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01-13-2013, 02:09 PM
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I think he was technically the 4th string goalie behind Sparks for Team USA, but do you think he might be able to make it as either starter or back up in the coming U20?

I mean, both Gibson and Sparks will be 20 before then. So Gillies vs Stolarz?

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01-13-2013, 02:15 PM
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I think he was technically the 4th string goalie behind Sparks for Team USA, but do you think he might be able to make it as either starter or back up in the coming U20?

I mean, both Gibson and Sparks will be 20 before then. So Gillies vs Stolarz?
Gillies has a leg up. Collin Olson will also be in the running.

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01-13-2013, 02:37 PM
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Gillies has a leg up. Collin Olson will also be in the running.
It all depends what Stolarz does with London. If he tears it up there, you can pretty much bet he'll be on the radar as a possible starter for the USA WJC team. Even if Stolarz doesn't make Team USA next year, he's going to end up with quality one on one time with London's goaltending coach. To me, that's more important than making the WJC.

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As it stands right now, Gillies is the favorite to win the job because he made the team last year, and outperformed Stolarz and Olson quite easily in college this year, despite playing in a more difficult conference. Gillies' numbers blow Stolarz and Olson's numbers out of the water. Another name to look out for is Thatcher Demko, BC recruit and the best 1995 goalie the USA has. I see it as a race between Gillies(favorite), and Stolarz/Demko to unseat him.

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Thatcher Demko (BC Recruit) is also in the running.

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01-13-2013, 08:07 PM
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Nick Cousins having a good year 2nd in league scoring putting up some nice numbers 17 G 49 A 66 Pts 17 +/- 48 pims in 44 gms.

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Nick Cousins having a good year 2nd in league scoring putting up some nice numbers 17 G 49 A 66 Pts 17 +/- 48 pims in 44 gms.
I wonder what type of role he can have for us in the Future.

He will never be able to get a top 6 role for us simply because we will have too much talent, but could he be a 3rd liner? 3rd line winger?

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I wonder what type of role he can have for us in the Future.

He will never be able to get a top 6 role for us simply because we will have too much talent, but could he be a 3rd liner? 3rd line winger?
Why limit him to that? If he's good enough, he's good enough. Besides Homer could trade everyone not named Giroux next year to get his hands on Weber.

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01-13-2013, 09:13 PM
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I wonder what type of role he can have for us in the Future.

He will never be able to get a top 6 role for us simply because we will have too much talent, but could he be a 3rd liner? 3rd line winger?
By the time he's ready to make the jump to the NHL things could change in the top 6. But even if they don't I think he and Laughton with a player like Simmonds on the other wing would be a nightmare to play against.

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Why limit him to that? If he's good enough, he's good enough. Besides Homer could trade everyone not named Giroux next year to get his hands on Weber.
I wouldn't say limit him but going forward i dont see him beating out Hartnell, Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier, Schenn or Read.

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01-13-2013, 09:14 PM
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I think it was Bill M and others around here. I don't think the way Cousins offense is in juniors will move onto the pros. Like usually junior scorers who have one good trait (like really good at scoring or really good at passing) can become a good offensive threat in pros. For a player like Cousins though, his main attribute is agitating players. His offense isnt too bad, but I dont think his scoring or passing skills is elite enough to pass onto pros.

My opinion of course but I did read that from a few other people. (I think Bill M was one of them)

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01-13-2013, 09:39 PM
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I think if Cousins doesn't bust, he can be a 30-40 pt winger who annoys the hell out of opposing players and fans.

Would be wonderful.

Seriously, people in the OHL despise him haha.

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I think it was Bill M and others around here. I don't think the way Cousins offense is in juniors will move onto the pros. Like usually junior scorers who have one good trait (like really good at scoring or really good at passing) can become a good offensive threat in pros. For a player like Cousins though, his main attribute is agitating players. His offense isnt too bad, but I dont think his scoring or passing skills is elite enough to pass onto pros.

My opinion of course but I did read that from a few other people. (I think Bill M was one of them)
I haven't seen much of him this year, but last year Cousins did display some very good passing skills, vision and creativity. He's also got a scoring touch. He doesn't have blazing straightaway speed, but he's shifty and quick. I think he might be able to contribute some offense at the NHL level, if he makes it. He's an agitator, but it only works because he backs it up with point production. He's not a fighter at all, just a weasel (and I mean that in a good way - the other teams are always trying to kill him).

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I think if Cousins doesn't bust, he can be a 30-40 pt winger who annoys the hell out of opposing players and fans.

Would be wonderful.

Seriously, people in the OHL despise him haha.
sounds like our future version of marchand.

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Would be wonderful.

Seriously, people in the OHL despise him haha.
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I haven't seen much of him this year, but last year Cousins did display some very good passing skills, vision and creativity. He's also got a scoring touch. He doesn't have blazing straightaway speed, but he's shifty and quick. I think he might be able to contribute some offense at the NHL level, if he makes it. He's an agitator, but it only works because he backs it up with point production. He's not a fighter at all, just a weasel (and I mean that in a good way - the other teams are always trying to kill him).
If he makes the NHL I do think 30-40 points will be his average range. I guess I was more quelling anyone thinking he might be a log guy since he is a 80+ guy in juniors (no one said that and he might be but I doubt it)

Side note Michael Parks has come back from an injury. He is playing on UND's second line. Has 2 goals in 3 games. He was out for awhile with a lower body injury.

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sounds like our future version of marchand.
My first thought was Ott, though

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By the time he's ready to make the jump to the NHL things could change in the top 6. But even if they don't I think he and Laughton with a player like Simmonds on the other wing would be a nightmare to play against.
Oh my that line is fantastic to imagine.

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01-13-2013, 11:56 PM
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I think Cousins will defo be an NHL player one day, even if he does not have the Offence to be a top two line player, he will surely be a third liner. I was, and to an extent still am, far more worried about Akeson making it to the NHL, as up until 6months ago he was the kind of player where if he was not on 2nd or 1st would not be ever in the NHL, but now he seems to have worked hard on his flaws and could be a 3rd liner in time if Offence does not continue to develop.

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I think Cousins will defo be an NHL player one day, even if he does not have the Offence to be a top two line player, he will surely be a third liner. I was, and to an extent still am, far more worried about Akeson making it to the NHL, as up until 6months ago he was the kind of player where if he was not on 2nd or 1st would not be ever in the NHL, but now he seems to have worked hard on his flaws and could be a 3rd liner in time if Offence does not continue to develop.
Akeson probably won't be making it. He is getting passed over by Laughton and from the looks of it McGinn and possibly Noebels. Throw in Cousins soon, and there will not much room in the bottom six for him.

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sounds like our future version of marchand.
Minus the speed, but yes otherwise.

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Minus the speed, but yes otherwise.
Bill, how do you think the whole you know what situation will affect his time with the organization? Let's say he get gets minimum punishment like probation or community service, or spends a very small amount of time in prison like Khabby did for his impaired driving.

Do you think he will be given less of a shot because of PR, or do you think the organization will avoid putting off ice conduct with on ice?

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Akeson probably won't be making it. He is getting passed over by Laughton and from the looks of it McGinn and possibly Noebels. Throw in Cousins soon, and there will not much room in the bottom six for him.
I think most of those guys you listed are best suited for bottom 6 roles whereas Akeson is better suited for a top 6 spot with the right line-mates. A couple yrs down the line, who knows, we might see a Akeson-Couturier-Schenn 2nd line or something (they played well together on the Phantoms). to me if he can round out his game a bit more that line could have a nice mix of size, physicality/toughness and offensive flare. to me Akeson is a complimentary piece so to speak, he'll work best with the right line-mates. just a thought

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I think most of those guys you listed are best suited for bottom 6 roles whereas Akeson is better suited for a top 6 spot with the right line-mates. A couple yrs down the line, who knows, we might see a Akeson-Couturier-Schenn 2nd line or something (they played well together on the Phantoms). to me if he can round out his game a bit more that line could have a nice mix of size, physicality/toughness and offensive flare. to me Akeson is a complimentary piece so to speak, he'll work best with the right line-mates. just a thought
You might be right but the Flyers top 6 is currently set for awhile. They might trade someone, but they might also sign someone like Corey Perry this offseason or trade for Bobby Ryan, who I think will be a Flyer at some point. Plus any forward taken in the 1st rd will bump him down. The longer he is in the AHL, the less likely he will make it as a top 6 forward.

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Bill, how do you think the whole you know what situation will affect his time with the organization? Let's say he get gets minimum punishment like probation or community service, or spends a very small amount of time in prison like Khabby did for his impaired driving.

Do you think he will be given less of a shot because of PR, or do you think the organization will avoid putting off ice conduct with on ice?
Zolnierczyk did something stupid when he was young too (check out his wikipedia page for the info). Mind you, it was before he was in the organization, but they seemed to have kept it off the ice

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