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01-14-2013, 09:04 AM
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Zolnierczyk did something stupid when he was young too (check out his wikipedia page for the info). Mind you, it was before he was in the organization, but they seemed to have kept it off the ice
He was already with the org when it happened - I remember the lynch mob on here.

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01-14-2013, 09:16 AM
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You might be right but the Flyers top 6 is currently set for awhile. They might trade someone, but they might also sign someone like Corey Perry this offseason or trade for Bobby Ryan, who I think will be a Flyer at some point. Plus any forward taken in the 1st rd will bump him down. The longer he is in the AHL, the less likely he will make it as a top 6 forward.
agreed. little off topic but i don't think Flyers get Perry. Like every other big FA they'll probably try but i don't think he'll be a Flyer. Ryan on the other hand i think will at one point be a Flyer, i just hope he comes here as a UFA.

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01-14-2013, 01:06 PM
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He was already with the org when it happened - I remember the lynch mob on here.
Harry Z? No it was prior to his signing.

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01-14-2013, 01:12 PM
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He was already with the org when it happened - I remember the lynch mob on here.
What?

He was arrested in 2007.

He signed with the Flyers in 2011.

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01-14-2013, 01:38 PM
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I stand corrected.

Though that does make the faux-outrage over it on here even more disconcerting since it was 4 years after the fact.

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01-14-2013, 03:03 PM
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I stand corrected.

Though that does make the faux-outrage over it on here even more disconcerting since it was 4 years after the fact.
I don't think theer was any outrage (faux or otherwise) surrounding Harry Z. What he did was stupid but it was clearly not anything to be concerned about. IIRC it was that he sent pictures of an ex girlfriend or posted them online or something and they were of her when she was underage. Illegal, yes but nothing sinister. Certainly nothing like what Cousins is accused of.

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01-14-2013, 03:43 PM
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I don't think theer was any outrage (faux or otherwise) surrounding Harry Z. What he did was stupid but it was clearly not anything to be concerned about. IIRC it was that he sent pictures of an ex girlfriend or posted them online or something and they were of her when she was underage. Illegal, yes but nothing sinister. Certainly nothing like what Cousins is accused of.
There most definitely was - go search the board.

His FRIEND video taped himself with HIS girlfriend and streamed it to Z (whether or not Z had prior knowledge of the transaction at the time is unknown). There are RUMORS that he showed some teammates the video, but nothing concrete AFAIK, but even if he did... who wouldn't have done the same back in HS?

The whole thing was ridiculous... his friend was guilty of being a bad boyfriend and Z was guilty of being a normal HS boy, imo.

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01-14-2013, 04:07 PM
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There most definitely was - go search the board.

His FRIEND video taped himself with HIS girlfriend and streamed it to Z (whether or not Z had prior knowledge of the transaction at the time is unknown). There are RUMORS that he showed some teammates the video, but nothing concrete AFAIK, but even if he did... who wouldn't have done the same back in HS?

The whole thing was ridiculous... his friend was guilty of being a bad boyfriend and Z was guilty of being a normal HS boy, imo.
I think you're selling "HS boys" pretty short. What he did was wrong, and I would wager the majority of high schoolers would not have done the same thing.

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01-14-2013, 04:32 PM
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There most definitely was - go search the board.

His FRIEND video taped himself with HIS girlfriend and streamed it to Z (whether or not Z had prior knowledge of the transaction at the time is unknown). There are RUMORS that he showed some teammates the video, but nothing concrete AFAIK, but even if he did... who wouldn't have done the same back in HS?

The whole thing was ridiculous... his friend was guilty of being a bad boyfriend and Z was guilty of being a normal HS boy, imo.
What Harry Z did was pretty assholish, and what he did probably made high school pretty awful for that girl. That being said I can't say if I had such a video at that age I wouldn't show it to a few friends though I think now it would be wrong, and making it available online in any form is just a terrible idea.

What Cousins is accused of sounds much worse, but at this time I don't think anyone really knows anything about the case and no ruling has been made as I don't think a trial has even started yet.


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01-14-2013, 05:01 PM
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if the flyers are trying out scott laughton, why not bring up oliver lauridsen, i dont know why not try him out, maybe he'll provide some good d.

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01-14-2013, 05:03 PM
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We already have enough D in the NHL that are on one way deals.

Can't waive them without getting a cap penalty

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01-14-2013, 07:03 PM
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if the flyers are trying out scott laughton, why not bring up oliver lauridsen, i dont know why not try him out, maybe he'll provide some good d.
because he's not providing good d for the Phantoms

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01-14-2013, 07:22 PM
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because he's not providing good d for the Phantoms
Neither was Bourdon.

That being said Scooby Doo isn't necessary this year.

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01-14-2013, 07:48 PM
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Lauridsen leads the Phantoms in +/- by a mile with a +8. 17 players are a minus.

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Bourdon was thrown into a sink or swim situation and actually swam... That's an exception to the rule, not the rule... See: Marshall, K.

Granted, I do think there is some merit to the notion that a defensemen can be more successful in the NHL than the A. The forwards defensive support is miles better in the big league, and so is the overall system. It's not hard to believe that in a limited, sheltered role like 6D a decent prospect could be sufficient, like Bourdon.

I like Lauridsen, and I hope he can be an NHL player one day, and from the Phantoms games I've watched he's been a LOT better than people here are giving him credit for. Remember, the Phantoms are an overall disaster at the moment.

In spite of all that though, now is not his time.

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01-14-2013, 08:02 PM
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if the flyers are trying out scott laughton, why not bring up oliver lauridsen, i dont know why not try him out, maybe he'll provide some good d.
Our defense is already slow, no reason to make it slower.

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01-14-2013, 08:55 PM
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Lauridsen leads the Phantoms in +/- by a mile with a +8. 17 players are a minus.
Well in that case, why not bring him up?

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Well in that case, why not bring him up?
It was said that Lauridsen was not providing good defense for the Phantoms. I posted his impressive +/-. If you can point me to where in my post I gave an opinion regarding where he should be playing, I'd love to see it.

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01-14-2013, 09:30 PM
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It was said that Lauridsen was not providing good defense for the Phantoms. I posted his impressive +/-. If you can point me to where in my post I gave an opinion regarding where he should be playing, I'd love to see it.
He's shaking his head because +/- doesnt mean anything.

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01-14-2013, 09:35 PM
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It was said that Lauridsen was not providing good defense for the Phantoms. I posted his impressive +/-. If you can point me to where in my post I gave an opinion regarding where he should be playing, I'd love to see it.
+/- is useless.

Lilja finished as a +9 last year. Where is all that good defense he is providing?

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+/- is useless.

Lilja finished as a +9 last year. Where is all that good defense he is providing?
I agree to an extent, but I think you guys also need to ask yourself whether it's time to revise your opinions. +/- doesn't tell you how fast someone skates, but if someone has a positive value in that category, it means he was used effectively in EQ situations. Even if he was just a pylon that could be skated around at will, he must have provided something that led a team of only 4 able skaters to then score 9 more goals than the other teams that had 5 of them.

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+/- is useless.

Lilja finished as a +9 last year. Where is all that good defense he is providing?
It's one thing when the whole defense finishes around that. It's another when you're a +8 and everyone else is deep into minus territory.

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01-15-2013, 07:09 AM
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I've watched more then a few games this year and I have to say out of the currently active D-men we have down there Syvret has played all around the best followed closely by Lauridsen. I don't know where all this negativity surrounding him is coming form.

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...d=nhl:topheads

Well Seth Jones has taken over the #1 spot at the midterm for prospects.

Where is my boy Krishna at, Zadorov is ranked 30th for North American skaters, but Pulock is ranked 6th.

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I've watched more then a few games this year and I have to say out of the currently active D-men we have down there Syvret has played all around the best followed closely by Lauridsen. I don't know where all this negativity surrounding him is coming form.
Yeh, in the 7 and a half games I have seen (about, streams dried up after about november!) he looked better than most of the Phantoms D, only him, Syvret and Gus looked like they could actually play hockey!

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