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01-14-2013, 08:20 PM
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That's pretty much a bunch of crap maybe 12 dman are better than Subban right now and saying Weber is the best dman in the league is quite laughable Ryan Suter was better than him last year and is 5th.

Oliver ekman Larsson is nowhere better than Subban, the funny thing about Subban is people think that because he is a hab, habs fans tend to overrate him, the kid as been stellar last year keeping a plus minus even playing quality time on the top pk unit and contribuing on the pp. He is really an all around dman that can do it all not a lot of dman are as complete as Subban. He is not the best anywhere but is good everywhere.

Putting cambpell Timmonen, Enstrom and Johnson in front of him is nearly an insult.
Well, that's like, just your opinion, man.

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01-14-2013, 08:25 PM
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Subban holds more value than Edler. his ceiling is much higher than Edlers

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01-14-2013, 10:51 PM
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Well, that's like, just your opinion, man.
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01-14-2013, 10:57 PM
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Vancouver fans, why would you want to trade Edler for Subban?

Is Vancouver willing to give more $ to Subban than Montreal is right now?


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01-14-2013, 11:11 PM
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What is wrong with Subban for Burrows?
You were serious!?!?!?

When I read your comment I smiled and kept reading. Please... please tell me you were kidding............... Burrows wouldn't even get the conversation for Subban started unless you're going to be adding a couple of HUGE pluses.

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01-14-2013, 11:22 PM
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You were serious!?!?!?

When I read your comment I smiled and kept reading. Please... please tell me you were kidding............... Burrows wouldn't even get the conversation for Subban started unless you're going to be adding a couple of HUGE pluses.
He's the troll-master Habs *fan* on Hfboards. Please don't bite!

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01-14-2013, 11:22 PM
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No doubt. Recent HF poll. I'm not sure where Subban landed but he wasn't close to the top 21.
#1 - Shea Weber - Nashville Predators
#2 - Zdeno Chara - Boston Bruins
#3 - Erik Karlsson - Ottawa Senators
#4 - Alex Pietrangelo - St. Louis Blues
#5 - Ryan Suter - Nashville Predators
#6 - Nicklas Lidstrom - Detroit Red Wings (retired)
#7 - Kris Letang - Pittsburgh Penguins
#8 - Drew Doughty - Los Angeles Kings
#9 - Duncan Keith - Chicago Blackhawks
#10 - Keith Yandle - Phoenix Coyotes
#11 - Dan Boyle - San Jose Sharks
#12 - Alexander Edler - Vancouver Canucks
#13 - Brent Seabrook - Chicago Blackhawks
#14 - Brian Campbell - Florida Panthers
#15 - Oliver Ekman-Larsson - Phoenix Coyotes
#16 - Tobias Enstrom - Winnipeg Jets
#17 - Ryan McDonagh - New York Rangers
#18 - Kimmo Timonen - Philadelphia Flyers
#19 - Dan Girardi - New York Rangers
#20 - Erik Johnson - Colorado Avalanche
#21 - Marc Staal - New York Rangers
The fact that OEL is that low says it all.

You'd REALLY take someone time Enstrom or Timonen over Subban? I don't think so. Same with Boyle being so high... people are simply taking longer careers into account.

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01-14-2013, 11:25 PM
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You were serious!?!?!?

When I read your comment I smiled and kept reading. Please... please tell me you were kidding............... Burrows wouldn't even get the conversation for Subban started unless you're going to be adding a couple of HUGE pluses.
Ok i will tell you honestly: fall 2011 there was a thread about Burrows to Montreal and i was among the few one saying Subban for Burrows would be an overpayment and if Vancouver could, they should jump on this opportunity.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=962139

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Subban+Paciotty for Burrows+Alberts
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We're not saying Montreal would do that deal, what we're saying is hypothetically if offered (Which it won't be) The Canucks wouldn't do Burrows for Subban obviously around the league Subban has more value but to the Canucks organization Burrows is valued higher due to the position he plays and his role on the team.
So, time to time, like i did in this thread, i post the opposite of what i think, its the easiest way to get reply by people agreeing with what i think.


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01-14-2013, 11:27 PM
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That's pretty much a bunch of crap maybe 12 dman are better than Subban right now and saying Weber is the best dman in the league is quite laughable Ryan Suter was better than him last year and is 5th.

Oliver ekman Larsson is nowhere better than Subban, the funny thing about Subban is people think that because he is a hab, habs fans tend to overrate him, the kid as been stellar last year keeping a plus minus even playing quality time on the top pk unit and contribuing on the pp. He is really an all around dman that can do it all not a lot of dman are as complete as Subban. He is not the best anywhere but is good everywhere.

Putting cambpell Timmonen, Enstrom and Johnson in front of him is nearly an insult.


Weber is undoubtedly the best defenseman in the league. The only one who can even compare is Chara, who also happens to be something like 7 years older. Suter is a very good, but not even remotely close to top 3. I wouldn't even put him even top 5.

Weber, Chara, Karlsson, Pietrangelo and Doughty are all better than Suter now and in the future in my opinion. OEL will reach that level very soon.

Don't get me wrong, I'll defend Subban to my last breath (he's tied as my favourite player), however I think OEL is marginally better than Subban at this point. Although their potential is roughly equivalent in my eyes.

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01-14-2013, 11:30 PM
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Subban holds more value than Edler. his ceiling is much higher than Edlers
Bruins fan says Subban is more valuable. /thread

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01-14-2013, 11:37 PM
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Logan Couture is more valuble than Datsyuk. You won't see any Detroit fans jumping on that deal, let alone adding.

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01-14-2013, 11:39 PM
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Not sold on Edler being better than Subban right now.
It really isn't in question. Edler is better now.

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01-14-2013, 11:40 PM
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It really isn't in question. Edler is better now.
By now to you mean Now or last season?

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01-14-2013, 11:50 PM
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By now to you mean Now or last season?
Both.

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Both.
I am worried about Edler's back injury.

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I am worried about Edler's back injury.
He has been skating and playing fine at camp so far. All reports are that he's fine to start the season.

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01-15-2013, 12:03 AM
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He has been skating and playing fine at camp so far. All reports are that he's fine to start the season.
I had myself this kind of injury as a Badminton player.

I had to stop any competition, i can still play, but not as i did before, the pain is always there.

Edler will probably play every game under mild painkiller and anti-inflammatory medication.

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