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Flames expected to re-sign Jarome Iginla

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01-14-2013, 05:53 PM
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Hilarious....the flames are just going to continue to slide into greater obscurity over the coming seasons by holding onto decaying players and getting nothing in return...honestly, this team would be so depressing to follow knowing how bleak their future is.....

If the management had any brains, trade Iggy and Kipper in the next 6 months while they have some value....they are literally heading in the other direction by retaining their 2 best players and getting nothing in return.....and this is a team that is very poor going forward even with those 2.....astounding.......I am sure the many flame fans are not very happy getting nothing for 2 declining stars......

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01-14-2013, 05:55 PM
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Do you trust that Feaster can pull off amazing trades, sign elite FA's and draft well in the 15 to 20's to eliminate the need for a complete rebuild.
....he's doing a pretty good job of that so far. He's seems to be drafting well through the first four rounds, not just the 15-20 range.

Let's take a look at the results from the 2011 draft, so far:

Sven Baertschi
Markus Granlund
Tyler Wotherspoon
Jon Gadreau
Lauren Brossoit


Each and every single draft pick he chose is now playing well beyond their drafting position.

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01-14-2013, 05:55 PM
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Do you trust that Feaster can pull off amazing trades, sign elite FA's and draft well in the 15 to 20's to eliminate the need for a complete rebuild.
This is why Feaster is one of the best GMs in the league.

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01-14-2013, 05:58 PM
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....he's doing a pretty good job of that so far. He's seems to be drafting well through the first four rounds, not just the 15-20 range.

Let's take a look at the results from the 2011 draft, so far:

Sven Baertschi
Markus Granlund
Tyler Wotherspoon
Jon Gadreau
Lauren Brossoit


Each and every single draft pick he chose is now playing well beyond their drafting position.
He does seem to have recent draft success, but its waaay to early to determine if 2011 was a success, these guys are 2-3 years away. Most guys drafted in these rounds are bottom 6 players

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01-14-2013, 05:58 PM
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Iginla is a rare exception in this league. He's been with the Flames for his entire career, owns pretty much every Calgary Flames offensive record, is a hero in the city and the province, and is the leader -- heart and soul -- of the team. Trading him away is a difficult decision to make that not many other teams face. It's not as simple as Iginla being "just another asset".

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01-14-2013, 06:01 PM
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Iginla is a rare exception in this league. He's been with the Flames for his entire career, owns pretty much every Calgary Flames offensive record, is a hero in the city and the province, and is the leader -- heart and soul -- of the team. Trading him away is a difficult decision to make that not many other teams face. It's not as simple as Iginla being "just another asset".
Ehhhhhhh maybe the southern part of the province.

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01-14-2013, 06:04 PM
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Ehhhhhhh maybe the southern part of the province.
He was born in Edmonton, so I am sure there must be a few Edmontonians that like the guy!

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01-14-2013, 06:05 PM
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This kills any chance of a decent rebuild the Flames had. It is going to be a long long time to get that team fixed. They are an older group that has very minimal when it comes to high end prospects.
This is absolutly wrong, if you draft right and sign the right FAs you can get rebuild without trading any big names.

I take Tampa as an example, as I am a Tampa fan and follow them a lot

They traded no big name of their franchise in the last 4 years and with 5 great draft years and some decent undrafted signees we are ready to go big in a year 2 .
we have at least 3 guys out of every draft with good/great NHL upside and signed along with 3 great FA signings (Conacher, Johnson, Korobov) and Gauthier is starting to show big promise in the AHL as well.
Well their biggest trade was Downey to Col for a first rounder from Det (3team-trade) and they are only a year or 2 away from contention.

Yes if you trade yor stars the rebuild is quicker but its very important to have a face of your franchise who can carry the young guys and so on, I would be as happy with Iginla retiring in Calgary as a flames fans, as I am with Lecavalier playing his entire hockey life in Tampa ( and yes I think he is overpaid)

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01-14-2013, 06:07 PM
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Until I see his name on a new contract I wouldn't rule anything out. Especially if as expected the Flames miss the playoffs again, don't expect him to just resign.

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01-14-2013, 06:08 PM
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He does seem to have recent draft success, but its waaay to early to determine if 2011 was a success, these guys are 2-3 years away. Most guys drafted in these rounds are bottom 6 players
Baertschi is not 2-3 years away. He'll probably play a significant portion of time with the big club this year.

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This is absolutly wrong, if you draft right and sign the right FAs you can get rebuild without trading any big names.

I take Tampa as an example, as I am a Tampa fan and follow them a lot

They traded no big name of their franchise in the last 4 years and with 5 great draft years and some decent undrafted signees we are ready to go big in 2 seasons.
we have at least 3 guys out of every draft with good/great NHL upside and signed along with 3 great FA signings (Conacher, Johnson, Korobov) and Gauthier is starting to show big promise in the AHL as well.
Well their biggest trade was Downey to Col for a first rounder from Det (3team-trade) and they are only a year or 2 away from contention.

Yes if you trade yor stars the rebuild is quicker but its very important to have a face of your franchise who can carry the young guys and so on, I would be as happy with Iginla retiring in Calgary as a flames fans, as I am with Lecavalier playing his entire hockey life in Tampa ( and yes I think he is overpaid)
Tampa drafted Stamkos first and Hedman second, even with the big players they got good picks.

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As someone that's spent some time in Calgary, this is not your typical veteran that you can just flip for youth. He's constantly on TV there, you see his jersey 5:1 to anyone else (maybe more) and it's not unusual to meet someone with a kid named "Jarome" or "Iggy."

He is the Flames. Not re-signing him would have a tremendous negative impact on the city.

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01-14-2013, 06:16 PM
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Attaboy Jarome.

Then its off the ice and into an office.

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I don`t really get why we are making fun Feaster for this. I mean, I get generally making fun of Feaster and I get wanting Iginla to win a Stanley Cup, but I don`t get making fun of Feaster for giving his captain an offer, if what he wants to do is re-sign. If Iggy wants to become a different type of legend, the one not winning a Cup but being a one team guy, are we really expecting Feaster to force him out? Isn`t that ridiculous in the extreme?

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01-14-2013, 06:19 PM
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I don`t really get why we are making fun Feaster for this. I mean, I get generally making fun of Feaster and I get wanting Iginla to win a Stanley Cup, but I don`t get making fun of Feaster for giving his captain an offer, if what he wants to do is re-sign. If Iggy wants to become a different type of legend, the one not winning a Cup but being a one team guy, are we really expecting Feaster to force him out? Isn`t that ridiculous in the extreme?
Sundin v2.0

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Except that Sundin wasn't re-signed. He walked for nothing. Sundin refused to waive his NTC.

Iggy has stated that he would do what's best for the team. So he'll either be re-signed or he'll willingly be traded at the deadline. Either way the Flames get something out of the deal.

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Good for Jarome, if he wants to re-sign then let him re-sign.

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01-14-2013, 06:31 PM
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well the plus side is you can miss the playoffs and still get a shot at the 1st overall now....slim but possible

dont have a problem with a team honoring a classy player like Iggy.


but take out jarome miika in a about 3 yrs and what do you have??


are they going to get that topend FA?......... even with better drafting and some keys ones at that.....their prospect pool is still a long way off.......unless they beleive their big gamble 1st pick is going to be absolutly one of the best young players.....

The rebuild could take a long time.......and it was a bold move to trade a key beloved player in joe for jarome in the first place

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He doesn't have the balls to sign elsewhere if he becomes an FA because he seems too loyal/nice and Feaster doesn't have the balls to trade him.

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Except that Sundin wasn't re-signed.
Was referring to the attitude of some fans toward excellent players who did everything they could for a franchise.

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He does seem to have recent draft success, but its waaay to early to determine if 2011 was a success, these guys are 2-3 years away. Most guys drafted in these rounds are bottom 6 players
It's also way too early to determine if 2012 was a failure, but search the words "Mark Jankowski" and see what kind of things HF posters are saying about him.

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The rebuild could take a long time.......and it was a bold move to trade a key beloved player in joe for jarome in the first place
It really wasn't. Nieuwendyk demanded either more money or a trade, and the Flames couldn't afford to pay him at the time. Also, Iginla wasn't who they wanted to get in return - they wanted Todd Harvey, but the Stars wouldn't part with him.

The Flames don't need to trade everyone for "assets" - they need to start using the assets they have in a smarter manner. That means drafting the right players; developing those players properly; not wasting picks and prospects on quick fixes; spending wisely on the free-agent market; and hiring front-office personnel that can spot a player's strengths and weaknesses and use them in a manner that maximizes the former and minimizes the latter.

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Was referring to the attitude of some fans toward excellent players who did everything they could for a franchise.
Once again, Sundin walked on you guys in exchange for more money. He did not do everything he could for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

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Once again, Sundin walked on you guys in exchange for more money. He did not do everything he could for the Toronto Maple Leafs.
You're not getting it at all and i don't think i have the qualifications to get through.

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I thought he would pull a Bourque (not Rene) and go for a chance at a cup but you gotta respect him for loving the city he plays in.

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