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Vancouver seems to want a little of everything?

I quite dislike the hawks, but they are in need of depth as well, i dont see a quality roster player coming over from them.
Bolland, Sadd or the Hayes brothers are all assets I would have interest in from Chicago.

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Yet the latest rumour we have is a top prospect + nhl player. Gardiner falls into neither, as he's a young NHL player (beyond both components of the asking price.
Okay, now you are purposely inferring what you want. Gardiner could arguably fall into either category, albeit is more probable an NHL player. Your selective interruption is yet another thinly veiled attempt to float your own perception as fact.

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FLA: Luongo, Connauton, Read
PHI: Kulikov, Florida 2nd
VAN: Voracek

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FLA: Luongo, Connauton, Read
PHI: Kulikov, Florida 2nd
VAN: Voracek
Meh....Maybe.

I think Kulikov-Voracek is about fair.

To Fla: Luongo, Raymond
To PHI: Kulikov
To Van: Voracek, 2nd

Would how I would do it. It only makes sense if Kulikov can't come to terms with Fla though.

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FLA: Luongo, Connauton, Read
PHI: Kulikov, Florida 2nd
VAN: Voracek
I doubt Florida does it. They'd want more than Connauton and/or Read. I'd be tempted to add a pick or swap in Gaunce though.

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How do I know? That's the only piece of information that we have.

Luongo is the #1 player available via trade by a landslide, yet he remains a Canuck. Why would that be? Nobody has met the asking price. We already know which teams are in the mix.

The only team rumored to have serious interest has backed off (Toronto)...they didn't make a high value offer and there's nobody else. That may change in the next 5 days but I doubt it.

There is no market for Luongo right now that's why there's no value for him. Gillis has only one play and that's to hold on to him right now. That may or may not work in his favour.
I don't know .... maybe because he's only been available for a few days due to the lockout?

Maybe other GM's are trying to see who's going to blink first by not acquiescing to Gillis demands? Maybe they're tabling different offers? Perhaps they're waiting a bit longer to see how their own players are doing? Maybe they're trying to force Gillis's hand by seeing if he's really willing to go into the season with both goalies?

Clearly every GM knows what Gillis would like in return for Luongo, so perhaps they're mulling things over?

Nah ... couldn't be anything sensible. Must be Luongo has no value to any team in the league at age 33 earning a little over 5 million a year. That must be it.

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Doesn't look like he's coming to Toronto.


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Meh....Maybe.

I think Kulikov-Voracek is about fair.

To Fla: Luongo, Raymond
To PHI: Kulikov
To Van: Voracek, 2nd

Would how I would do it. It only makes sense if Kulikov can't come to terms with Fla though.
I value Kulikov > Voracek. That's why my deal is how it is. Philli adds Read but gets back a 2nd to sort of offset the loss. I was contemplating somehow giving Philli more because Read is pretty damn good too.

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I doubt Florida does it. They'd want more than Connauton and/or Read. I'd be tempted to add a pick or swap in Gaunce though.
Have you seen Reads statline? That kid looks great.

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Doesn't look like he's coming to Toronto.

Coming from a guy with "Tank for Mackinnon" on his profile?

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Florida will not move one of their cornerstones (Kulikov) for Luongo. They are simply not desperate enough to do that.

They have a capable starter for now in Theodore, and a Schneider potential prospect in Markstrom. It would be an extremely stupid move from their part.

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Coming from a guy with "Tank for Mackinnon" on his profile?
Ideal season...

1. Don't trade for Luongo
2. Win games vs. Montreal and Ottawa
3. Lose to everyone else
4. Nathan MacKinnon
5. Dominate for years

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Ideal season...

1. Don't trade for Luongo
2. Win games vs. Montreal and Ottawa
3. Lose to everyone else
4. Nathan MacKinnon
5. Dominate for years
6. ?????
7. Profit?

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Ideal season...

1. Don't trade for Luongo
2. Win games vs. Montreal and Ottawa
3. Lose to everyone else
4. Nathan MacKinnon
5. Dominate for years
Still no goalie.
See not even I can stick up for Leafers like you.

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Still no goalie.
See not even I can stick up for Leafers like you.
Niklas Backstrom on July 5th.

Book it.

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Niklas Backstrom on July 5th.

Book it.
33 year old goalie = too old for our young core
35 year old goalie = we dominate for years with him and a yet to be drafted player

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Niklas Backstrom on July 5th.

Book it.
Oh how did I miss that, it is so obvious! BRB going to plan the parade.

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I don't know .... maybe because he's only been available for a few days due to the lockout?

Maybe other GM's are trying to see who's going to blink first by not acquiescing to Gillis demands? Maybe they're tabling different offers? Perhaps they're waiting a bit longer to see how their own players are doing? Maybe they're trying to force Gillis's hand by seeing if he's really willing to go into the season with both goalies?

Clearly every GM knows what Gillis would like in return for Luongo, so perhaps they're mulling things over?

Nah ... couldn't be anything sensible. Must be Luongo has no value to any team in the league at age 33 earning a little over 5 million a year. That must be it.
These guys just spent literally 4 months doing nothing else but mulling things over. If GMs don't know if they want Luongo by now, then what have they been doing during the lockout? Taking sewing lessons?

Most teams in the NHL are happy with their goaltending situation or are tanking/rebuilding. If there is no trade by puck drop then you know nobody was willing to pay the Roster Player + Prospect reported asking price.

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33 year old goalie = too old for our young core
35 year old goalie = we dominate for years with him and a yet to be drafted player
I see it as...

Backstrom + keep assets (Kadri, Bozak, picks) + determine length of contract

or

Luongo

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Niklas Backstrom on July 5th.

Book it.
How did that workout with Brodeur, Thomas, Vokoun and Harding this year?

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I see it as...

Backstrom + keep assets (Kadri, Bozak, picks) + determine length of contract

or

Luongo
Give us older players then, like Lupul or Phaneuf or something, who likely won't want to spend their prime years rebuilding, and are UFA this year or the next.

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I see it as...

Backstrom + keep assets (Kadri, Bozak, picks) + determine length of contract

or

Luongo
Harding was just diagnosed with Multiple Scerosis and Wild signed Suter and Parise to massive contracts. Not sure they want to get rid of their #1 goalie. Also I have read you say how Luongo will only good till 37, well Backstrom is turning 36 next year, Backstrom has been no where near as productive as Luongo over his career I'm not sure how long you plan to keep him lol.

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Clearly because everyone wants to play for Toronto! I mean, look at Mike Richards!


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Last 6 seasons...

Backstrom: 327 GAMES, 160 WINS, 2.42 GAA, .918 SV%, 26 SHUTOUTS
Luongo: 386 GAMES, 224 WINS, 2.35 GAA, .920 SV%, 33 SHUTOUTS

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