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C Alex Forsberg - Saskatoon Blades, WHL (2013 undrafted)

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01-11-2013, 10:01 PM
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Was on the game sheet tonight in the win, no points from what i can see

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01-11-2013, 11:42 PM
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Was on the game sheet tonight in the win, no points from what i can see
Yeah I bet the scouts are booking flights to Humboldt to watch him play now!!

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01-12-2013, 12:58 AM
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The draft is not necessary to parity in the league. but it does make it easier for teams to control playersThe fact that Forsberg can't play in the SJHL, or anywhere in the CHL is because he is an asset owned by Prince George.

The Cougars are a business and PG wants a return on their investment (which was playing lousy enough to pick 1st, it's not like they have any personal investment in Forberg).

The reason drafts stay in the pro leagues is because they are bargained, one day someone will challenge the legality of the CHL draft and maybe teams will sink or swim like all business do in the real world.

Wait hockey isn't the real world or did some people miss the lockout?
Care to explain?

BTW - I said nothing about parity.

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01-12-2013, 01:03 PM
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Care to explain?

BTW - I said nothing about parity.
Okay you didn't use the word parity, you said "to have an equitable league" which pretty much means the same thing.

I understand how drafts work and also have an understanding about recruiting for college, specifically in football with family members being involved in the process.

Both have their pros and cons but this necessity of a draft is always overblown and it's pretty obvious that there is no need for one.

The draft is a recent invention in hockey circles and took over from the reserve player clause but both systems put the control factor in the teams favor and the player has extremely limited options of playing elsewhere if they want to become professional hockey players.

Look I'm not a huge Forberg fan but this "suck it up and just play" mentality and the defending of Prince George, which is an extremely poorly run team, is equally as damaging to hockey IMO.

Forsberg is a great talent but he won't succeed unless he pouts in the work and effort.

Likewise for PG, they have to actually develop talent and create a better environment, something which is unlikely to happen under the current ownership IMO.


Also in ending teams have protected player lists as well as the draft and this is from the site.

The following WHL stars were not selected in the WHL Bantam Draft but were added to a WHL Club PPL at a later date: Jarome Iginla, Darcy Tucker, Dan Hamhuis, Scottie Upshall, Joffrey Lupul, Jeff Woywitka, and Shane Doan, just to name a few.

We are seeing more push back and players wanting control, see for example.

The OHL has seen this as well and it isn't falling apart is it?

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01-12-2013, 03:56 PM
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Yeah I bet the scouts are booking flights to Humboldt to watch him play now!!
Players from the SJHL do get drafted by NHL teams from time to time and scouts do pay attention to the league.

Now that Forsberg is there, I can guarantee that NHL scouts will book trips to see him play. I still think a team will gamble on him and pick him in the 5th round or so.

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01-12-2013, 07:06 PM
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I knew it wasn't, it was just the last sentence of your post I felt was a touch dramatic.
It might've been, I was just more trying to emphasis my point.

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Players from the SJHL do get drafted by NHL teams from time to time and scouts do pay attention to the league.

Now that Forsberg is there, I can guarantee that NHL scouts will book trips to see him play. I still think a team will gamble on him and pick him in the 5th round or so.
I agree, even with questions about his judgment even in the 4th round his skill set is worth the risk for most teams.

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01-12-2013, 07:58 PM
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so question... can forsberg play in the AHL next year since he wont be drafted out of the CHL?

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so question... can forsberg play in the AHL next year since he wont be drafted out of the CHL?
That's a good question.

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01-12-2013, 08:26 PM
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so question... can forsberg play in the AHL next year since he wont be drafted out of the CHL?
Huh, shocked I never thought of that. But I would think he could, but I could be wrong. Don't think it would be the best move however.

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Huh, shocked I never thought of that. But I would think he could, but I could be wrong. Don't think it would be the best move however.
He could potentially sign the season after too if he's good enough.

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Huh, shocked I never thought of that. But I would think he could, but I could be wrong. Don't think it would be the best move however.
well, echl might make more sense, but still, it's an interesting question.

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It would come down to a technicality like if Prince George was required to sign release papers to let him play in Humbolt as the newspaper article suggested.

If he is eligible to play in the AHL a team might be more likely to draft him a bit higher than a 4th or 5th round because they could control his development.

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01-12-2013, 08:49 PM
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I should of played in humbolt!

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01-12-2013, 08:57 PM
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I know that it's very early to post something like this because there is still a third of the season left, but it Humboldt wins the SJHL, it could make for a very interesting inaugural Western Canada Cup. Forsberg will no doubt make an already strong Broncos team better, but will it be enough to beat the Brooks Bandits or whoever comes out of BC and Manitoba. Personally, I'm pretty excited about how this will all turn out. Hopefully this kid is still focused on his career after this fiasco.

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01-12-2013, 09:06 PM
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let me give you americans and canucks some info

on this humboldt broncos team as i am 40 miles away from the city. very good goaltending, good defensive team that is finally getting a boat load of injured d men back. they are a bit light on offense, and adding a guy like forsberg, is gonna be a big boost. flin flon and yorkton and humboldt are the 3 strongest teams in the league. expect humboldt to go very far. these guys are gonna move up in national ranks. but ranks mean nothing. if these boys make it to the royal rank cup, i would be very very afraid of this team.

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on this humboldt broncos team as i am 40 miles away from the city. very good goaltending, good defensive team that is finally getting a boat load of injured d men back. they are a bit light on offense, and adding a guy like forsberg, is gonna be a big boost. flin flon and yorkton and humboldt are the 3 strongest teams in the league. expect humboldt to go very far. these guys are gonna move up in national ranks. but ranks mean nothing. if these boys make it to the royal rank cup, i would be very very afraid of this team.
Why, are they suddenly going to become the Brooks Bandits?

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01-13-2013, 12:57 AM
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guys have been drafted out of the sjhl before, havent they?

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Huh, shocked I never thought of that. But I would think he could, but I could be wrong. Don't think it would be the best move however.
Who would want him?

He wouldnt last five minutes in the AHL.

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Why doesn't he play in the BCHL even where the level is much higher is my question?

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Why doesn't he play in the BCHL even where the level is much higher is my question?
Who told you that? I'd say the four western leagues are pretty close in competition...at least in my opinion.

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Who told you that? I'd say the four western leagues are pretty close in competition...at least in my opinion.
It has been said that Sask has the weakest Jr. A league in the west. BC produces the most collegiate talent of the 4 western leagues

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so question... can forsberg play in the AHL next year since he wont be drafted out of the CHL?
Way too obvious of a loophole that could be exploited by tons of guys just playing a couple games at the end of the year in a league other than the CHL in their draft year. I assume playing in the CHL at all before being drafted gets you covered as being drafted out of the CHL for CHL-AHL purposes.

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Who told you that? I'd say the four western leagues are pretty close in competition...at least in my opinion.
I would disagree greatly. I would rank them:

BC


Alberta


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I would disagree greatly. I would rank them:

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Alberta


Saskatchewan
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agreed, althought sask and man are interchangeable

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