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01-15-2013, 03:15 PM
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both need to go to a team like Columbus, somewhere where they can play, withotu pressure, and get their careers going again.

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Phoenix might be an interesting landing spot for Gomez. They need a 2nd line center, and Tippet likes his two-way guys. If they're eyeing Matt Lombardi, then Gomez isn't any worse.

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https://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN/...86905331539968


46 by my count. She is probably including Miller, who should be subject to the slide rule if he doesn't play in 6 NHL games.
Miller will almost certainly stay with the Whale meaning his contract will not slide. He will get a peak this year too I believe.

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The contract will not count towards the 50 limit after it is bought out. This will give the Rangers a little wiggle room if they wanted to make a trade or bring in Fasth/Lindberg after their seasons are over.
Fast & Lindberg already count against the limit.

47 players are now contracted folks
Only MSC signed that does not count this year
2 more players on short term NHL deals will be signed now methinx
Plus 1-2 players on AHL deals to help out the Titanic mess aka The Whale

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01-15-2013, 03:18 PM
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Its NOT $5M.

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Redden was paid $1M sign bonus on $5M salary, owed pro-rated $2.34M this yr plus hypothetical $3.335M compliance buyout after season
https://twitter.com/NYP_Brooksie/sta...00459500646400

99 days in the NHL season. $4M pro-rated.

Redden is owed $2M and change this season. Its not $2.34M. Less than that.

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both need to go to a team like Columbus, somewhere where they can play, withotu pressure, and get their careers going again.
Every game the BJs get a chance to add an extra player they will ice these 6 players

Dubinsky - Gomez - AA
Erixon - Redden

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01-15-2013, 03:19 PM
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don't see why they wouldn't have kept him as insurance, to be honest.

that said, it's a travesty all around and shows why a salary cap is needed. these guys can't control themselves...especially when contracts are made public. it becomes an arms race. and ends up with this kind of garbage. if you're redden, you take what you can get. of course. but, really, he and everyone involved should be ashamed.

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01-15-2013, 03:22 PM
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Its 46 SPCs. Miller and MSC slide. Redden bought out.

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01-15-2013, 03:26 PM
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Miller will almost certainly stay with the Whale meaning his contract will not slide. He will get a peak this year too I believe.



Fast & Lindberg already count against the limit.

47 players are now contracted folks
Only MSC signed that does not count this year
2 more players on short term NHL deals will be signed now methinx
Plus 1-2 players on AHL deals to help out the Titanic mess aka The Whale
Unless the slide rule has changed in this CBA (and the MOA is slient on it), it doesn't matter if he plays in the AHL or any other league, only NHL games matter.


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a player aged 18 or 19 signs an entry-level contract with a club (with his age calculated on Sept. 15 of the year he signed the contract) but does not play in at least 10 NHL games, the contract will "slide" or be extended one year.
Bob McKenzie clarified that it's 6 NHL games for this shortened season.

Fast and Lindberg count because they're both older than 20.

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01-15-2013, 03:27 PM
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Its 46 SPCs. Miller and MSC slide. Redden bought out.
If Miller stays in CT and plays no more than 6 games for The Rangers - he slides? OK, very good news then!
My BAD - sorry.
At least for CT cuz we need some functioning bodies up (or down) there now!

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01-15-2013, 03:28 PM
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Phoenix definitely a potential landing spot for Gomez.

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01-15-2013, 03:28 PM
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Well back to the option of bringing in Gomez to be the 3rd line C?

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01-15-2013, 03:31 PM
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Could see a team like Detroit giving Redden a shot for depth.

Gomez? Maybe Isles, Flames, or Coyotes?

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Imagine this. Snow/Wang get stoned as spacemen alternatively Darth Vadered by Sather tomorrow and mistakenly claim Redden off waivers while at the same time buying out DiPietro (that then gets picked up by Philly)!
Now THAT would be something


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01-15-2013, 03:34 PM
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Imagine this. Snow/Wang get stoned as spacemen alternatively Darth Vadered by Sather tomorrow and mistakenly claim Redden off waivers while at the same time buying out DiPietro (that then gets picked up by Philly)!
Now THAT would be something

He'd just go to russia and play instead

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Watch him score twice against us the first chance he gets...

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Well back to the option of bringing in Gomez to be the 3rd line C?


Anyway, glad the NHL and the PA were able to come to a resolution in a timely manner. It's best for both parties this way. Best of luck to Redden wherever he winds up. He's been a class act down in Connecticut since the demotion.

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The ending to Redden saga can not come quick enough. One of the worst signings in the history of the game.

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01-15-2013, 03:46 PM
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This buyout rule should just be THE rule, permanently.

You can cut any player you want and remove his salary charge from your cap, but you still have to pay him.

This is the best of every world.

The player can get double-paid by going and signing elsewhere, and he still gets every cent of the contract he was entitled to (a possible tweak is that the original team can subtract the value of the new contract he signs).

The team isn't saddled with a bad signing, but pays a penalty in that they still have to pay the actual dollar value (this is an incentive against signing bad contracts for management).

The only argument against this is that it benefits the cash rich teams because they can take more risks. I would argue this is a minimal benefit, though, because they still can only fit a certain amount of dollars under the cap.

So yeah, maybe the Rangers can afford to take a risk on throwing more dollars at a Justin Schultz, cause if he doesn't work, they can clear him from their cap.... but at the same time, if he pans out, and they are out of cap room, they'll still have to decide between keeping him or Del Zotto. If they can't afford both, one still leaves in free agency to the highest bidder.

Absolutely no reason this shouldn't be the permanent rule.

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01-15-2013, 03:55 PM
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You'd never get a majority of the owners to agree to that. It would only benefit a few teams.

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It should at least be the case for injured and retired players. That way if Brad Richards calls it quits with 3 years left on his deal, we can strip him off our cap while still paying him.

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It should at least be the case for injured and retired players. That way if Brad Richards calls it quits with 3 years left on his deal, we can strip him off our cap while still paying him.
I'm a fan of what you initially proposed. I just don't think it would fly.

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That is hugely biased towards big market teams with owners who don't care about eating extra money. teams on the cap floor or in smaller markets would never be allowed to do this by their owners. making their contract mistakes far more punitive than that of large market big money teams. eaxactly the kind of rule all the small market owners were fighting to remove from the NHL in the lockout

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01-15-2013, 04:14 PM
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Excellent. Very glad he's out of our organization and glad that he can move on with his career. Best of luck.

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Sorry if this has been answered already but if Redden is claimed off waivers would the Rangers be on the hook for half the salary?

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Sorry if this has been answered already but if Redden is claimed off waivers would the Rangers be on the hook for half the salary?
No, they'd be off the hook for everything. You're thinking of reentry waivers, which were eliminated in the new CBA.

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