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01-10-2013, 01:09 PM
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acquiring another top 4 dman is exactly what the Oilers need to do... It would push a guy like Peckham/Potter out of the top 6 and roll something like:
Whitney-J Shultz
MDZ-Shultz
Smid-Petry

That defence is greatly improved from having to play a guy like Peckham/Potter/Tuebert every night..

I wonder if something around MDZ+Redden coming to Oilers could help make the deal...

Oilers have the room this year and than can buy him out at the end of the season..

NYR are tight against the cap without Redden's cap hit, after this trade they can acquire some rentals to make a playoff push.
No, they certainly are not. Over $5M in available cap space (counting Redden & Drury but with Sauer on LTIR) with a 22-man team of healthy players at the beginning of the year - which also equals over $20M (prorated it is 4,125 times the annual cap hit at the trade deadline April 5.

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Just ran this myself. Please note that this includes The bonus cushion. This was also under the supposition that MDZ winds up with an annual hit of $2,5M (a number Brooks had mentioned previously). Anything higher than the $2,5M caphit figure for MDZ then lowers the cap space by corresponding amount. Lower raises the cap space by similar math. Here is what I got (same result as the first page on this thread):

FORWARDS
Rick Nash ($7.800m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Carl Hagelin ($0.875m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Taylor Pyatt ($1.550m)
Mike Rupp ($1.500m) / Jeff Halpern ($0.700m) / Arron Asham ($1.000m)
Micheal Haley ($0.600m)
Total caphit fwds - $36,366,667

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Anton Stralman ($1.700m) / Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.500m) / Steve Eminger ($0.750m)
Stu Bickel ($0.750m)
Total defensemen ($14.300m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
Total Goalies ($8.175m)

BUYOUTS
Chris Drury ($1.667m)

BURIED
Wade Redden ($5.600m)

LTIR
Michael Sauer ($1.250m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000
CAP PAYROLL: $72,958,334
TOTAL SALARY HIT: $67.358.334
BONUSES: $1,250,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster including Sauer plus Dead Money): $4,091,666
LTIR (Sauer): $1,250,000
DEAD MONEY (Redden/Drury): $7.266,667

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01-10-2013, 01:14 PM
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If Edmonton is going to give up significant pieces for a Dman, it has to be a complete #1 Dman. Wouldnt consider giving up any of Hall, RNH, Eberle, Yakupov, or Schultz for MDZ. If one of them has to go, it needs to be for a player like OEL in a package. Schultz is more iffy, but I want to see what he can do (plus, poor idea to trade away someone who chose your team, especially if you're the Oilers).

I can see why Rags fans think that's a no go. I also cant see why they think Edmonton would consider one of the big 4 for MDZ...

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01-10-2013, 01:19 PM
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The only thing the Oilers are missing on the blue line is a number 1 defenseman.If their able to land a number 1 defenseman,their defense will be set for many years to come.





?-J.Schultz
Smid-Petry
Klefbom-N.Schultz

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01-10-2013, 01:23 PM
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Am I the only one who notices "hockeybuzz" at the top....

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01-10-2013, 01:26 PM
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  1. The Rangers would probably just love to sign him and won't give him up for free
  2. The Oilers aren't going to give anything of substance to aquire him
  3. This is reported by HockeyBuzz

move along.

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01-10-2013, 01:28 PM
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Very curious to see what type of money MDZ will get. Around $4M per?

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What about an offer sheet? At what point would the Rangers not match.

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01-10-2013, 01:29 PM
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Why are these threads always so predictable?

post #1 want A player, but X Y and Z are untouchable

post #2 if X Y and Z are untouchable, so is A

post #3 LOLWTFBBQ, A is nowhere near the value of X Y or Z

Nobody said MDZ has the same value as Edmontons untouchables, but rather that he would be included in a package to get one.

Trades are rarely 1 for 1 swaps.
So by that logic. It's ok for the NYR to trade up and get one of the big 4. But it's not ok for Edmonton to trade up and get MDZ.

Edmonton has many good pieces that have value outside of the big 4.

Petry
Jones
MPS
1st 2013
Hemsky
Lander
Klefbom
Marincin
Musil

All these pieces have value to the right team. The problem is the NYR are set at forward and they want to win a cup right now. They have no interest in trading good D for bottom 6 guys and futures. This deal isn't happening.

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01-10-2013, 01:33 PM
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Petry and Hemsky
for
Redden , MDZ , Anisimov

Or some crap like that. Whatever. Its hockeybuzz, I can't imagine anything happening.

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01-10-2013, 01:36 PM
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Petry and Hemsky
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Redden , MDZ , Anisimov

Or some crap like that. Whatever. Its hockeybuzz, I can't imagine anything happening.
Anisimov was traded to Columbus.

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01-10-2013, 01:51 PM
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If you guys are going to make ridiculous offers, at least do a shred of research first.

Anisimov was traded to Columbus in the Nash deal.
Redden isn't an issue.
We have plenty of cap space for this season.

Next season is when it gets a little tight. Redden will be gone via amnesty buyout. Drury's buyout cap hit will be gone. But the cap will be dropping and McDonagh, Stepan and Hagelin will all be up for new contracts. Sauer will be as well, but may never play again. If he does, he won't be getting a raise.

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01-10-2013, 02:00 PM
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Petry and Hemsky
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Redden , MDZ , Anisimov

Or some crap like that. Whatever. Its hockeybuzz, I can't imagine anything happening.
since Anisimov isnt a Ranger anymore.. substitute him for Montoya

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I have two points I would like to make:

1) I have always liked DZ and I really like him after the hit he put on Chris Neil in PO's

2) How did Bernmeister miss this thread

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since Anisimov isnt a Ranger anymore.. substitute him for Montoya
I hope that's meant to be a joke.

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01-10-2013, 02:10 PM
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Schultz, Petry and Hall for Callahan, Miller and MDZ.

Hagelin-Richards-Nash
Hall-Stepan-Gaborik
Hrivik-Boyle-Pyatt
Asham-Moore/Halpern-Haley

Staal-Girardi
McDonagh-Schultz
Stralman-Petry

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I can't see the Rangers dealing Del Zotto this year. Maybe next offseason if Stralman has a big year.

He logged the third most PP ice time per game in the league last year, so NYR do seem to believe he is crucial to their power play. Aside from Stralman they have no other defensemen with a history of PP production.

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I hope that's meant to be a joke.
It is. Probably the longest running joke on Hf. Plus we would probably have to include Hall for Montoya.

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Typical HF post. Give me your good players. All mine are untouchable. I will however give you 3 tweeners and a 2nd round pick. Deal?
Canucks fans have been trying to include "Raymond, Ballard & a 3rd" in every deal for 2 years.

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01-10-2013, 02:45 PM
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Ryan Whitney + makes sense. NY will be serious about a playoff push. Whitney can provide offense, playoff experience and is better defensively than MDZ.

Yes he would be a rental, that is why the + would have to be something attractive. I am not sure what NY's needs are right now. But a deal involving those 2 would not shock me.

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Why is a rumour by eklund being taken seriously?

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I can't see the Rangers dealing Del Zotto this year. Maybe next offseason if Stralman has a big year.

He logged the third most PP ice time per game in the league last year, so NYR do seem to believe he is crucial to their power play. Aside from Stralman they have no other defensemen with a history of PP production.
With the amount of talent that NY has their PP was 23rd in the league. My guess would be that they want to change that. Adding Nash will make a significant difference, but they may want to change more than that.

I know Eklund rumors are BS. But I have heard before that the Oil were always very high on MDZ.

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Schultz, Petry and Hall for Callahan, Miller and MDZ.
Ohhhh boooyyyyyyyyy.

The only thing that MIGHT make sense would be Petry++ for MDZ. But I doubt that would happen, so I don't know why this thread exists.

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01-10-2013, 02:57 PM
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Why is a rumour by eklund being taken seriously?
because we have 3 days to kill before the training camp starts..
its been all blah blah Burke here in EDM

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Schultz, Petry and Hall for Callahan, Miller and MDZ.

Hagelin-Richards-Nash
Hall-Stepan-Gaborik
Hrivik-Boyle-Pyatt
Asham-Moore/Halpern-Haley

Staal-Girardi
McDonagh-Schultz
Stralman-Petry
We're not trading Callahan. Go away.

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Ohhhh boooyyyyyyyyy.

The only thing that MIGHT make sense would be Petry++ for MDZ. But I doubt that would happen, so I don't know why this thread exists.
That wouldn't make sense unless the + is one of the big 5.

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