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01-12-2013, 01:20 PM
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How long is camp again? 5 days?

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01-12-2013, 01:23 PM
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I agree that he deserves to go to camp but I suspect Commodore had a verbal agreement to get a look once the lockout ended.
Wouldn't be surprise, and again, I'm fine with that. But I don't see how it ended up being Commodore or St-Denis. Mind you, we also have to take into consideration that we might not even have enough to determine Diaz, Weber or who else is #7, #8 and if we have to make other type of changes. So the more D's in play, the less time for each you have.

Possible that not inviting St-Denis is mostly about the fact that "we know what you can give us and won't hesitate calling you if needed but there are more question marks than you". If so, it might explain it.

As far as Desjardins, well based on merit....and I didn't watch everything, some say he is struggling. Though who wouldn't with the team he has in front of him.

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01-12-2013, 01:27 PM
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Wouldn't be surprise, and again, I'm fine with that. But I don't see how it ended up being Commodore or St-Denis. Mind you, we also have to take into consideration that we might not even have enough to determine Diaz, Weber or who else is #7, #8 and if we have to make other type of changes. So the more D's in play, the less time for each you have.

Possible that not inviting St-Denis is mostly about the fact that "we know what you can give us and won't hesitate calling you if needed but there are more question marks than you". If so, it might explain it.

As far as Desjardins, well based on merit....and I didn't watch everything, some say he is struggling. Though who wouldn't with the team he has in front of him.
I'm a huge Desjardins fan but he has not played well lately. I think he's lost about 9 in a row now. Not sure if it's the team or if his injury is still bugging him or what. But when you're being outplayed (lately anyway) by Robert Mayer.. there's an obvious issue.

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But then we'd piss off the gang of people who want some huge WWE heavyweight bruiser. Oh well, I guess we can only satisfy some of the illogical biases people have in regards to this hockey team.
Illogical bias?

Not sure which Montreal Canadiens team you watched last year. The one that I watched was soft as hell, got pushed around, watched Carey Price get pushed around and finished in last place in the East.

It's illogical to want more of the same softness (especially on defense) in Montreal. Unless the goal is to become the Edmonton Oilers and always end up with great draft picks each year as they go nowhere.

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01-12-2013, 01:31 PM
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Wouldn't be surprise, and again, I'm fine with that. But I don't see how it ended up being Commodore or St-Denis. Mind you, we also have to take into consideration that we might not even have enough to determine Diaz, Weber or who else is #7, #8 and if we have to make other type of changes. So the more D's in play, the less time for each you have.

Possible that not inviting St-Denis is mostly about the fact that "we know what you can give us and won't hesitate calling you if needed but there are more question marks than you". If so, it might explain it.

As far as Desjardins, well based on merit....and I didn't watch everything, some say he is struggling. Though who wouldn't with the team he has in front of him.
At the end of the day an invite to Commodore or St.Denis is just a kind gesture as both have a 0% chance of making the club if everyone is healthy. Plus if waivers are an issue they would much rather expose Commodore.

St.Denis is a nice option as a call up and I am quite content with that.

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Illogical bias?

Not sure which Montreal Canadiens team you watched last year. The one that I watched was soft as hell, got pushed around, watched Carey Price get pushed around and finished in last place in the East.

It's illogical to want more of the same softness (especially on defense) in Montreal. Unless the goal is to become the Edmonton Oilers and always end up with great draft picks each year as they go nowhere.
New Jersey went to the finals without a bunch of tough guys and Detroit have done the same in years past.

It is a lack of fear that makes players tough, not necessarily a willingness to fight.


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01-12-2013, 01:37 PM
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Of all the many things that made the Habs suck last year, not having big fighters wasn't exactly reason number 1.

The Habs defense is definitely too soft, but the first way to remedy that is to have a team good enough not not constantly be pinned in its own zone.

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How long is camp again? 5 days?
No. I'm sure it's either 1 day or 15 days.

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01-12-2013, 01:40 PM
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No, that can't be it.

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Of all the many things that made the Habs suck last year, not having big fighters wasn't exactly reason number 1.

The Habs defense is definitely too soft, but the first way to remedy that is to have a team good enough not not constantly be pinned in its own zone.
You mean you didn't notice how awesome we became when we added Staubitz?

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I'm glad that what TVASports was wrong and that Dumont is getting called up, the kid deserves it and I think he'll be our 4th line center.

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01-12-2013, 02:03 PM
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I'm glad that what TVASports was wrong and that Dumont is getting called up, the kid deserves it and I think he'll be our 4th line center.
Until Nokaleinen is cleared to play.

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01-12-2013, 02:13 PM
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Until Nokaleinen is cleared to play.
Montreal has too many signed players for anyone to make the team.

Plekanec, Pacioretty, Cole, Desharnais, Gionta, Bourque, Armstrong, Moen, Prust, Gomez, Eller, Nokelainen, White (13)

Markov, Subban, Kaberle, Emelin, Boullion, Diaz, Weber, Gorges (8)

Price, Budaj (2)

If Galchenyuk makes the team, that's 14 forwards for the Canadiens. If Dumont made it instead, how much ice time do you really think he'd get this season? He's better as a first call up on injury.

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01-12-2013, 02:15 PM
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Montreal has too many signed players for anyone to make the team.

Plekanec, Pacioretty, Cole, Desharnais, Gionta, Bourque, Armstrong, Moen, Prust, Gomez, Eller, Nokelainen, White (13)

Markov, Subban, Kaberle, Emelin, Boullion, Diaz, Weber, Gorges (8)

Price, Budaj (2)

If Galchenyuk makes the team, that's 14 forwards for the Canadiens. If Dumont made it instead, how much ice time do you really think he'd get this season? He's better as a first call up on injury.
Yep. Some trades are gonna have to go down pretty soon.

TBH I think weber's days are numbered.

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We need to be careful. There are not a whole lot of guys we can call up from Hamilton when we'll have injuries. Fun to trade guys and stuff but I hope we are really careful about it.

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Yep. Some trades are gonna have to go down pretty soon.

TBH I think weber's days are numbered.
Please trade the following:

Cole, Desharnais, Gionta, Bourque, Armstrong, Moen, Prust, Gomez, Nokelainen

Kaberle, Boullion, Diaz, Weber

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We need to be careful. There are not a whole lot of guys we can call up from Hamilton when we'll have injuries. Fun to trade guys and stuff but I hope we are really careful about it.
Absolutely, the "depth" on defence is a plus, since I don't wanna see Tinordi anywhere near this team this year. Despite having a nice progression in the AHL.

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We need to be careful. There are not a whole lot of guys we can call up from Hamilton when we'll have injuries. Fun to trade guys and stuff but I hope we are really careful about it.
I think Montreal has room to make trades on the blueline. Diaz and Weber are better than St. Denis but that doesn't mean Habs would be dead in the water with St. Denis or Commodore as a seventh D-man. Montreal has room to move Weber and there are teams that need a guy like him.

On forward... Nokia and Gomez are definitely gone next season. Not sure with Armstrong. If Dumont continues to progress, he could have that fourth line center spot next season.

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01-12-2013, 02:32 PM
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Please trade the following:

Cole, Desharnais, Gionta, Bourque, Armstrong, Moen, Prust, Gomez, Nokelainen

Kaberle, Boullion, Diaz, Weber

Budaj

No, no, no, yes, meh, no, meh, yes, meh

yes, yes, meh, yes

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I have this weird feeling that Gomez is going to be good this season. He'll still get bought out but I think the Aces was a good experience for him. Good might be... permanent fourth line center or playing wing but 10 points from him in this half season would be a blessing.

Bourque needs to be on the right wing or else we should go ahead and trade him now.

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I have this weird feeling that Gomez is going to be good this season. He'll still get bought out but I think the Aces was a good experience for him. Good might be... permanent fourth line center or playing wing but 10 points from him in this half season would be a blessing.

Bourque needs to be on the right wing or else we should go ahead and trade him now.
What?

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What?
A 20 or so point pace would be good for a fourth liner

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A 20 or so point pace would be good for a fourth liner
If Gomez were to be good this year, I don't think he'd be a 4th liner.

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If Gomez were to be good this year, I don't think he'd be a 4th liner.
He just has to be good enough to play a role.

Maybe you see good as pushing Desharnais out of a top six center role but all Gomez has to do is play either fourth line center or wing.

If Gomez plays like 09-10 Gomez, Montreal will probably be winning the northeast division.

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