap next year on what Gaudreau was at the WJHC this year --in other words he will likely even more bigger and stronger than Gaudreau was by WJHC time next year ...He ought to be a lot better than even Gaudreau was in impacting at next year's WJHC -that is IF the Hawks do not rush him to the NHL after this summer..

2. Small pip squeak players can do well in jrs and in the bigger EURO and NCAA rinks-but often this "type" fails to tranlate that in the smaller NA rinks against bigger tougher NHL'ers --so GAUDREAU has a huge mountain to conquer in that type of leap...Maybe he can ,maybe he can't translate it --especially as he is a winger ---TT therefore has advantage in that he probably will get bigger and stronger -especially as a just before the cutoff birthdate for his draft -a few more days and he would be in this coming years draft instead so he has lots of development expectation improvement from this alone---though he too has to adjust to smaller NA rinks and NA style play --BUT at least he can get more room off the boards play if he plays centre ..


3. Gaudreau--benefitted from the USA transition game style and while he could be a
great "one-timer" specialist on the PP-the concern would have to be his ES effectiveness in the pro game-ESPECIALLY with the CGY style of play (unless they change drastically) ...MAYBE in the EDM skating style he could thrive-but in the slower paced CGY style? It could be a bad fit..
TT's skill set should fit well with the Hawks' style of play and mesh well with their top 4 forwards (assuming they are all still there when he arrives in the nHL) -but IF he plays centre he must improve on faceoffs ..


In short-IF you asked which of the 2 the HAWKs would prefer-i think the answer is obvious...I think also the desperate need CGY has for centres -they too on that alone would prefer TT ...

In conclusion-I don't think you should compare them --different size,different position (likely), different projection potentials...TT should be preferred.

This is not to say Gaudreau cannot be a PP "one-timer" specialist and help CGY on that basis alone ---IF they can style a PP to get Gaudreau open for one-timers ffrom the circles a la Brett Hull -then he can"make it" as an NHL'er -but given his size he will probably be a huge liability in ES in the NHL strength game off the boards..
How much this effects the equation on him willdetermine if he has a long NHL careeer or will be just another ig shrimpy AHL "star" ..
Quoted, as it's one of the more lucid posts ever by hf50, regardless of whether one agrees with its content.

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