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01-14-2013, 11:57 AM
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So when do they hit the ice again today?

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01-14-2013, 12:04 PM
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It's frustrating to me that Jeffrey has no chance at cracking the top 12. Why is Adam's spot always cemented in place?


I already know the answer to that question haha.

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01-14-2013, 12:08 PM
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It's frustrating to me that Jeffrey has no chance at cracking the top 12. Why is Adam's spot always cemented in place?


I already know the answer to that question haha.
someone will get hurt. He needs to play his best hockey as soon as that happens. Or wait for Tangradi to make one mistake.

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01-14-2013, 12:10 PM
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someone will get hurt. He needs to play his best hockey as soon as that happens. Or wait for Tangradi to make one mistake.
For sure. The positive is that Shero hasn't signed any veteran 13th forwards like in seasons past. So we know that injuries will happen and Jeffrey will get his chances.

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01-14-2013, 12:23 PM
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It's frustrating to me that Jeffrey has no chance at cracking the top 12. Why is Adam's spot always cemented in place?


I already know the answer to that question haha.
Amen brother.

Adams is terrible at everything but the PK. He's never been a positive player for the Pens and his PK ability is easily replaceable. Do not tell me that DJ on the PK is a huge step down from Adams. Adam's IS a huge step down from DJ in 5v5 scoring.

Adams is great at making things hit him though....punches, checks, or pucks. He'll take them in stride.

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01-14-2013, 12:30 PM
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Amen brother.

Adams is terrible at everything but the PK. He's never been a positive player for the Pens and his PK ability is easily replaceable. Do not tell me that DJ on the PK is a huge step down from Adams. Adam's IS a huge step down from DJ in 5v5 scoring.

Adams is great at making things hit him though....punches, checks, or pucks. He'll take them in stride.
You are definitely correct. Adding Jeffrey to a line with Glass-Vitale gives you more offense and frankly, DJ is very defensively responsible (more so than Adams IMO other than shot blocking). Sure you lose a little grit, but Glass-Vitale provide enough of that IMO. Jeffrey is just a superior hockey player.

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01-14-2013, 12:33 PM
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Does anyone know what the D pairings are in practice today?

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01-14-2013, 12:35 PM
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Amen brother.

Adams is terrible at everything but the PK. He's never been a positive player for the Pens and his PK ability is easily replaceable. Do not tell me that DJ on the PK is a huge step down from Adams. Adam's IS a huge step down from DJ in 5v5 scoring.

Adams is great at making things hit him though....punches, checks, or pucks. He'll take them in stride.
The problem is that when it's game 6 of the divisional finals and we need a PK to close out the series, will DJ risk taking a slapshot from Kovalchuk in the face to block a shot?

Currently we only have two guys on the team who you can definitively say will. One is Vitale, and the other is Adams.

Adams frustrates me too, but you need that sort of player to win championships.

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01-14-2013, 12:40 PM
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You are definitely correct. Adding Jeffrey to a line with Glass-Vitale gives you more offense and frankly, DJ is very defensively responsible (more so than Adams IMO other than shot blocking). Sure you lose a little grit, but Glass-Vitale provide enough of that IMO. Jeffrey is just a superior hockey player.
If shero got rid of adams there would be alot of pissed off people in that locker room after what adams did for the players during the lockout. Its better to keep him just to keep peace in the locker room

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The problem is that when it's game 6 of the divisional finals and we need a PK to close out the series, will DJ risk taking a slapshot from Kovalchuk in the face to block a shot?

Currently we only have two guys on the team who you can definitively say will. One is Vitale, and the other is Adams.

Adams frustrates me too, but you need that sort of player to win championships.
Adams is at best our 4th best PKer behind Cooke, Dupuis and Sutter. I also have a hard time believing there is anything Adams is willing to do that Glass won't.

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If shero got rid of adams there would be alot of pissed off people in that locker room after what adams did for the players during the lockout. Its better to keep him just to keep peace in the locker room
I'd keep him. I just think he should be the 13th forward if he gets outplayed by Jeffrey.

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01-14-2013, 12:46 PM
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I wouldn't mind seeing Geno get the odd look on the PK. Or Sid for that matter.

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01-14-2013, 12:53 PM
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If shero got rid of adams there would be alot of pissed off people in that locker room after what adams did for the players during the lockout. Its better to keep him just to keep peace in the locker room
I never said get rid of Adams. He should be the 13th forward.

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01-14-2013, 12:57 PM
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Does anyone know what the D pairings are in practice today?
Despres started with Letang. They've already been nicknamed the Dejan Dream Pairing.

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01-14-2013, 01:03 PM
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All this talk about Tangradi's skating and no specifics makes me sad.

Since I spent a good portion of yesterday's practice watching Tangradi I will give it a go. Those true students of the game, feel free to correct me if necessary.

Start with the positives:
Tangradi has excellent top-end speed for a big man, especially a 230 pounder. At speed he has good "edges", and can make tight turns and quick stops, hence he is also reasonably agile. At speed on the rush, he has no problem keeping up with our world class skating franchise Centers.

Now the negatives: Tangradi has issues when not at speed. He is not very agile or quick with his stop and start skating in tight spaces, and he also has a ways to go with his lateral aglity. It usually takes several strides for him to really get going. The thing that pains me, is just how awkward he looks when not skating with any kind of speed and trying to play the puck. I think this draws a lot of critiscm from less informed posters.

So how did I do pinch hitting for the Geno Machine guys?

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01-14-2013, 01:05 PM
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All this talk about Tangradi's skating and no specifics makes me sad.

Since I spent a good portion of yesterday's practice watching Tangradi I will give it a go. Those true students of the game, feel free to correct me if necessary.

Start with the positives:
Tangradi has excellent top-end speed for a big man, especially a 230 pounder. At speed he has good "edges", and can make tight turns and quick stops, hence he is also reasonably agile. At speed on the rush, he has no problem keeping up with our world class skating franchise Centers.

Now the negatives: Tangradi has issues when not at speed. He is not very agile or quick with his stop and start skating in tight spaces, and he also has a ways to go with his lateral aglity. It usually takes several strides for him to really get going. The thing that pains me, is just how awkward he looks when not skating with any kind of speed and trying to play the puck. I think this draws a lot of critiscm from less informed posters.

So how did I do pinch hitting for the Geno Machine guys?
Can't speak for the pinch hit, but what you wrote was informative and absent snark and appreciated.

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01-14-2013, 01:08 PM
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Bold prediction: Eric Tangradi in the top-6 experiment will not end well.

The guy hasn't even proved an ability to be a solid NHL'er, yet they think he can step into an offensive role right away?

Don't get me wrong - I would love to see him succeed, but the realist in me knows that it just isn't going to work.

Tangradi is like groundhogs day around here... every year folks get excited and pencil him into a top-6 role before he's ready, then they act surprised when he doesn't succeed and gets demoted back to the 4th line / WBS.

He seems like a great kid so it's tough to see him not succeed, but it's a production oriented business and I question whether Tangradi has the tools to be successful in the NHL.

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01-14-2013, 01:14 PM
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Geno Machino, Hfboards is confusing and at times fun to be reckless and say stupid things. It is okay to make sense every now and again though, keeps things interesting.

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01-14-2013, 01:15 PM
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Bold prediction: Eric Tangradi in the top-6 experiment will not end well.

The guy hasn't even proved an ability to be a solid NHL'er, yet they think he can step into an offensive role right away?

Don't get me wrong - I would love to see him succeed, but the realist in me knows that it just isn't going to work.

Tangradi is like groundhogs day around here... every year folks get excited and pencil him into a top-6 role before he's ready, then they act surprised when he doesn't succeed and gets demoted back to the 4th line / WBS.

He seems like a great kid so it's tough to see him not succeed, but it's a production oriented business and I question whether Tangradi has the tools to be successful in the NHL.
I wouldn't exactly call that a 'bold' prediction.

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01-14-2013, 01:18 PM
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For anybody else wondering about scrimmage being on tv.

https://twitter.com/RobRossi_Trib/st...97080849936384

pens 24/7 HD radio and @ROOTSPORTSPIT will broadcast scrimmage Wednesday



#Pens PP has Neal and Letang on points, Kunitz-Crosby-Malkin down low

https://twitter.com/penguins/status/290898494011609089



Neal at the point of pp? Definitely didn't see that coming

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just posted this in the other thread

#Oilers acquire defenceman Mark Fistric from the Dallas Stars in exchange for a third-round selection in the 2013 #NHLDraft

good deal for oilers

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01-14-2013, 01:21 PM
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For anybody else wondering about scrimmage being on tv.

https://twitter.com/RobRossi_Trib/st...97080849936384

pens 24/7 HD radio and @ROOTSPORTSPIT will broadcast scrimmage Wednesday



#Pens PP has Neal and Letang on points, Kunitz-Crosby-Malkin down low

https://twitter.com/penguins/status/290898494011609089



Neal at the point of pp? Definitely didn't see that coming
huh, interesting. I guess Sid wins priority of the below the circle shooter.

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Bold prediction: Eric Tangradi in the top-6 experiment will not end well.

The guy hasn't even proved an ability to be a solid NHL'er, yet they think he can step into an offensive role right away?

Don't get me wrong - I would love to see him succeed, but the realist in me knows that it just isn't going to work.

Tangradi is like groundhogs day around here... every year folks get excited and pencil him into a top-6 role before he's ready, then they act surprised when he doesn't succeed and gets demoted back to the 4th line / WBS.

He seems like a great kid so it's tough to see him not succeed, but it's a production oriented business and I question whether Tangradi has the tools to be successful in the NHL.
He hasn't been given a real opportunity to succeed in a top 6 role either. Hopefully, this year he gets an extended look. Then it's all on him.

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just posted this in the other thread

#Oilers acquire defenceman Mark Fistric from the Dallas Stars in exchange for a third-round selection in the 2013 #NHLDraft

good deal for oilers
Yeah that seems like a solid deal. Their d no longer looks pathetic.

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just posted this in the other thread

#Oilers acquire defenceman Mark Fistric from the Dallas Stars in exchange for a third-round selection in the 2013 #NHLDraft

good deal for oilers
himmmm, dallas is going to need a d-man.

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Yeah that seems like a solid deal. Their d no longer looks pathetic.
Was Fistric not the guy that Shero asked for along with Neal originally?

Ive been a fan of him since the Giants. A bit slow but a good 3rd pairing d-man who plays fairly physical

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