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01-09-2013, 03:59 PM
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They can't buy out Hejda (or anyone) right now.



Pay him no mind.
As mouse 21 said.
Also, I'm hoping under the new CBA, it will allow for a buyout or two without negative affect on our cap going forward.

"Pay him no mind". Pretty disrespectful, but each to their own. Hope you and your family have a wonderful New Year.

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Whoa, LOL. I dislike Burke, but he knows how to build a hockey team, IMO. He should've stayed with Anaheim.
I am not a fan of Burke also but according to David Pagnotta from the
4thperiod.com : “Last season, Burke turned down trading Grabovski to Chicago for a 1st & prospect, and rejected a 1st RD pick for MacArthur from another team”

If...and I say ''IF'' those rumours are true, we know what to expect if one day, we trade Stastny.

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I am not a fan of Burke also but according to David Pagnotta from the
4thperiod.com : “Last season, Burke turned down trading Grabovski to Chicago for a 1st & prospect, and rejected a 1st RD pick for MacArthur from another team”

If...and I say ''IF'' those rumours are true, we know what to expect if one day, we trade Stastny.
But we already know...Bozak and a 2nd.

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01-10-2013, 12:10 AM
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Whoa, LOL. I dislike Burke, but he knows how to build a hockey team, IMO. He should've stayed with Anaheim.
Does he? I don't think that's a given. In his two stints as GM prior to the Toronto job, he inherited clubs that both had decent pieces on the roster and in the system. He deserves credit for the big moves he DID make to vastly improve those rosters (the Sedins in Vancouver and Niedermayer/Pronger in Anaheim were probably his best moves) he did not "build" those teams.

He was given the authority and the money to do as he pleased in Toronto, and most importantly, he was given the biggest spotlight in the hockey world. And he promptly screwed it all up. I'm still baffled as to why he didn't take a more patient approach...it's possible he's just not capable of it, or he grossly underestimated just how badly the Leafs had been mismanaged prior to his arrival. Oh, and he promptly made the same exact same mistakes that ultimately ended his tenure in Vancouver--he stayed loyal to a lousy coach and saddled the team with unreliable goaltending.

He bailed from Anaheim at the right time, and I don't blame him for doing so. Samueli was being indicted, the money was drying up, and things were going south in a hurry.

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01-10-2013, 11:47 AM
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As mouse 21 said.
Also, I'm hoping under the new CBA, it will allow for a buyout or two without negative affect on our cap going forward.

"Pay him no mind". Pretty disrespectful, but each to their own. Hope you and your family have a wonderful New Year.
Leave my family out of this ''mate''.

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01-10-2013, 11:58 AM
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I am not a fan of Burke also but according to David Pagnotta from the
4thperiod.com : “Last season, Burke turned down trading Grabovski to Chicago for a 1st & prospect, and rejected a 1st RD pick for MacArthur from another team”

If...and I say ''IF'' those rumours are true, we know what to expect if one day, we trade Stastny.
Both of those dont seem as appealing as you would think, I bet those werent high firsts and that prospect from CHI wouldnt have been Saad I bet. OTOH he could have packaged everthing together to get another top 10 pick.

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01-10-2013, 01:03 PM
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So I was thinking that if we had to trade ROR I'd like to something like this
COL trades
ROR
Jones
one prospect Elliot, Barrie, Siemens etc
one roster D who isn't EJ lets say Wilson
2nd 2013
1st 2014 if needed

for

PHX
Yandle
Hanzal
Korpikoski

The Avs give up the best player in ROR and I think he would work perfectly in Phoenix with their style of play

it gives the Avs a top 9 of
Lando-Stastny-Mcginn
Hejduk-Duchene-PA
Korpikoski-Hanzal-Downie
and a top pairing D of
Yandle-EJ

it also give Pheonix a top 6 of
Boedker - ROR - Doan
Vrbata - Vermette - Jones

and the D would still be good with
OEL - Michalek
Wilson - Klesla
Morris - Elliot/Gormly

I think it works for both teams pretty well

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01-10-2013, 01:07 PM
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Phoenix wouldn't do that.

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01-10-2013, 01:11 PM
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Phoenix wouldn't do that.
I actually think that ROR, Jones, Siemens, Wilson 1st+2nd would be quite enticing as long as ROR will ensure he signs a contract there.

If we say it like
RoR=Hanzal
Jones=Korpikoski
Yandle= Siemens+Wilson+1st+2nd

I don't think it's far off at all.

Of course obviously I'm not familiar with the needs of Phoenix, but a core of OEL, Siemens, Rundblad could be quite good on defense for years to come.

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01-10-2013, 01:12 PM
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So I was thinking that if we had to trade ROR I'd like to something like this
COL trades
ROR
Jones
one prospect Elliot, Barrie, Siemens etc
one roster D who isn't EJ lets say Wilson
2nd 2013
1st 2014 if needed

for

PHX
Yandle
Hanzal
Korpikoski

The Avs give up the best player in ROR and I think he would work perfectly in Phoenix with their style of play

it gives the Avs a top 9 of
Lando-Stastny-Mcginn
Hejduk-Duchene-PA
Korpikoski-Hanzal-Downie
and a top pairing D of
Yandle-EJ

it also give Pheonix a top 6 of
Boedker - ROR - Doan
Vrbata - Vermette - Jones

and the D would still be good with
OEL - Michalek
Wilson - Klesla
Morris - Elliot/Gormly

I think it works for both teams pretty well
Take out Korpikosky and Jones and its not terrible. The 1st in 2014 would be overpayment though. I think Oreilly + Elliott + 2nd for Yandle + Hanzal is a good deal for us. I don't know a whole lot about Hanzal but from what I hear he's very underrated so the Yotes likely wouldn't like this deal. Maybe Boyd Gordon instead of Hanzal if they value Hanzal more.

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I actually think that ROR, Jones, Siemens, Wilson 1st+2nd would be quite enticing as long as ROR will ensure he signs a contract there.

If we say it like
RoR=Hanzal
Jones=Korpikoski
Yandle= Siemens+Wilson+1st+2nd

I don't think it's far off at all.
You're right. The more I look at it, the better it looks for Phoenix.

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01-10-2013, 01:31 PM
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Speculation that the Canes could be looking to move Pitkanen and/or Mcbain.

Would be interested in both of those guys personally. Mcbain in particular still has top pairing potential IMO and would be a good offensive guy to pair with EJ.

Sounds like they're wanting picks/prospects for them to, which means we could keep our centers and still get our Dman.

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Take out Korpikosky and Jones and its not terrible. The 1st in 2014 would be overpayment though. I think Oreilly + Elliott + 2nd for Yandle + Hanzal is a good deal for us. I don't know a whole lot about Hanzal but from what I hear he's very underrated so the Yotes likely wouldn't like this deal. Maybe Boyd Gordon instead of Hanzal if they value Hanzal more.
Hanzal is a bigger O'Reilly without the insane offensive potential. Probably a 40-50 point prime season. Definitely too rich for Phoenix.

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Speculation that the Canes could be looking to move Pitkanen and/or Mcbain.

Would be interested in both of those guys personally. Mcbain in particular still has top pairing potential IMO and would be a good offensive guy to pair with EJ.

Sounds like they're wanting picks/prospects for them to, which means we could keep our centers and still get our Dman.
06 Draft! Quick somebody call Sherman!

I would love to bring in McBain, but I'm not sure if we would be willing to part with the pieces Carolina would be looking for. It would probably have to be a 1st + a good prospect.

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01-10-2013, 01:57 PM
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I actually think that ROR, Jones, Siemens, Wilson 1st+2nd would be quite enticing as long as ROR will ensure he signs a contract there.

If we say it like
RoR=Hanzal
Jones=Korpikoski
Yandle= Siemens+Wilson+1st+2nd

I don't think it's far off at all.

Of course obviously I'm not familiar with the needs of Phoenix, but a core of OEL, Siemens, Rundblad could be quite good on defense for years to come.
Colorado would never do it ... ROR has a lot more value for the Avs than Hanzal.

And I would never give Wilson, Siemens a 1rst (that can be a top 10) and a second for Yandle. Yandle is good but not that good.

This is what I call a one way trade

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Well I did put tge first as optional. Although I would severely doubt it would be top 10 if this were to happen

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Hanzal is a bigger O'Reilly without the insane offensive potential. Probably a 40-50 point prime season. Definitely too rich for Phoenix.
Yea I was fairly certain he was a lot like Oreilly, my only uncertainty was Offensive potential.

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If O'Reilly doesn't get signed and stays in Russia for the season or if he does get traded for a defenseman, what do you guys think about signing Arnott to be our #3C?

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Radar wasn't as dominant defensively as Hanzal. Better two way player, not as good defensively yet, and they're giving up Yandle for Siemens and a first as Wilson would be a bottom pairing guy for them. Phoenix would absolutely pass on that.

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If O'Reilly doesn't get signed and stays in Russia for the season or if he does get traded for a defenseman, what do you guys think about signing Arnott to be our #3C?
Ive always liked him, he'd provide some good veteran leadership, I'd give him a year

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If O'Reilly doesn't get signed and stays in Russia for the season or if he does get traded for a defenseman, what do you guys think about signing Arnott to be our #3C?
Anyone know about Langkow? Is he any good anymore?

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If O'Reilly doesn't get signed and stays in Russia for the season or if he does get traded for a defenseman, what do you guys think about signing Arnott to be our #3C?
I don't think he has enough left in the tank, in my opinion.

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If O'Reilly doesn't get signed and stays in Russia for the season or if he does get traded for a defenseman, what do you guys think about signing Arnott to be our #3C?
last i saw of him, he looked terribly slow. I doubt he could keep up with our teams pace. Have a feel if ROR, got moved maybe they'd give malone a chance to fill that role, before signing or trading for a 3c.

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Malone isn't ready to be 4C let alone 3C
If he plays with the Avs this year as a callup it'll probably be as a winger

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