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UPDATE: Coyotes Looking For 2nd Line Center. Rumored To Be Toronto's Matt Lombardi

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01-15-2013, 08:19 AM
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How about something like:

Redden + Rangers 2015 3rd to Toronto
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Christian Thomas (son of former Leaf great Steve Thomas) + Leafs 5th in 2013

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Leafs have enough $$ and seem to have enough space, which Rangers need; seems a win win if the compensation is fair for 1 full season next year and a shortened season 2013
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Is there any particular reason the Leafs decide to take on a buyout contract to move up a to a third round draft pick?

Seriously?

We are just going to throw a lifeline to the Rags so they can go get Yandle on their team too?

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01-15-2013, 08:45 AM
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Is there any particular reason the Leafs decide to take on a buyout contract to move up a to a third round draft pick?

Seriously?

We are just going to throw a lifeline to the Rags so they can go get Yandle on their team too?
And people make fun the the garbage trades that Leaf fans make? LoL

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01-15-2013, 09:08 AM
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Apologize in advance I won't have chance to go through all these posts til later, wanted to throw out the following prop now:

If the Rangers can get enough cap space, would love to see Yandle here. Stepan fits 2C to a 't'. May need to see if third team would consider taking Redden as short term cap dump to add more cushion for this and follow up trades.

How about something like:

Redden + Rangers 2015 3rd to Toronto
for
Christian Thomas (son of former Leaf great Steve Thomas) + Leafs 5th in 2013

short analysis
Leafs have enough $$ and seem to have enough space, which Rangers need; seems a win win if the compensation is fair for 1 full season next year and a shortened season 2013
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Stepan + Yogan + Calle Anderson + one other prospect we can agree on + Rangers 2nd in 2014
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Yandle + coyotes 5th in 2013

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I believe JT Miller works now for NY, espec. if he hooks up w/speedier linemates Hagelin, Kreider, Callahan. Still extremely thin at C, but believe this can be done. Adding Yandle creates huge options + depth to the roster. Could help NY not run out of gas end of playoffs. However, first and foremost, we need to change from Torts system as to too many blocked shots to really stop this problem, and that means more offense to keep more puck possession in the offensive zone.

For Phoenix, Maloney gets Stepan who's goal scoring may not be clear, but his puck distribution, etc., is extremely high.
Yogan is tall, strong, 4th rounder if I remember, has track record of scoring, would probably bend over backwards for chance to advance now.
Anderson is a bit away, but is a quality D to replenish 'yotes' D depth.
extra prospect, pick upgrade no explanation nec.
You just used a whole lot of words to say Stepan and a 2nd for Yandle. Easy no.

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01-15-2013, 09:30 AM
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Matt Lombardi as a 2nd line center? Yuck.

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Apologize in advance I won't have chance to go through all these posts til later, wanted to throw out the following prop now:

If the Rangers can get enough cap space, would love to see Yandle here. Stepan fits 2C to a 't'. May need to see if third team would consider taking Redden as short term cap dump to add more cushion for this and follow up trades.

How about something like:

Redden + Rangers 2015 3rd to Toronto
for
Christian Thomas (son of former Leaf great Steve Thomas) + Leafs 5th in 2013

short analysis
Leafs have enough $$ and seem to have enough space, which Rangers need; seems a win win if the compensation is fair for 1 full season next year and a shortened season 2013
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Stepan + Yogan + Calle Anderson + one other prospect we can agree on + Rangers 2nd in 2014
for
Yandle + coyotes 5th in 2013

short analysis
I believe JT Miller works now for NY, espec. if he hooks up w/speedier linemates Hagelin, Kreider, Callahan. Still extremely thin at C, but believe this can be done. Adding Yandle creates huge options + depth to the roster. Could help NY not run out of gas end of playoffs. However, first and foremost, we need to change from Torts system as to too many blocked shots to really stop this problem, and that means more offense to keep more puck possession in the offensive zone.

For Phoenix, Maloney gets Stepan who's goal scoring may not be clear, but his puck distribution, etc., is extremely high.
Yogan is tall, strong, 4th rounder if I remember, has track record of scoring, would probably bend over backwards for chance to advance now.
Anderson is a bit away, but is a quality D to replenish 'yotes' D depth.
extra prospect, pick upgrade no explanation nec.
Can someone explain that proposal to me? The Leafs trade for Redden and 3rd by giving up Christian Thomas and a 5th? Thomas is a Ranger prospect I don't understand how the Leafs are giving him up in the deal.

Even if the Leafs did have Thomas. The proposal as Redden and a 2015 3rd for B-prospect + 2013 5th. In what world do the Leafs want Redden? and in what world would they actually give up value for him? Weird.

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01-15-2013, 09:33 AM
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Lombardi and a 5th to Phoenix for a 7th.

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Lambo for 7th is fine with me.

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I wonder how far off O'Reilly and Elliott/Barrie/Gaunce/Siemens for Hanzal and Gormley is. Phoenix trades the more established package but gets the higher ceilinged one.

As an Avs fan I still like the idea of Radar and one of the prospects for Kulikov and Matthias more, but both are trades I could get behind if we do have to trade O'Reilly.

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+1 for Lombardi for a 7th being fine for Toronto.

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You can have Lombardi for free.

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I'm all for Lombo for a low pick, but I wouldn't want to give up anything in addition to get the deal done. He's not hurting the Leafs by keeping him, he just isn't worth much.

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I wonder how far off O'Reilly and Elliott/Barrie/Gaunce/Siemens for Hanzal and Gormley is. Phoenix trades the more established package but gets the higher ceilinged one.

As an Avs fan I still like the idea of Radar and one of the prospects for Kulikov and Matthias more, but both are trades I could get behind if we do have to trade O'Reilly.
I'd be shocked if Maloney valued O'Reilly significantly more than Hanzal. I would suspect Maloney would see that offer as basically a minor upgrade upfront (one that puts overall chemistry in tremendous jeopardy, and is a big risk in and of itself) for a huge, massive downgrade on the back end. Can't see any way our management would consider such a move.

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You just used a whole lot of words to say Stepan and a 2nd for Yandle. Easy no.
Yep. No deal from either side.

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Thread title makes it seem like Bob has called a trade. He has not. He simply said he heard a rumor on the internet. Let's take Bob's name off of this and avoid diminishing the credence that name gets around here when attached to something.

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I wonder how far off O'Reilly and Elliott/Barrie/Gaunce/Siemens for Hanzal and Gormley is. Phoenix trades the more established package but gets the higher ceilinged one.

As an Avs fan I still like the idea of Radar and one of the prospects for Kulikov and Matthias more, but both are trades I could get behind if we do have to trade O'Reilly.
As soon as you bring up Hanzal's name the conversation is over. No team is going to offer enough to get Maloney to even listen. He's too important to our Tippett-coached team.

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You just used a whole lot of words to say Stepan and a 2nd for Yandle. Easy no.
Phoenix has no reason to do this, I agree.

On the other hand, I can't for the life of me figure out where Yandle would fit on the Rangers. Bumping MDZ to the 3rd pairing?

McDonagh - Girardi
Yandle - Staal
MDZ - Doesitreallymatterlookatthetop5?

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Toronto is not trading Connolly or Lombo for anything less than some decent picks unless they are looking to add salary via another trade.
Why bother? What good is cap space if you don't spend it?
The leafs don't need the cap and could use the depth/options/competition

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Lombardi and a 5th to Phoenix for a 7th.
so your giving him away? I do think its a good idea to get rid of the salary and give a gid a roster spot

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If you take his full salary you can have him for a seventh. If we pay half though, I want a third.

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lombardi and a 5th to phoenix for a 7th.
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Thread title makes it seem like Bob has called a trade. He has not. He simply said he heard a rumor on the internet. Let's take Bob's name off of this and avoid diminishing the credence that name gets around here when attached to something.
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Apologize in advance I won't have chance to go through all these posts til later, wanted to throw out the following prop now:

If the Rangers can get enough cap space, would love to see Yandle here. Stepan fits 2C to a 't'. May need to see if third team would consider taking Redden as short term cap dump to add more cushion for this and follow up trades.

How about something like:

Redden + Rangers 2015 3rd to Toronto
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This must be a joke.

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How about Lombardi for Boedker? PS, anyone want some Rohypnol?

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