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01-10-2013, 09:15 PM
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The return of Colton Orr!

I thought Colton had played his last game for the Leafs until I read this article by Siegel.

Even though he's not the best hockey player I really liked his game before and how he stood up for his teammates in previous seasons. Since the Leafs this season clearly lacks toughness in the lineup, couldn't Orr be a nice addition on the fourth line? That is IF he can prove himself at the training camp of course. But both the quotes of Orr and Eakins got me thinking he may be back on track.


Here's the article btw: http://www.tsn.ca/toronto/blogs/jonas_siegel/?id=413265

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I like the sounds of it.

I liked him Brown and Zigo on a line together.

Kulemin - McClement - Komarov
Brown - Steckle - Orr

Is a pretty typical bottom six.

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Can no longer bury salary so he'll get a shot.

Hes got a much better chance under Carlyle, thats for sure.

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Should not be used as a guy that plays every game, but if used occasionally then could be useful.

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If Orr makes it through camp I think he would be sitting most games. Leafs invited Fraser to camp who has been the Marlies enforcer this year. Fraser could be used as the 7th dman and enforcer when needed.

Will be interesting to see what happens.

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01-10-2013, 09:24 PM
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If the proposed Bozak + Kadri/Frattin for Luongo trade goes through. Under a 23-man roster I could see him being kept as the 14th forward instead of a Colborne/Ashton type.

Lupul/Connolly/Kessel
JVR/Grabo/Kulemin
Mac/McClement/Frattin/Kadri
Komarov/Steckel/Brown
ex. Lombardi, Orr

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01-10-2013, 09:30 PM
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I like the sounds of it.

I liked him Brown and Zigo on a line together.

Kulemin - McClement - Komarov
Brown - Steckle - Orr

Is a pretty typical bottom six.
Zigomanis only played like 7 games on the Leafs. I can't even remember anything he did while up here, only what Don Cherry tells me

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01-10-2013, 09:43 PM
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Having Fraser and Orr in the press box wouldn't be a bad thing. We're playing in a division full of tough guys, would be nice not to get pushed around for once.

Ottawa: Neil, Smith (although they got a lot less tough over the summer)
Buffalo: Ott, Kaleta, Scott
Montreal: Prust, Moen
Boston: Lucic, McQuaid, Chara, Thornton

Now if the Leafs had available...

Orr, Brown, Fraser, Phaneuf and Komisarek

We would have one of the more intimidating teams in the division. I'm not sure this is the direction Nonis wants to take the team, but my theory is if the Leafs are going to lose, they might as well bang the other team up in the process.

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Having Fraser and Orr in the press box wouldn't be a bad thing. We're playing in a division full of tough guys, would be nice not to get pushed around for once.

Ottawa: Neil, Smith (although they got a lot less tough over the summer)
Buffalo: Ott, Kaleta, Scott
Montreal: Prust, Moen
Boston: Lucic, McQuaid, Chara, Thornton

Now if the Leafs had available...

Orr, Brown, Fraser, Phaneuf and Komisarek

We would have one of the more intimidating teams in the division. I'm not sure this is the direction Nonis wants to take the team, but my theory is if the Leafs are going to lose, they might as well bang the other team up in the process.
John Scott is a tough guy...no one is beating him.

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Colton Orr the new Comeback Kid?

Article here.

This past summer, I met Colton's dad while at work, and got to talking to him about his son and the Maple Leafs.

His dad was great to talk with, and shared some good stories about the Leafs. One thing he mentioned was that he felt certain that Colton would be back on the Leafs in the fall.

I was skeptical, but I read this article and it reminded me of that conversation...

Does anyone else think Orr still has what it takes?

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01-10-2013, 10:12 PM
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I remember that checking line. It was impressive. If we can get that Orr back, stick him with Komarov/Brown and Steckel, it's really the same line. Grinding winger that finishes every check and is a complete *******(esp Komarov apparently), and a big bodies centre that's dominant in the face-off circle.

I really hope he makes this team. Brings something that we desperately need in our forward group, and on our team overall. Ain't no team scared of having to answer to Brownie if they take shots at one of our better players.

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Any word from Broll yet with skating with pros ? Would be cool to see him up for a game or two !

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You cant have an enforcer who is one concussion away from retirement and possible long term damage.

His job is literally to get punched in the head and deliver huge checks. How can you rely on a player who has had severe concussion issues?

its sad to see but the best thing for Orr is to retire and keep his sanity. look at what happened to Junior Seau D:

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John Scott is a tough guy...no one is beating him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb2vF_sLKBU

Fritz is about the same size as Scott. Colton can fight big guys.

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01-11-2013, 12:06 AM
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Did anyone actually read the article? Eakins emphasized Orr gradually turning back into the hockey player Colton Orr, not the one we expected to fight every other night. Now I may not remember how effective he was with the Rangers, but I'll trust Eakins on this one.

Orr could turn heads in camp, or maybe he won't. You never know.

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I don't have anything against Colton Orr, frankly I wish most of the team had his heart. That being said his era is over. When's the last time a team made the finals with a player who's sole job was to fight?
We can ask our friends in Ottawa about Brian McGratton; likely the toughest player of his short time but there's not much use for a player who can't play and only fights.


Grinder types such as Fraser are the way to go; players who can play the game but are willing to drop the gloves if needed.

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What's the point of Orr now?

Is there still room in the league for a tough guy enforcer type? I'm not convinced that it is - at best, it's for a handful of nights per season only. Division rivalries, etc.

He's got such limited skating and puck ability, and he's such a limited player, that there's just no room for him.

Why would you give him a roster spot over someone who can inject some speed, energy, and grit into the lineup?

Outside of fighting, Orr offers nothing.

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01-11-2013, 12:46 AM
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Safe to say majority of people posting are not reading the article.

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01-11-2013, 12:48 AM
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What's the point of Orr now?

Is there still room in the league for a tough guy enforcer type? I'm not convinced that it is - at best, it's for a handful of nights per season only. Division rivalries, etc.

He's got such limited skating and puck ability, and he's such a limited player, that there's just no room for him.

Why would you give him a roster spot over someone who can inject some speed, energy, and grit into the lineup?

Outside of fighting, Orr offers nothing.
I don't agree with this. In terms of the forechecking, ability to hold the puck in the offensive zone Orr can be very effective for a 4th liner.

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01-11-2013, 01:33 AM
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You cant have an enforcer who is one concussion away from retirement and possible long term damage.

His job is literally to get punched in the head and deliver huge checks. How can you rely on a player who has had severe concussion issues?

its sad to see but the best thing for Orr is to retire and keep his sanity. look at what happened to Junior Seau D:
He had 6 fights last year in 39 games between the NHL/AHL. All against heavyweights and he did just fine.

Orr is not going to retire with a million bucks still on the table. He is going to provide an enforcer role whether it be with Leafs or Marlies. If a couple bodies up front are moved out he's probably the best choice.

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01-11-2013, 01:35 AM
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I like the sounds of it.

I liked him Brown and Zigo on a line together.

Kulemin - McClement - Komarov
Brown - Steckle - Orr

Is a pretty typical bottom six.
we're going to run into the same problem goalscoring like we did in 2010-2011 when we went top 6-bottom 6.

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I like the sounds of it.

I liked him Brown and Zigo on a line together.

Kulemin - McClement - Komarov
Brown - Steckle - Orr

Is a pretty typical bottom six.
Exactly people need to realize that Mike Brown is not simply a tough guy. Colton Orr fits perfectly as a more pure enforcer, and as long as he's worked on his skating and conditioning he'll be fine.

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01-11-2013, 05:52 PM
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We may need him...

Montreal will want to win anyway they can,and remember they like to injure our key players.They have now added Praust,we had better be ready as interdivisonal games are huge now.If we don't have Orr,Montreal will take liberties again.Carlyle will give him a chance.

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