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01-14-2013, 10:17 PM
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I would do something around Plekanac and Subban for benn. Plekanac will replace a lot of what you would lose in Benn and would love to play with Jagr. Subban will log big minutes which you really need. I think something should be added to Benn to even it out.

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01-14-2013, 11:56 PM
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I would do something around Plekanac and Subban for benn. Plekanac will replace a lot of what you would lose in Benn and would love to play with Jagr. Subban will log big minutes which you really need. I think something should be added to Benn to even it out.
We are not good trading partners. We need Benn's physicality and having two smallish centers- one of whom, Roy, is a UFA after this season and whose status as a Star beyond this season is still uncertain- does not bode well for us in a division (for however long this alignment lasts) that has bigger-sized players and seems to be getting tougher every year to compete in.

The Jagr connection won't work in the long term. He's not here for any longer than one more season at the most.

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01-15-2013, 12:06 AM
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Clarke MacArthur, Tyler Biggs and Carl Gunnarson for Benn
2nd line winger/50 point getter, 2011 1st rounder and current first line d man

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01-15-2013, 12:08 AM
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Clarke MacArthur, Tyler Biggs and Carl Gunnarson for Benn
2nd line winger/50 point getter, 2011 1st rounder and current first line d man
This may be the worst proposal in this thread yet.

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01-15-2013, 12:13 AM
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This may be the worst proposal in this thread yet.
Explain.

You've replaced 60/70 points for 85 for less money and another potential 50... so 2 years from now you have somewhere around 125 points/year for jamie benn's 70. seems like a trade to me

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01-15-2013, 12:14 AM
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Komeserek, Connoly, Liles, Bozak + 2nd round pick

You get 4 players + draft pick.

PMD, Big man who can bring leadership, Connoly has been playing on the checking line so lots of options, and Bozak to take #2 spot. Plus a pick in a deep draft.

Benn wants out obv, wants to go to a big market like Toronto.

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01-15-2013, 12:18 AM
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I noticed many people included Jamie Benn as a LW in their line ups. I think his potential will be maximized if he is in fact playing centre. He started breaking out the last couple years when he was moved to centre.
i think the opposite actually benn playing wing allows him to crash and bang better which is his style and hes always trying to be playmaker so that allows him to retrieve and make plays, i noticed when he plays centre he actually over backcheck which i guess isnt that bad but puts him out of position because hes always like behind our net when exiting the zone, i just hate when over backchecking actually becomes a problem

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01-15-2013, 12:23 AM
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This may be the worst proposal in this thread yet.
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Komeserek, Connoly, Liles, Bozak + 2nd round pick

You get 4 players + draft pick.

PMD, Big man who can bring leadership, Connoly has been playing on the checking line so lots of options, and Bozak to take #2 spot. Plus a pick in a deep draft.

Benn wants out obv, wants to go to a big market like Toronto.
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Explain.

You've replaced 60/70 points for 85 for less money and another potential 50... so 2 years from now you have somewhere around 125 points/year for jamie benn's 70. seems like a trade to me
You don't really understand how that works, do you...

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You don't really understand how that works, do you...
When you make a trade... like outside of NHL 13 ... you usually make one to have more options, to make your team better, or to reduce your salary.

The trade proposal involving 2 nhl ready players worth around 85 points collectively, plus another 21 year old 1st rounder player with upside, that is playing well at the Junior level (and just won a gold medal at the WJC) worth another 40 points (at the least)

for 1 player that MAY have a top end of 80 points means your team wins this trade.

Oh wait, you probably already worked that all out, because you know more than anyone about everything right?

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01-15-2013, 12:45 AM
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I stand corrected.
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01-15-2013, 12:48 AM
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When you make a trade... like outside of NHL 13 ... you usually make one to have more options, to make your team better, or to reduce your salary.

The trade proposal involving 2 nhl ready players worth around 85 points collectively, plus another 21 year old 1st rounder player with upside, that is playing well at the Junior level (and just won a gold medal at the WJC) worth another 40 points (at the least)

for 1 player that MAY have a top end of 80 points means your team wins this trade.

Oh wait, you probably already worked that all out, because you know more than anyone about everything right?
Just trade Benn for 30 ECHL players making $500 a week. If you add up those 30 they may add up to more points than Benn so it's a win, plus your cap hit for the entire team would be under one million! WOW AWESOME!!

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Komeserek, Connoly, Liles, Bozak + 2nd round pick

You get 4 players + draft pick.

PMD, Big man who can bring leadership, Connoly has been playing on the checking line so lots of options, and Bozak to take #2 spot. Plus a pick in a deep draft.

Benn wants out obv, wants to go to a big market like Toronto.
rofl.

CLEARLY, quantity is much more valuable than crystal clear quality. clearly.

I hope that was meant to be sarcastic.

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01-15-2013, 12:53 AM
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When you make a trade... like outside of NHL 13 ... you usually make one to have more options, to make your team better, or to reduce your salary.

The trade proposal involving 2 nhl ready players worth around 85 points collectively, plus another 21 year old 1st rounder player with upside, that is playing well at the Junior level (and just won a gold medal at the WJC) worth another 40 points (at the least)

for 1 player that MAY have a top end of 80 points means your team wins this trade.

Oh wait, you probably already worked that all out, because you know more than anyone about everything right?
How about the Stars keep the 70 points that Benn makes BY HIMSELF and ADD another player that gets 40 by himself, and more playing besides Benn? Ya, doesn't make any sense at all, does it?

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01-15-2013, 01:05 AM
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are the stars allowed to suit up both players at center, allowing for a 4-man line without having to pull kari?

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01-15-2013, 01:07 AM
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Clarke MacArthur, Tyler Biggs and Carl Gunnarson for Benn
2nd line winger/50 point getter, 2011 1st rounder and current first line d man
Change CMac to JVR, and change Gunnar to Gardiner, then I think Dallas will listen.

But it still doesn't change the fact that the Stars are not interested in losing their depth down the middle (which is thin as it is)

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Explain.

You've replaced 60/70 points for 85 for less money and another potential 50... so 2 years from now you have somewhere around 125 points/year for jamie benn's 70. seems like a trade to me
Makes sense. Pittsburgh should trade Crosby for 7 30 point plugs. 210 points for 110 points! How has no one thought of it before?

How about Kessel for Morrow, Wandell, Fiddler and Nystrom? That's like 110 points right there.

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Not sure how it's an obvious downgrade.. Benn may hold more value but this type of deal would be contingent upon Benn not coming to terms. IMO Benn is better offensively, Kesler is better defensively and his contract status/terms would hold value to the Stars management.
If Kesler could stay healthy, but he can't. I wouldn't do Benn for Kesler if I was the stars.

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01-15-2013, 02:32 AM
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would love Benn with the habs but we dont really have the assets to trade for him.Maybe start with our 2013 1st and add from there ?

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01-15-2013, 03:32 AM
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If we're just adding up player points and valuing them that way, I'll chip in:

Miller
Eaves
Abdelkader
Ericsson
Cleary
Bertuzzi
Samuelsson

for

Benn

i mean combined thats way more points than benn amirite

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01-15-2013, 03:40 AM
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Worst part of the lockout ending, having to read through these ridiculous trade proposals, mainly from Leafs fans, but the one above me takes the cake.

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Worst part of the lockout ending, having to read through these ridiculous trade proposals, mainly from Leafs fans, but the one above me takes the cake.
The post above you was making a point, much like everyone after the leafs fan's proposal.

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The post above you was making a point, much like everyone after the leafs fan's proposal.
Ah, just caught that. Just eyeballed a list of names and assumed it was like the rest of the silly offers in this thread (again, mostly from Leafs fans).

If Jamie Benn is dealt, expect a similar return to what Mike Richards or Jeff Carter hauled for the Flyers. In other words, the Leafs can't afford to trade for Jamie Benn.

IF he were to be moved, Dallas would require a new #1 C. Who has a high end young center with that kind of potential to give up? And no, Nazem Kadri isn't it.

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Absolutely no way he's dealt. Nieuwendyk isn't insane.

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01-15-2013, 07:28 AM
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Absolutely no way he's dealt. Nieuwendyk isn't insane.
The worst thing about having a recently retired player for your gm is that they can get stubborn when handing out far more cash than they ever got while playing. I think in gm joes case, he will come around reluctantly. If he doesn't the Boston offer was good but I still think Plekanac and Subban gives you more. The Toronto offers were brutal. Imagine, Connolley gives you options.

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plekanec AND subban?

where do i not sign?

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