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[EDM/DAL] Mark Fistric for 2013 3rd Round Pick (MOD WARNING POST 255)

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01-15-2013, 09:37 AM
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I like the trade for Edmonton.
Fristric replaces Sutton... Peckham should either in the press box or in Oklahoma.

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01-15-2013, 09:41 AM
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Biases aside, this is a GREAT hockey trade. It's too bad some people decide to go to extremes to make it feel like they "won" a trade.
Probably true. The Oilers paid a 3rd to get a guy who probably would have been on waivers at the end of the week. By giving up the pick, they get him in camp and don't have to go through waiting to see if their waiver claim would have been successful.

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01-15-2013, 11:11 AM
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What????

I'm an Oiler fan and even I know that comment is hilarious. We are not top 10.....we aren't even top 15.

We lack a #1 dman......we have some decent #2-7 or #3-7 but need that true elite #1

Smid - #2 or #3
Whitney - #3 (if he is fully recovered then might revert back to #2)
Petry - #4
J. Schultz - #5 (as he gains experience he will become better and be better than #5 but right now he is probably a #5. Will have his moments where he is great but will struggle at other times)
N. Schultz - #4 or #5
Fistric - #6
Peckham - #6 or #7
Potter - #7

If we could somehow add Subban () our D would look pretty good
Thing is how many true #1 dmen are out there? Maybe 15. Not even half the teams in the league get one.

Chara
Myers
Kieth
Doughty
Suter
PK
Weber
Hamonic
Karlsson
Yandle
Letang
Burns
Pietrianglo
Edler
Enstrom

Two good teams that dont have a true number 1 are NYR and PHIL. Point is you can win with good depth at D...you dont just need a number 1.

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01-15-2013, 11:15 AM
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Probably true. The Oilers paid a 3rd to get a guy who probably would have been on waivers at the end of the week. By giving up the pick, they get him in camp and don't have to go through waiting to see if their waiver claim would have been successful.
Fail. The Oilers would have had the the 2nd chance at any waiver claim. Columbus seems to be pretty set at defense.
Nice of you to come in and try to discredit the trade

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01-15-2013, 12:11 PM
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I like the trade. We basically just ordered some sandpaper from the home depot as far as I'm concerned. Giving up picks isnt a huge deal, we have such a young team and a lot of prospects. I am pretty sure we are at the 50 contract limit anyway, so I wouldnt be surprised if we package more picks this draft to move up/trade for roster players.

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01-15-2013, 12:29 PM
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Good trade for the Oilers. Any extra defense they get is just a plus. And who knows if Fistric's best days are still ahead of him.

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01-15-2013, 12:30 PM
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Nice Opinion!

Opinion: a view or judgement formed about something, not based on fact or knowledge:

Now the Facts:
With Smid-Petry as top pair
Dubnyk was minimum 2.15Ga .930SV% depending on bottom 4.

When we rolled
Smid-Petry
Whitney-XXX
Peckham-Potter
.750 win% goalie with less than 2.00GA and .940Save%

A D pair is equal to the sum of its parts.
last half of the season smid-petry were the 7th best tough comp D pair.
three of those 7 are no longer together.

Whitney and N. Schultz were former top pairing D men.
both are now healthy.
Wait, are you actually trying to say its a FACT the Oilers have a top 10 defense???

Please, for the love of god, don't do this.

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01-15-2013, 01:11 PM
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Fistric is well worth a third, he's a solid NHL player and he's still young. Anyone suggesting he would have been waived is high on crack. The guy has value, no one is going to waive a piece that they can get an asset for. Any team that isn't 100% set would have paid SOMETHING.

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01-15-2013, 01:14 PM
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Fail. The Oilers would have had the the 2nd chance at any waiver claim. Columbus seems to be pretty set at defense.
Nice of you to come in and try to discredit the trade
How did I discredit the trade? The Oilers gave up next to nothing of value for a roster player and got him into camp earlier than if they waited for waivers.

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01-15-2013, 01:26 PM
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I believe Minnesota Wild would have paid a 3rd for Fistric, if they wouldn't be at the contract max. Fistric is a solid addition to Edmonton, and I hate Oilor/Eddy/Luckmonton.

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01-15-2013, 01:46 PM
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This is a great move for the Oilers, really improves their defensive depth.

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01-15-2013, 01:48 PM
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I believe Minnesota Wild would have paid a 3rd for Fistric, if they wouldn't be at the contract max. Fistric is a solid addition to Edmonton, and I hate Oilor/Eddy/Luckmonton.
MIN, VAN (before Vandy\Barker signings), NYI, NYR and pa few other teams wouldve paid a 3rd for Fistric.
DAL did Fistric and the Oilers a favor by trading him to his home city.

As for the bolded.. do you really want to see Tambo troll face again?

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01-15-2013, 01:50 PM
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Oilers trades for 3rd pairing defenseman to shore up defense.

Suddenly discussion Oilers defense in general break out (while the only change is Fistric) and whether the Oilers have a #1.

Only on Hfboards~
If you think the only change to the defense is Fistric, you haven't been paying attention.

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01-15-2013, 01:56 PM
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MIN, VAN (before Vandy\Barker signings), NYI, NYR and pa few other teams wouldve paid a 3rd for Fistric.
DAL did Fistric and the Oilers a favor by trading him to his home city.

As for the bolded.. do you really want to see Tambo troll face again?
Pretty bold statement without anything to back it up. And if recent history is indicative of anything then an Oilers third round pick is more valuable than a pick from most other teams in the league. If anything the hometown thing could have made Edmonton give up more than other teams are offering because of the easy re-sign, not Dallas giving him at a discount price. It seems like a fair value trade but impossible to know Dallas' other offers.

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01-15-2013, 02:09 PM
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Other third round picks for Edmonton in the last few years...

Ryan Martindale
Cameron Abney
Theo Peckham
Troy Hasketh
Danny Syvret
Robby Dee
Zach Stortini

Needless to say. Oiler fans are happy with the trade.

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Oilerbear once said Horcoff had more value then Crosby. Can people please not associated this as a typical fan?

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Fail. The Oilers would have had the the 2nd chance at any waiver claim. Columbus seems to be pretty set at defense.
Nice of you to come in and try to discredit the trade
No kidding. I'm pretty sure Fistric is a guy that a lot of teams can use. I doubt the Oilers and Canucks are the only teams looking for physical bottom pairing Dmen. The reality of the situation is that if the Oilers didn't give up a 3rd for him, someone else would have.

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In the last 12 years, the Oilers have drafted three players in the third round who have played at least one NHL game.

Theo Peckham, Danny Syrvet and Zack Stortini.


Draft picks get way overvalued.

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Other third round picks for Edmonton in the last few years...

Ryan Martindale
Cameron Abney
Theo Peckham
Troy Hasketh
Danny Syvret
Robby Dee
Zach Stortini

Needless to say. Oiler fans are happy with the trade.
Sad to say, I think that's more a testament to poor scouting than anything else.

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Sad to say, I think that's more a testament to poor scouting than anything else.
Agreed.
So trade that 3rd!

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Sad to say, I think that's more a testament to poor scouting than anything else.
That combined with the nature of the 3rd round.

The Stars' 3rd round picks to play an NHL game in the last 12 years are Reilly Smith, Richard Clune, Perttu Lindgren and Joel Lundqvist.


Smith looks to be the only one in either organization who will be more than a fringe NHLer/career minor leaguer at this point.

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That combined with the nature of the 3rd round.

The Stars' 3rd round picks to play an NHL game in the last 12 years are Reilly Smith, Richard Clune, Perttu Lindgren and Joel Lundqvist.


Smith looks to be the only one in either organization who will be more than a fringe NHLer/career minor leaguer at this point.
Aww Lundqvist

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That combined with the nature of the 3rd round.

The Stars' 3rd round picks to play an NHL game in the last 12 years are Reilly Smith, Richard Clune, Perttu Lindgren and Joel Lundqvist.


Smith looks to be the only one in either organization who will be more than a fringe NHLer/career minor leaguer at this point.
Second round on is hit and miss, but when you acquire more picks there is a better chance of getting a solid player.

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MIN, VAN (before Vandy\Barker signings), NYI, NYR and pa few other teams wouldve paid a 3rd for Fistric.
DAL did Fistric and the Oilers a favor by trading him to his home city.

As for the bolded.. do you really want to see Tambo troll face again?
I don't think Vancouver would have paid more than a 5th or 6th, but that's mainly due to role and chance of resigning him.

He'd be the 7th defenseman here, probably playing in 20-30 games this season. I don't think he'd want to re-sign after unless we moved Ballard since he'd want more playing time.

In Edmonton, he'd be the #6 defenseman, probably playing 40+ games. That position combined with playing in his hometown probably will convince him to re-sign, and makes him worth a 3rd to Edmonton.

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I don't think Vancouver would have paid more than a 5th or 6th, but that's mainly due to role and chance of resigning him.

He'd be the 7th defenseman here, probably playing in 20-30 games this season. I don't think he'd want to re-sign after unless we moved Ballard since he'd want more playing time.

In Edmonton, he'd be the #6 defenseman, probably playing 40+ games. That position combined with playing in his hometown probably will convince him to re-sign, and makes him worth a 3rd to Edmonton.

Yet VAN fans are the one who are the most impressed with this kid. Why would he not resign with a club that is a cup contender. Fistric played his junior hockey in VAN. a 6th round pick.. really? Those are used to move up 10 spots in the 4th round and are worth nothing more.

VAN would have gladly given up a late 3rd in order to upgrade from a Barker to Fistric.

From the sounds of things (and the practices today) Fistric might be a #7 Dman for the Oilers as well.

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