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[CAR/LAK] Kevin Westgarth for Anthony Stewart, 4th pick, 6th pick

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01-13-2013, 12:12 PM
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Westgarth fought alot but did he ever land a punch yeah maybe once every blue moon he was a terrible fighter lol. And he's terrible

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01-13-2013, 12:12 PM
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One dimensional players like Kevin Westgarth are slowly losing there jobs, and players like Jordan Nolan are taking them.

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01-13-2013, 12:14 PM
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I thought at best we might get a fifth or sixth for Westgarth, but a 4th AND a 6th? Not much to dislike about this deal from a Kings point of view

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Name me one Kings fan who raved about Westgarth. He's a cheerleader. Nothing more than that. He can't even hit.
Sorry I don't keep track of the names King's fans use on the Internet, but there was definitely love for him. Within the context of his role anyway. Not a big deal all fans on here love to slag guys they've just traded.

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After this deal went under...I'd hate to be Rutherford in nine months...

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Westgarth fought alot but did he ever land a punch yeah maybe once every blue moon he was a terrible fighter lol. And he's terrible
He's not that bad of an enforcer.

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Name me one Kings fan who raved about Westgarth. He's a cheerleader. Nothing more than that. He can't even hit.
It was probably Johnny Utah, him and his goon fetish.

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Did any of these things really need to be accomplished? Stewart makes 900k for one year.
With this deal they get a guy that's worth a roster spot for a guy that isn't. Contracts matter, not just the salary.

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He's not that bad of an enforcer.
Just think...his favorite punching bag is in Florida (Parros)...

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Kevin Westgarth....good guy, not a good hockey player.

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Sorry I don't keep track of the names King's fans use on the Internet, but there was definitely love for him. Within the context of his role anyway. Not a big deal all fans on here love to slag guys they've just traded.
Believe me, Westgarth was hated a long time ago. I had no hate towards him myself, but other Kings fans sure did. Some were pretty rude about it, too.

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With this deal they get a guy that's worth a roster spot for a guy that isn't. Contracts matter, not just the salary.
I just don't understand why JR felt that his guy had to be Kevin Westgarth. In a straight trade for Stewart? Sure, why not if you feel like Stewart isn't worth a spot. But why move picks for a guy that really can't play anyway? These guys can be picked up any time off the scrap heap.

-0.4 point shares in 90 games. That isn't someone you move picks for.

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01-13-2013, 12:22 PM
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He's not that bad of an enforcer.
Lol have you seen him fight? Sure ill give him that he never backed down but boy did he take punches in bunches. His never connected. Clifford fought the players Westgarth should be fighting and won them. Westgarth was just terrible as a fighter. I was so disappointed

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Just think...his favorite punching bag is in Florida (Parros)...
Both players came from the Ivy-League.

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It looks like Carolina's trying to go for it this season, but JR's not quite sure how.
Exactly. Their two moves today seem like lateral moves disguised as win-now deals. For a team that will probably peak as a bottom-four seed (and just as likely miss the playoffs altogether), that doesn't make much sense to me.

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Has Stewart lost that much of his game?
he had a bad yr and I think is overpaid which is why Carolina is giving picks too. Wasnt Westgarth big in the CBA negotiations? funny hes moved

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Going to be tough for Canes fans who think they got a decent 4th liner, when they realize that Westgarth isn't a good enough skater to get near people to hit them

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he had a bad yr and I think is overpaid which is why Carolina is giving picks too. Wasnt Westgarth big in the CBA negotiations? funny hes moved
He only makes 900K.

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Oh no! Not a 4th round pick!!!! WHY JR WHY!?!?!?!?!?

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I just don't understand why JR felt that his guy had to be Kevin Westgarth. In a straight trade for Stewart? Sure, why not if you feel like Stewart isn't worth a spot. But why move picks for a guy that really can't play anyway? These guys can be picked up any time off the scrap heap.

-0.4 point shares in 90 games. That isn't someone you move picks for.
Well you shouldn't judge an enforcer by his point totals, and have to think of it from Carolina's pov, they needed toughness and are on a budget. Sacrificing a couple later picks to save some money and get a player that is at least useful makes sense for them.

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Lol have you seen him fight? Sure ill give him that he never backed down but boy did he take punches in bunches. His never connected. Clifford fought the players Westgarth should be fighting and won them. Westgarth was just terrible as a fighter. I was so disappointed
Yes, I have. He's not the greatest at fighting, but he's decent. His fight card was impressive when he was in the AHL. He has won fights against Deryk Engelland, Pierre-Luc Leblond, D.J. King and Joel Rechlicz.

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I know Anthony Stewart isn't an all-star but those picks alone have to be more valuable than Westgarth.

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Sorry I don't keep track of the names King's fans use on the Internet, but there was definitely love for him. Within the context of his role anyway. Not a big deal all fans on here love to slag guys they've just traded.
I posted this yesterday:

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Wish we would get rid of: Westgarth. From all accounts a great guy and teammate, but he's nothing more than a staged fighter. I'm all for an emotional scrap between two guys in the heat of the game, but Westgarth coming off the bench to get into an agreed upon scrap is boring in my opinion, and he can go do that elsewhere.
As an actual player he is as one dimensional is it gets, and he's pretty bad at that one dimension

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Yes, I have. He's not the greatest at fighting, but he's decent. His fight card was impressive when he was in the AHL. He has won fights against Deryk Engelland, Pierre-Luc Leblond, D.J. King and Joel Rechlicz.
That's nice. But in the NHL he became everyone's punching bag, especially Parros

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In sending Alt out, no idea even with his struggles this year at Minnesota.

But this one actually makes sense. Stewart was easily the Canes second worst player last season. Only player that was worse was Joslin who got bought out. Stewart was a liability as a 3rd liner and beyond ineffective as a 4th liner. There were rumored work ethic issues last year and they continued where he was playing in England during the lockout. Westgarth, while not good, at least fits a role that the Canes are looking for in a 4th liner. So it's basically Westgarth for a 4th and taking Stewart off our hands for a 6th.

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I definitely feel that LA got the better of this deal, even without the picks...but the picks tacked on...
As single-purpose as Westgarth may be as an enforcer, that's still one more purpose then Stewart had for the Canes. I can't say I've ever seen someone that put up 20 points in a season be that useless, but that's Stewart in a nutshell.

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