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01-13-2013, 01:53 PM
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Agreed but how much better is PK? Definately not 4 million dolllars better.
Subban should get no more then 3 - 3.5 mil per for two seasons.

Sorry but this is laughable. PK not bet then MKZ

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Sorry but this is laughable. PK not bet then MKZ
Not to insult you but...You need to re-read the post.
I never said PK wasn't better the MDZ, I asked how much better and in my eye's he's not 4 millin dollars better then what MDZ got which is 2.55 per year.

Subban is not Duncan Keith, Shea Weber or Drew Doughty good tus he deserves significantly les then them and like others before him two year deal is plenty leading up to one more RFA contract before becoming UFA.

7 million Two years and 3.5 cap hit is plenty for Subban.
I may stretch it out to 8 mil but that would be the absolute max.
Meehan also represents MDZ so this will be interesting......

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01-13-2013, 01:57 PM
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Agreed but how much better is PK? Definately not 4 million dolllars better.
Subban should get no more then 3 - 3.5 mil per for two seasons.

Sorry but this is laughable. PK not bet then MKZ



Not to insult you but...You need to re-read the post.
I never said PK wasn't better the MDZ, I asked how much better and in my eye's he's not 4 millin dollars better then what MDZ got which is 2.55 per year.

Subban is not Duncan Keith, Shea Weber or Drew Doughty good tus he deserves significantly les then them and like others before him two year deal is plenty leading up to one more RFA contract before becoming UFA.

7 million Two years and 3.5 cap hit is plenty for Subban.
I may stretch it out to 8 mil but that would be the absolute max.
Meehan also represents MDZ so this will be interesting......
Dude, normally when you're out to lunch you offer to pick something up for the rest of us...

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01-13-2013, 02:10 PM
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Me thinks Meehan wants the kid to sign 2 years for the same amount or close to what WDZ signed. And that it's the kid that doesn't want to.

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01-13-2013, 02:25 PM
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I want Benn in Montreal.
Give them Leblanc 1st rounder and Gallagher
I'd do that.

Maybe Cole and a prospect and a 1st.

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01-13-2013, 02:31 PM
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I'd do that.

Maybe Cole and a prospect and a 1st.
Last thing we should be doing is dealing away picks. Vets? Sure. Picks no.

We should learn from the Leafs mistakes. Dealing away 1sts is a dumb thing to do. Even if Benn is wicked, no sense dealing away picks. Markov, Plekanec, Cole... those guys are okay to trade away but keep the picks.

Look at the Leafs, they got a top ten scorer last year and the deal is still considered a disaster. I've seen that movie before and I don't like Horror shows. No thanks.

If the Stars want to deal away Benn (they won't) that's fine. They can have all the vets they want and they can have Leblanc (don't know why they'd want him) but no picks....

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01-13-2013, 02:34 PM
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Any player we get in the 1st round, especially considering the likelihood of a low finish, will be just as good if not better than Benn.

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01-13-2013, 02:40 PM
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I think you guys might be underrating Benn a bit.

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01-13-2013, 02:41 PM
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Any player we get in the 1st round, especially considering the likelihood of a low finish, will be just as good if not better than Benn.
Not likely.

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01-13-2013, 02:43 PM
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I think you guys might be underrating Benn a bit.
You think? The guy is an up and coming power forward with great skill.

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01-13-2013, 02:44 PM
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Any player we get in the 1st round, especially considering the likelihood of a low finish, will be just as good if not better than Benn.
What? No. A pratically PPG 6'3 center is worth more than a late 1st round pick. A lot more.

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01-13-2013, 02:46 PM
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You think? The guy is an up and coming power forward with great skill.
The guy had the chance to play with a very good playmaker, Ribeiro. We will see how he does this year with Derek Roy.

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01-13-2013, 02:47 PM
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The guy had the chance to play with a very good playmaker, Ribeiro. We will see how he does this year with Derek Roy.
Unless the guy we get is called Barkov, Lindholm, Mackinnon, he will be better for sure.

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01-13-2013, 02:53 PM
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#Habs Gionta on Subban situation: "Guys in the room are content with what’s here & we’ll move on. We’re professionals for a reason..." 1/2

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#Habs Gionta on Subban situation: "(Pro players are) able to handle the business side of the game. If you can’t, you shouldn’t be here" 2/2

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01-13-2013, 02:57 PM
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#Habs Gionta on Subban situation: "Guys in the room are content with what’s here & we’ll move on. We’re professionals for a reason..." 1/2

Dave Stubbs ‏@Dave_Stubbs
#Habs Gionta on Subban situation: "(Pro players are) able to handle the business side of the game. If you can’t, you shouldn’t be here" 2/2


Seems to me those quotes are about Gomez.

And talk about talking a lot but saying little of substance.

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01-13-2013, 02:58 PM
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#Habs Gionta is NOT hammering Subban, btw: Merely saying team practises w/ who's in the room. Gomez departure was a personal blow, yes...
http://twitter.com/Dave_Stubbs/statu...63305699934209

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01-13-2013, 03:15 PM
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I'd do that.

Maybe Cole and a prospect and a 1st.
That sounds pretty good too. It can be the 2014 1st round pick

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01-13-2013, 03:23 PM
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The guy had the chance to play with a very good playmaker, Ribeiro. We will see how he does this year with Derek Roy.
Yes, the 8 minutes Benn and Riberio played together last year was crucial to Benn's success.

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01-13-2013, 03:25 PM
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Anyway guys, i remeber reading a article about Benn saying he would not want to play in Canada because of the media. So forget it, boys.

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01-13-2013, 03:27 PM
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Last thing we should be doing is dealing away picks. Vets? Sure. Picks no.

We should learn from the Leafs mistakes. Dealing away 1sts is a dumb thing to do. Even if Benn is wicked, no sense dealing away picks. Markov, Plekanec, Cole... those guys are okay to trade away but keep the picks.

Look at the Leafs, they got a top ten scorer last year and the deal is still considered a disaster. I've seen that movie before and I don't like Horror shows. No thanks.

If the Stars want to deal away Benn (they won't) that's fine. They can have all the vets they want and they can have Leblanc (don't know why they'd want him) but no picks....
I have no problem dealing a 1st for a proven commodity like Benn. You'd hope that a 1st could turn into a Benn after a few years after he's drafted. Benn is that, now.

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01-13-2013, 04:24 PM
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Benn has publicly stated that he prefers the anonymity in Dallas than he would in a Canadian city.

Also, the proposals to rip Dallas off is hilarious. Sure, Gainey is there and all, but come on, people.


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01-13-2013, 04:36 PM
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I'd do that.

Maybe Cole and a prospect and a 1st.
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That sounds pretty good too. It can be the 2014 1st round pick
Did you ever think that the Stars wouldn't want to trade one of their best forwards for a 35 year old Cole?

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01-13-2013, 04:43 PM
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This came fromm the Admin LARider on Sportsnet forum.

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Subban's Agent, Don Meehan is based out here in Southern California, and also represents Drew Doughty, the Kings great D-Man. Don has a VERY good relationship with the Kings well-respected Hockey Writer, Helene Elliott.

And Helene has said she THINKS they are looking for "Doughty money" about $7 Million a Year, 7 or 8 Years, for PK.

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01-13-2013, 04:46 PM
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I think he's one contract away from getting the big, multi-year, $7+ million dollar contract. At $5 million or $5.5 million, over 3-4 years, that would be the most I see Bergevin going for. At least now with Gomez's money off the books next season, it will be less of a bitter pill to swallow.

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01-13-2013, 04:53 PM
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This came fromm the Admin LARider on Sportsnet forum.
If it' the case, then we won't see PK this Winter.

But it doesn't make much sense. Just another sick rumor.

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01-13-2013, 04:55 PM
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If it' the case, then we won't see PK this Winter.

But it doesn't make much sense. Just another sick rumor.
Bobby Mac earlier on SportsCenter (TSN) made it seem like the main problem is length, with PK looking for a really long term and the Habs looking for a 2 year deal.

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