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01-14-2013, 01:18 PM
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I'm not sure he gets bought out this summer if he flounders again. I think they'd give him one more year to be absolutely sure.

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I'm not sure he gets bought out this summer if he flounders again. I think they'd give him one more year to be absolutely sure.
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Is going to be a wonky season. Its going to be hard to adjust/gel/judge with no training camp and impacted games.

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his play in the khl was icing on my "i new it" cake
he plays in the NHL
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You can keep posting that, but it doesn't make his bad streak last year any less concerning, especially when he had another bad streak for apparently many of the same reasons in a lower-quality league. Once is a fluke. Two years in a row? That's becoming a trend.

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Is going to be a wonky season. Its going to be hard to adjust/gel/judge with no training camp and impacted games.

Indeed. He will probably also need a couple weeks to readjust to NHL ice size, though one would hope that would be easy for him since he's played so many games in the league.

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i bet you 500 of vcash that he has a great season.

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i bet you 500 of vcash that he has a great season.
What is vcash? Is it real money because if it is no thanks because I am not a better. And what would be a great season? Stanely Cup final, just making the playoffs?

IMHO I think he falters again. Getting pulled a few times this season and actually think he will be pulled more times then he will have shut outs. I think he loses his starting job at least once. I think we will make the playoffs just because the East is so weak, I also think we would make the playoffs with ML or Boosh. I think he will continue to have stupid interviews with the media. I do think he will have a stretch of 2 or 3 games where everyone will be praising him for his stellar play only to follow it up with a 6/7 goal stinker. I also think he will absolutley collapse in the playoffs. I also think people will blame it on out defence for his poor performance. just my opinion. I also think that the Flyers will definatley buy him out before the amnesty buy out period ends.

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But his childish attitude (the pick of the thermous) during the winter classic. His stupid incoherent interviews with the media, its not even funny. They way he acted on 24/7, Jagr getting up and leaving the table when Bryz sat down with him to eat. All of it just disgusting. Other teams know our goaltending is out weakest link AGAIN and are laughing and exploiting it.
really ? interviews ?
really ??

none of these were issues in March last year, or against the Devils in the playoffs. This is 2013. If Bryz performs like March last year for a good portion of this year, "24/7" from 2011 will matter even less.

who cares. how many times have you re-watched 24/7 to hate on Bryz off the ice ? it's silly.

i just want him to keep quiet & stop the puck. i don't care what was on HBO 14 months ago.

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What is vcash? Is it real money because if it is no thanks because I am not a better. And what would be a great season? Stanely Cup final, just making the playoffs?

IMHO I think he falters again. Getting pulled a few times this season and actually think he will be pulled more times then he will have shut outs. I think he loses his starting job at least once. I think we will make the playoffs just because the East is so weak, I also think we would make the playoffs with ML or Boosh. I think he will continue to have stupid interviews with the media. I do think he will have a stretch of 2 or 3 games where everyone will be praising him for his stellar play only to follow it up with a 6/7 goal stinker. I also think he will absolutley collapse in the playoffs. I also think people will blame it on out defence for his poor performance. just my opinion. I also think that the Flyers will definatley buy him out before the amnesty buy out period ends.
wussie. can't put your vcash where your mouth is huh? obviously i was kidding. just calm down and enjoy. hockey's back. release the hate you have for bryz. I honestly don't think there's been one player ever on the flyers that i hated so bad that i didn't root for him cept maybe peter nedved but come on, nobody likes nedved.

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btw, spudnick....who DO you want in goal? who can we get that would be better? and saying anybody is a copout.

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a goalie with a better personality, i assume.
or lesser contract.

the only quality i need in our goalie: stop the puck. Bryz was clearly capable of that in March.

we need that more consistently this year & i will be rooting for that to happen.

i cannot fathom a true Flyers fan not hoping for that.

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btw, spudnick....who DO you want in goal? who can we get that would be better? and saying anybody is a copout.
Honestly I would have liked to keep Bob. I would love to have Luongo but just like Bryz the contract is horrible. I would love to trade for Bernier or maybe take Thomas on a 2 year deal. Like I said I dont hate Bryz as a person, not big on his interviews although the media eggs him on. Its his contract that bothers me. If he was on a 2 year contract at 2 to 3 million fine. I just cant imagine being hindered by a 5.6 million dollar contract for 7 more years after this one even if he has a good season. How many goalie play till 40? After next season he will have 40% of his contract paid out with 6 more years at 5.6 per. If he decides to retire at 36/37 and become an astronaught and live in the russian space station then we still have a cap hit of 5.6 no matter what. Thats why I think the Flyers will buy him out no matter how he plays if not this summer next summer because of the reasons I stated. Personally I would rather buy him out this summer and move on.

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personally, i'd rather he repeat March last year for a majority of the season & hoist the CUP

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Honestly I would have liked to keep Bob. I would love to have Luongo but just like Bryz the contract is horrible. I would love to trade for Bernier or maybe take Thomas on a 2 year deal. Like I said I dont hate Bryz as a person, not big on his interviews although the media eggs him on. Its his contract that bothers me. If he was on a 2 year contract at 2 to 3 million fine. I just cant imagine being hindered by a 5.6 million dollar contract for 7 more years after this one even if he has a good season. How many goalie play till 40? After next season he will have 40% of his contract paid out with 6 more years at 5.6 per. If he decides to retire at 36/37 and become an astronaught and live in the russian space station then we still have a cap hit of 5.6 no matter what. Thats why I think the Flyers will buy him out no matter how he plays if not this summer next summer because of the reasons I stated. Personally I would rather buy him out this summer and move on.
first of all your opinion is very common. and to be honest, i was surprised by what we did with bob too. but i do not think of bryzgalov the same way. I feel he is an elite goalie that is in his prime and was given that contract because they do think he will be good until he is 40, similar to a thomas or roloson. I think he started off playin well and was derailed by the team around him, causing him to lose confidence which then became an issue that was on him to deal with. I also saw him battle back and play the way he should play but don't pretend that this team is a defensive team. we are not which will cause any goalie problems. I think lavi will get fired for failing to adjust and bryz will be a casualty of that. but i don't hope for it to happen.

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01-14-2013, 04:14 PM
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So please explain the reason for his brutal play for 95% of last season as well as his play for the majority of his time in the KHL being relegagted to 3rd string.
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Bryz did actually struggle for most of his time in the KHL. He was on the third string and getting little playing time because he was just not good. Some of the more extended video I saw showed him struggling with the exact same stuff he struggled with here; failing to track the puck, letting in unscreened shots from the blue line, poor movement, etc. His positioning was off at times but I wasn't terribly concerned about that because of the larger ice size. Still, it raises red flags and indicates last year might not be as flukey as thought. Like Fleury, can we expect to see extended streaks of bad play?
Bryz was never 3rd string, he was battling it out with Stana. Proskuryakov seems to be a shootout specialist, that's why he's always the backup that comes in whenever there's a shootout, regardless of how well the starter played.

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Bryz was never 3rd string, he was battling it out with Stana. Proskuryakov seems to be a shootout specialist, that's why he's always the backup that comes in whenever there's a shootout, regardless of how well the starter played.
oh, you and your darn facts ... ruined a completely hilarious 'I hate Bryz & will root against him' rant ....

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Oh, and by that I didn't mean Proskuraykov is a crap goalie that's only good in shootouts. You can check his stats, and you'll see he had a respectable save percentage in his first years with Metallurg Magnitogorsk. Since he moved on, he does seem to be posting worse numbers, but he's still staying above .900.

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Bryz was never 3rd string, he was battling it out with Stana. Proskuryakov seems to be a shootout specialist, that's why he's always the backup that comes in whenever there's a shootout, regardless of how well the starter played.
He lost that battle for a long time. It was only for the last month where he came out on top. Stana was the clear starter for close to 2/3 of Bryz's time there. Stana was also putting up unreal numbers though, so even if Bryz had played better he likely still wouldn't have been starter. However, Bryz wasn't playing better...he was floundering. Again.

Edit: For at least the first month, I recall Proskuryakov getting more starts than Bryz and putting up better numbers than Bryz. There was indeed a period of time where Bryz was third string, not dressing for games. he started with 2 bad games and then sat for a bit.

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oh, you and your darn facts ... ruined a completely hilarious 'I hate Bryz & will root against him' rant ....
The only thing "hilarious" is how you read my post and got "I hate Bryz and will root against him" out of it.

I'm assuming you didn't even read it.


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The only thing "hilarious" is how you read my post and got "I hate Bryz and will root against him" out of it.

I'm assuming you didn't even read it.


hello last year re-runs...

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Hmmm. I'll allow youtube to answer.


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He lost that battle for a long time. It was only for the last month where he came out on top. Stana was the clear starter for close to 2/3 of Bryz's time there. Stana was also putting up unreal numbers though, so even if Bryz had played better he likely still wouldn't have been starter. However, Bryz wasn't playing better...he was floundering. Again.

Edit: For at least the first month, I recall Proskuryakov getting more starts than Bryz and putting up better numbers than Bryz. There was indeed a period of time where Bryz was third string, not dressing for games. he started with 2 bad games and then sat for a bit.



The only thing "hilarious" is how you read my post and got "I hate Bryz and will root against him" out of it.

I'm assuming you didn't even read it.
dude. it was russia. it was practice. screw there. its all about here. I'm just glad he went there to stay warm. it showed me he wanted to be in shape coming back. I'm sure cska wasn't gonna let him come in and disrupt them to the point where they started him every game anyway.

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.921 , 2.51 GAA , and 3 SO's. My prediction for this year.

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.921 , 2.51 GAA , and 3 SO's. My prediction for this year.
To have that save percentage and GAA, you are predicting that we are going to allow an average of 31.77 shots per game. That would put us 28 out of 30 last season as opposed to the 7 of 30 we actually were (28.4). I can't see our defense allowing that many shots.

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I might refine mine to:

.918 SV%, 2.39 GAA and 3 or 4 shutouts.

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why didnt u just add Giroux and Hartnell aswell..



in fact why not just include the entire roster for Loungo strait up..

basicly your initial trade offer was a date-****...

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