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01-11-2013, 03:38 PM
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if the leafs get luongo they will make the playoffs.

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I see what you're saying but Messier by far considers himself a Ranger and pretty much acts as if he was never an Oiler at all.
Does that mean Edmonton shouldn't have retired his number?

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You can make a substantive contribution to more than one franchise, it's rare but possible. Patrick Roy's number should absolutely be retired in Montreal AND Colorado, for another example.

As far as Nieds, if he wants to do it let him. I never really considered him the hockey lifer that would want to coach after his career was over, and it sounds like this isn't going to be a full-time job (yet at least). It's not like we have a shortage of HOF defensemen on our staff anyway.

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You can make a substantive contribution to more than one franchise, it's rare but possible. Patrick Roy's number should absolutely be retired in Montreal AND Colorado, for another example.
Never understood how Bourque had his number retired in Colorado after playing 1 1/6 of a season for them.

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Never understood how Bourque had his number retired in Colorado after playing 1 1/6 of a season for them.
I found it humorous that it came into play later when the Avs got Chris Gratton and Pierre Turgeon.

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Does that mean Edmonton shouldn't have retired his number?
Not at all although I can see why it would irritate some Edmonton fans (his distancing himself from the franchise, not the jersey number retirement)

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Not at all although I can see why it would irritate some Edmonton fans (his distancing himself from the franchise, not the jersey number retirement)
He retired as a member of another franchise. Niedermayer retired as a member of another franchise. The "distance" was already there.

You retire a player for what he did while wearing your jersey, not what he did while out of it.

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01-11-2013, 04:30 PM
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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...id=DL|NHL|home

A primer on all the offseason moves before the chaos begins this weekend. I'm pretty sure I literally forgot half this stuff, I knew I'd better get a refresher when Sirius radio said they were having the Stars coach on and when they said his name I was like 'WHO?!'.

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01-11-2013, 04:40 PM
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if the leafs get luongo they will make the playoffs.
I'm not so sure of that. Like I said a lot of good goalies played on bad teams last year, and posted really good numbers like Price, Ward, Miller, Kipper, etc. Even Nabby with the Isles. Canadiens finished dead last with Carey Price posting a 916 save percentage.

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Well any predictions now are subject to change based on what happens the next week, but I'm not sold on the Canes. All they did for this year was upgrade Brandon Sutter to Jordan Staal (who never stays healthy anyway), and add a much moodier Russian than Kovy ever was. Do they even have a real backup behind Ward? I'm not sure they can run him out 45-48 games this year. Tampa could surprise 'again' if Lindback pans out, their goaltending wasn't just bad last year - it was AHL-backup caliber.
Tampa Bay's defense was terrible last year trust me. They spent most games they played pinned in their zone getting forechecked into oblivion. They may have been a little better if Dwayne Roloson didn't play, and if career backup Matheiu Garon was not forced to be their starter. For all this talk about Guy Boucher being a defensive genious his team sure didn't play like it last year. I expect them to score a lot because they got a nice set of forwards. I expect them to also give up a lot of goals too, but maybe not as much as last year.

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He retired as a member of another franchise. Niedermayer retired as a member of another franchise. The "distance" was already there.

You retire a player for what he did while wearing your jersey, not what he did while out of it.
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I found it humorous that it came into play later when the Avs got Chris Gratton and Pierre Turgeon.
I don't think I'm familiar with this story, could you please explain?

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01-11-2013, 09:20 PM
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I think he just means cause Gratton and Turgeon wore #77 in their career, but since #77 was retired in Colorado they had to get different numbers. It is ironic, since you don't think of #77 as a popular number that the Avs would get 'two' more guys who wore it after.

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Turgeon was one of my favorite players in the league.

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01-11-2013, 09:57 PM
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We NEED to retire ALMO's number! Come on guys he won his only Cup with us, and was only here for the same amount of time Bourque was in Colorado! (Maybe a little more though with his second stint after last lockout)

It's not like anybody is ever gonna wear #89 again for us anyway!

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Tampa Bay's defense was terrible last year trust me. They spent most games they played pinned in their zone getting forechecked into oblivion. They may have been a little better if Dwayne Roloson didn't play, and if career backup Matheiu Garon was not forced to be their starter. For all this talk about Guy Boucher being a defensive genious his team sure didn't play like it last year. I expect them to score a lot because they got a nice set of forwards. I expect them to also give up a lot of goals too, but maybe not as much as last year.
My opinion of the Tampa goaltending is slightly colored by the fact I was saddled with Roloson in 'both' my fantasy leagues. I somehow won the HF league despite hideous goaltending for much of the year (other than Tim Thomas's first half). The other league I wasn't so fortunate, but I had a mostly autodrafted team from **** there.

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We NEED to retire ALMO's number! Come on guys he won his only Cup with us, and was only here for the same amount of time Bourque was in Colorado! (Maybe a little more though with his second stint after last lockout)

It's not like anybody is ever gonna wear #89 again for us anyway!
so ridiculous.


bourque is ********.

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01-11-2013, 10:07 PM
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My opinion of the Tampa goaltending is slightly colored by the fact I was saddled with Roloson in 'both' my fantasy leagues. I somehow won the HF league despite hideous goaltending for much of the year (other than Tim Thomas's first half). The other league I wasn't so fortunate, but I had a mostly autodrafted team from **** there.
Yeah Roloson was terrible last year, but Garon wasn't so good either. Though he was just a backup that had to take over, and become a starter cause of how bad Roloson was struggling. The team was a joke defensively, and that 1-3-1 was a joke. I really believe they will be in the top 10 in the league for most goals against again. Maybe even top 5. They gave Matt Carle that stupid contract too. Have fun with that!

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01-11-2013, 10:27 PM
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Tampa got Lindback from Nashville so their goaltending should be better this year. Carolina added Jordan Staal and Semin so they should also be better..we added Krys Barch - watch out Atlantic Division!

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Tampa got Lindback from Nashville so their goaltending should be better this year. Carolina added Jordan Staal and Semin so they should also be better..we added Krys Barch - watch out Atlantic Division!
Lindback hasn't proven squat yet. Tampa Bay could find out that they overpaid for a very average oaf when working as a starting goaltender. We'll probably be an easy victory for him though. In the regular season we can't score against big goalies other than the monster five hole Gustavsson! Too bad Detroit picked him up!

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Tampa got Lindback from Nashville so their goaltending should be better this year. Carolina added Jordan Staal and Semin so they should also be better..we added Krys Barch - watch out Atlantic Division!
Wasn't the goaltenders problem last year, I mean obviously at 43 Rolo wasn't as good as he once was but the D was complete and utter ****.

They traded KUbina which left them with Brewer and Hedman really. They had guys like Gervais and stuff

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Tampa got Lindback from Nashville so their goaltending should be better this year. Carolina added Jordan Staal and Semin so they should also be better..we added Krys Barch - watch out Atlantic Division!

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