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01-13-2013, 02:22 PM
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Ok, I am sure this is totally hypothetical, but if the Avs and Ryan cant figure something out, he would be an incredible fit here. How much of a ridiculous payment would we have to give to get something like that. I guess DaveG I am looking for some input from you here, since you know much more about our system and other systems and prospects and draft picks etc than I.

Like I said, likely pipe dream, but wanted to stop thinking about something I knew nothing about.

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01-13-2013, 02:30 PM
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It'll only happen if he demands a trade, which he won't. Pitts and something else good I'd bet. They could do better elsewhere than that I think. He would've been named Cpt if he wasn't a holdout. He's brindamour at 20. They have no replacement coming for him either. They could ask for skinner. We should consider it if they did.

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01-13-2013, 02:37 PM
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We would have to give up a **** tonne, probably more than I would want to give.

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Ok, I am sure this is totally hypothetical, but if the Avs and Ryan cant figure something out, he would be an incredible fit here. How much of a ridiculous payment would we have to give to get something like that. I guess DaveG I am looking for some input from you here, since you know much more about our system and other systems and prospects and draft picks etc than I.

Like I said, likely pipe dream, but wanted to stop thinking about something I knew nothing about.
Really not sure what the Avs need, Bleed might be a bit better there then I would be. I'd almost have to think that both Pitkanen and Rask would be in play for any such trade though, which makes it tough. But if all they were asking was Pitkanen and Rask it's hard to turn that down, especially if Faulk and Murphy are ready for prime time.

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01-13-2013, 03:15 PM
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We would have to give up a **** tonne, probably more than I would want to give.
Not only that, we gotta pay the guy too, he's looking at 5m+/ yr

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We would want a d-man. A guy like Kulikov in Florida.

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01-13-2013, 05:09 PM
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Avs need top 3 dmen. They have plenty of forwards right now. Core dmen.

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Ok, from what I am reading, he is looking for 3-4 mil a year (according to thefourthperiod), so in the new CBA, are there any new rules for offer sheets?

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02-07-2013, 05:16 PM
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Ok, since there is a new article on Yahoo about ROR, I just wanted to revisit this topic after 10 games or so have been played. Just wondering if anyone thinks we should offer him?

Maybe 4 year offer for:
3, 4, 4.5, 4.5?

I know its a risk, but he would be a great fit here as 3rd line center. We have the cap to spend, and the flexibility of Ruutu on LTIR. Just thinking out loud. Like I said, I know its a risk, as his numbers arent incredible, but if he continues to grow, it might be a good deal for us. 18 goals and 37 assists last year is a good start and he is just turning 22 today.

With a 4 mil average, I dont think it would cost us too much compensation.....you Mods would know those rules better than I.

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02-07-2013, 05:25 PM
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I can't see him signing somewhere he's going to be playing 3rd line center.

We're not going to offer him anything other teams wouldn't offer him

a) big money
b) a top 6 center spot
c) a perennial contender

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02-07-2013, 05:33 PM
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We have the cap space for this year, but we don't have the money long term to spend $4M/yr on a third-line center.

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02-07-2013, 05:54 PM
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I can't see him signing somewhere he's going to be playing 3rd line center.

We're not going to offer him anything other teams wouldn't offer him

a) big money
b) a top 6 center spot
c) a perennial contender


Tlusty-Eric-Semin
Skinner-ROR-Jordan
Bowman-Jokinen-Dwyer
Nodl-Brent-Wallace
Westgarth




Then trade Char + pick + Corvo for a better defenseman.
Sign a cheap 3C for the following year. Re-sign Fats for something cheap. Re-sign Semin to something cheaper. Re-sign Ellis. Fill in as necessary. Roll out with

Tlusty-Eric-Semin
Skinner-ROR-Jordan
Bowman-3C-Ruutu
X-X-Dwyer

Gleason-Faulk
Pitkanen-New Guy
Harrison-McBain

Ward
Ellis


???

Profit

Wake up

EDIT: I debated Skinner-Eric-Semin and Tlusty-ROR-Jordan. That second line's defense...


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02-07-2013, 06:11 PM
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We have our top 2 centers. I don't think we need to worry about that anymore. If we WERE to sign ROR, he'd play on our 3rd line and we'd be able to roll 3 (or 4) deep.

If he were to sign tomorrow:

Tlusty - Staal - Semin
Skinner - Staal - Dwyer
Jokinen - O'Reilly - Bowman
Larose - Brent - Wallace

4th line sucks, but the top 3 lines are incredible, especially going into the playoffs if we get Ruutu back, that'll keep Dwyer out but by then he will have obviously come back to Earth anyway.

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02-07-2013, 06:39 PM
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It'll only happen if he demands a trade, which he won't. Pitts and something else good I'd bet. They could do better elsewhere than that I think. He would've been named Cpt if he wasn't a holdout. He's brindamour at 20. They have no replacement coming for him either. They could ask for skinner. We should consider it if they did.
Umm, no.

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02-07-2013, 07:37 PM
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Ok, I agree with Cardiac..."NO"

Why would he only consider top 6 play? He scored 55 points....he cant be making those type of demands. Any team that is a perennial contender wont have him as first or second line center....maybe on the wing.

Why do we not have the money long term to have a 4 mil third line center? Is it because we have a Ruutu at 5 mil a year? How brutal is that....hated it since day one.

If you are going to be a contender, you gotta pay somewhere, and its painfully obvious we wont ever spend more than 4 mil on a defenseman unless its Ozolinsh

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02-07-2013, 07:46 PM
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We have our top 2 centers. I don't think we need to worry about that anymore. If we WERE to sign ROR, he'd play on our 3rd line and we'd be able to roll 3 (or 4) deep.

If he were to sign tomorrow:

Tlusty - Staal - Semin
Skinner - Staal - Dwyer
Jokinen - O'Reilly - Bowman
Larose - Brent - Wallace

4th line sucks, but the top 3 lines are incredible, especially going into the playoffs if we get Ruutu back, that'll keep Dwyer out but by then he will have obviously come back to Earth anyway.
That is a lethal top 9.

Ruutu back we could trade for a legit D.

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02-08-2013, 08:42 AM
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Would take Pitkanen going the other way and I don't think that's a move you can make right now. Maybe next year, not right now though.

But probably not ever. I think we may have to resign ourselves to this being a two-line team for the forseeable future. This year with the shortened season that's probably very doable. Long-term they need to come up with something else. Who knows, maybe Rask will step in next year.

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02-08-2013, 08:59 AM
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Then trade Char + pick + Corvo for a better defenseman.
You lost me right there.

Nobody in their right mind would give us anything decent for a combination LaRose, Corvo, and a pick.

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02-08-2013, 10:49 AM
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You lost me right there.

Nobody in their right mind would give us anything decent for a combination LaRose, Corvo, and a pick.
Well, considering I didn't say anything about the relative quality of the defenseman, I'm not implying that we get a first-pairing D out of this trade. Just somebody who can provide physical shutdown defense while not looking totally out of place in the top 4.


Also, I did finish the post with me waking up from my dream.

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Probably pointless to bring this back up but Bruce Garrioch over at the Ottawa Sun reports we're in talks with Colorado regarding ROR.

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There is talk a decision on the future of holdout Colorado centre Ryan O'Reilly will be made soon. The two sides have reached an impasse and GM Greg Sherman could finally be ready to make a trade. Several teams -- including the Rangers, Flyers, Leafs and Hurricanes -- are involved in the talks. Carolina GM Jim Rutherford is sneaky. His club has moved up the standings and I wouldn't be surprised if O'Reilly landed there ...
Short of sending Ruutu back in the trade is there any way we could afford this (assuming we want to keep Semin).

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Probably pointless to bring this back up but Bruce Garrioch over at the Ottawa Sun reports we're in talks with Colorado regarding ROR.



Short of sending Ruutu back in the trade is there any way we could afford this (assuming we want to keep Semin).
That would be interesting.

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It's okay, we can just go into game settings and turn the salary cap off, right?

Joking aside, i wonder what the asking price for him is.

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It's okay, we can just go into game settings and turn the salary cap off, right?

Joking aside, i wonder what the asking price for him is.
2013 1st to start would be my guess.

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It's okay, we can just go into game settings and turn the salary cap off, right?

Joking aside, i wonder what the asking price for him is.
They apparently asked for Del Zotto and/or Stepan from New York.

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