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01-10-2013, 04:34 PM
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Patty doesn't want the Captaincy or at least he had not wanted it for some time now.
Patty may not be a devil next year. If I were to guess it is Kovy or three As. I can't imagine anyone else getting it.

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01-10-2013, 04:35 PM
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Patty, and Kovy are friends too. Whoever said it is just speaking their mind. Doesn't mean they have a personal problem with each other.

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Patty, and Kovy are friends too. Whoever said it is just speaking their mind. Doesn't mean they have a personal problem with each other.
Patty needled Kovy to the media the past 2 years now. Don't you guys remember when Elias said Parise was the best player on the team.

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Patty needled Kovy to the media the past 2 years now. Don't you guys remember when Elias said Parise was the best player on the team.
A lot of posters here said Parise was the best player on the team as of early morning of July 4th 2012 also.

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01-10-2013, 04:38 PM
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Patty needled Kovy to the media the past 2 years now. Don't you guys remember when Elias said Parise was the best player on the team.
I think that's a weak example. That's just his opinion.

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01-10-2013, 04:39 PM
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A lot of posters here said Parise was the best player on the team as of early morning of July 4th 2012 also.
Completely different for a fan to say it than a teammate to say it for no reason at all right to the media. I find it funny since I never thought Parise was anywhere near Kovy.

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I think that's a weak example. That's just his opinion.
I think Patty is just jealous of Kovy.

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Patty doesn't want the Captaincy or at least he had not wanted it for some time now.
hes the only guy that i would look at. salvador doesnt have the leadership everyone expects

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01-10-2013, 04:44 PM
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I think Patty is just jealous of Kovy.
Jealous of what? A lack of Stanley cups?

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IIRC Patty kinda threw Kovalchuk under the bus during John MacLean's fiasco. Weird. Did anyone else notice ?

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I think Patty is just jealous of Kovy.
How so, he has two championship rings, the same amount of bronze medals, and a smoking hot wife.

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IIRC Patty kinda threw Kovalchuk under the bus during John MacLean's fiasco. Weird. Did anyone else notice ?
Considering Patty was one of the few who still played at a normal level and Kovy played like ass under MacLean, he had every reason to do so.

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Completely different for a fan to say it than a teammate to say it for no reason at all right to the media. I find it funny since I never thought Parise was anywhere near Kovy.
I never thought Parise was either. Only thing Parise does better is his defensive play, and Kovy has improved a lot. I'm pretty sure Patty said that early last year too. We hadn't seen a full competitive season from Kovy as a Devil yet. I'm sure a lot of players said Parise was the teams best player last year. He was voted the team MVP too.

And Salvador is a great leader. I've seen quotes from players that they really like his leadership. Zajac would be great, but no thanks. Not gonna have that happen again.

Clarkson is a fantastic leader in my opinion too. Throw the flames at me I'm prepared!

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I think Patty is just jealous of Kovy.
How so?

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Patty needled Kovy to the media the past 2 years now. Don't you guys remember when Elias said Parise was the best player on the team.
I felt Parise was out best player too, at least until Kovy changed his game and became a two-way player.

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I never thought Parise was either. Only thing Parise does better is his defensive play, and Kovy has improved a lot. I'm pretty sure Patty said that early last year too. We hadn't seen a full competitive season from Kovy as a Devil yet. I'm sure a lot of players said Parise was the teams best player last year. He was voted the team MVP too.

And Salvador is a great leader. I've seen quotes from players that they really like his leadership. Zajac would be great, but no thanks. Not gonna have that happen again.

Clarkson is a fantastic leader in my opinion too. Throw the flames at me I'm prepared!
Clarkson is a great leader. He fights when he needs to, skates his hardest and doesnt give up. Provides alot of scoring for the devils

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Considering Patty was one of the few who still played at a normal level and Kovy played like ass under MacLean, he had every reason to do so.
This is quite an oversimplification of a complex situation, if you ask me.

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01-10-2013, 04:50 PM
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It was definitely Elias (unless you have a real liberal definition of 'prominent Devil' since there's only three and one of them is the subject of the criticism, while the other one's his buddy), and he's definitely been mildly critical of Kovy publicly before.

Given the fact ratification is going to take place at 8 AM Saturday now and the KHL All-Star game isn't till Sunday, Kovy doesn't have much choice now, unless players wind up getting 48 hours to report.

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I think Clarkson has tremendous leadership skills. Wouldn't be my first choice, but he's done a lot of things that have not gone unnoticed with me.

He sticks up for his guys, and will drop the gloves(Same with Kovy as we've seen)

He's a fine speaker, and doesn't go ''Uh, um uh um'' all throughout interviews like Parise. He puts it straight out there, and always has the right words.

He always gives his teammates credit ''Kovy had a great move, Zach was fantastic on that play, Patty is phenomenal, and Marty played unbelievable the whole night''

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We went on a 23-2 stretch without Parise and with this far worse lineup

Kovalchuk-Zajac-Palmieri
Rolston-Elias-Zubrus
Zharkov-Arnott-Tedenby
Sestito-Pelley-Clarkson

White-Volchenkov
Salmela-Greene
Tallinder-Fayne

Yes, what I'm saying is we'll go 25-0 now with a better lineup......no, point is we've been without Parise and with a worse lineup that wasn't exactly jelled and coming off of a cup finals appearance

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If most players had no problem with it, except 1, then maybe it's the 1 who isn't being fair. I know myself, personally, wouldn't really care about something like staying for the ASG.

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Jealous of what? A lack of Stanley cups?
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How so, he has two championship rings, the same amount of bronze medals, and a smoking hot wife.
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How so?
Idk maybe how popular Kovy is in NJ. Seems to take the spot like away from Elias who I think likes to be in it.

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If Patty likes the spotlight he wold have went to the Rangers when he had a chance

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Here's his something else:

-When asked if Lou Lamoriello would follow the other franchise in offering incentives to the fans. Lou said "No."
I don't think Lou's the one that oversees the sth reward program or some of the other Fan Experience stuff (like the two free season tickets being offered on the site)

I mean I could picture the Devils trying to push status quo, but if they think they're going to keep their 3500 new sth's in the last two years with status quo they've got a nasty surprise in store this offseason I think.

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If most players had no problem with it, except 1, then maybe it's the 1 who isn't being fair. I know myself, personally, wouldn't really care about something like staying for the ASG.
Players should want the KHL to be stronger. It will increase their pay and prevent the owners from locking them out in the future.

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