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01-14-2013, 11:29 PM
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The Sabres had a scrimmage tonight. After the game the GM was asked about the numerous D-men and he said he knows he needs to trade one or two of them rather than risk losing them for nothing in the waiver wire.

Given some injuries they have (Troup, Gerbe, possibly Mccormick) they could opt with keeping 8 D-men on the 23 man roster maybe hoping for injuries and then in the season trade one.

He olso said they need to decide by thursday because they have to be on the waiver wire for 24 hrs before the Friday deadline of hitting the roster limit.

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01-14-2013, 11:36 PM
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Clifford and Loktionov for Regher and?

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01-14-2013, 11:43 PM
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Clifford and Loktionov for Regher and?
And Regher waives his no trade clause....

Throw in Luke Adam...he needs a change of scenery.

Is Dustin Brown Available?

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And Regher waives his no trade clause....

Throw in Luke Adam...he needs a change of scenery.

Is Dustin Brown Available?
No Brown isnt available. Give your head a shake.

Regehr and Adam for Clifford and Loktionov? Done.

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No Brown isnt available. Give your head a shake.

Regehr and Adam for Clifford and Loktionov? Done.

No reason for Buffalo to do this deal...

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01-14-2013, 11:54 PM
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If Regehr was healthy and willing to move, St Louis would be a great spot for him.

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No Brown isnt available. Give your head a shake.

Regehr and Adam for Clifford and Loktionov? Done.
There's no reason for Buffalo to do that, and Regehr woulnd't waive anyway.

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i think the Flyers would probably have interest in Regehr.

Ty McGinn and a 3rd for Regehr

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Regehr probably wouldn't waive his NTC to move anywhere tbh, and I think it would be in bad taste for our GM to ask him to. Its simply not going to happen.

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SMH @ people looking at Regehr's minuses and offering scraps. Adorable. Do some research, people.

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With Mitchell being injured indefinitely after his knee surgery, I'm sure the Kings could use a veteran defenseman. Would the Sabres be interested in Loktionov (skilled, potential 2nd line center) or Lewis (defensive forward capable of center or wing)? What would you be willing to trade for either of them?

Unless there's some other piece that the Sabres are interested in, provided they are willing to give more in turn.
Something around Pardy for Lewis makes sense for both teams, IMO.

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01-15-2013, 05:17 PM
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Regehr probably wouldn't waive his NTC to move anywhere tbh, and I think it would be in bad taste for our GM to ask him to. Its simply not going to happen.
Regher is less likely to be moved.....He still hads a no trade contract.

the only time possible would be at the trade deadline and Buffalo appears to be a long shot of getting to the playoffs.

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01-15-2013, 05:40 PM
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The Blues need a left d-man (ideally one who makes sense paired with Pietrangelo on the 1st pairing) and have 15 quality forwards (Backes, Oshie, Perron, McDonald, Steen, Tarasenko, Berglund, Stewart, Schwartz, Sobotka, D'Agostini, Langenbrunner, Nichol, Reaves, Porter). Would a Blues forward for Sabres d-man make sense? What would Sabres fans think it would take to get any of:

Sekera
Leopold
Regehr

Depending on what the return package would be, I could see the Blues being interested in any of those 3. The Blues also have two quality forward prospects in Rattie and Jaskin. Any other prospect is also game.

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Something around Pardy for Lewis makes sense for both teams, IMO.
Not really.

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The Blues need a left d-man (ideally one who makes sense paired with Pietrangelo on the 1st pairing) and have 15 quality forwards (Backes, Oshie, Perron, McDonald, Steen, Tarasenko, Berglund, Stewart, Schwartz, Sobotka, D'Agostini, Langenbrunner, Nichol, Reaves, Porter). Would a Blues forward for Sabres d-man make sense? What would Sabres fans think it would take to get any of:

Sekera
Leopold
Regehr

Depending on what the return package would be, I could see the Blues being interested in any of those 3. The Blues also have two quality forward prospects in Rattie and Jaskin. Any other prospect is also game.
I think they make ideal trading partners. Opposite conference, Buffalo overloaded with NHL defensemen and the Blues overloaded with NHL forwards.

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Trading value

Sekera - Unlikely to be traded. Has improved by leaps and bounds. Very friendly contract, sound in all aspects of game, and skates well.

Leopold - Very solid Vet Dman for a 3/4 slot

Brennan - Really high skill offense / puck moving (reminds me of Campbell when he was coming up) but needs fair bit of work at D

Pardy - Decent bottom pairing guy

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I must differ from most of my other fellow Sabre fans when I think Sekera is likely the one they will end up trying to trade.

Myers and Ehrhoff have the top 2 spots locked up, and with Pysyk, Brennan and Jake McCabe emerging, Sekera gets you the best return easily. Maybe only Leopold gives you a decent return between the group of guys likely to move

I can definitely see Buffalo moving Sekera if they can add help up front

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Regehr probably wouldn't waive his NTC to move anywhere tbh, and I think it would be in bad taste for our GM to ask him to. Its simply not going to happen.
Exactly. Bad practice to ask guy to waive and dump him a year after.

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I must differ from most of my other fellow Sabre fans when I think Sekera is likely the one they will end up trying to trade.

Myers and Ehrhoff have the top 2 spots locked up, and with Pysyk, Brennan and Jake McCabe emerging, Sekera gets you the best return easily. Maybe only Leopold gives you a decent return between the group of guys likely to move

I can definitely see Buffalo moving Sekera if they can add help up front
I tend to agree with this assessment. Sekera is the best pawn to dangle to help improve BUF upfront. Whereas Regehr is untradeable, and Leopold plays way too many minutes to be easily replaceable, including on the PK & PP.

Sekera doesn't really specialize in either of those special team role. His limited PK minutes can be replaced by Weber & McNabb. And his limited PP minutes can be replaced by Brennan & McNabb.

The fact that Sekera has three years left on a reasonable $2.75M contract makes him that much more appealing to cap ceiling teams looking for a top 4 d-man. I suspect a partner could be conveniently found among the western conference teams including the likes of:
DET
NSH
COL
MIN


In addition, if Pardy is waived, BUF would be left with a manageable number for an NHL d-men corp (especially with McNabb eligible for occasional AHL duty without waivers):

1 Christian Ehrhoff
2 Jordan Leopold
3 Tyler Myers
4 Mike Weber
5 Robyn Regehr
6 Alexander Sulzer
7 T.J. Brennan
8 Brayden McNabb

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I tend to agree with this assessment. Sekera is the best pawn to dangle to help improve BUF upfront. Whereas Regehr is untradeable, and Leopold plays way too many minutes to be easily replaceable, including on the PK & PP.

Sekera doesn't really specialize in either of those special team role. His limited PK minutes can be replaced by Weber & McNabb. And his limited PP minutes can be replaced by Brennan & McNabb.

The fact that Sekera has three years left on a reasonable $2.75M contract makes him that much more appealing to cap ceiling teams looking for a top 4 d-man. I suspect a partner could be conveniently found among the western conference teams including the likes of:
DET
NSH
COL
MIN


In addition, if Pardy is waived, BUF would be left with a manageable number for an NHL d-men corp (especially with McNabb eligible for occasional AHL duty without waivers):

1 Christian*Ehrhoff
2 Jordan*Leopold
3 Tyler*Myers
4 Mike*Weber
5 Robyn*Regehr
6 Alexander*Sulzer
7 T.J.*Brennan
8 Brayden*McNabb
Only way I can see Sekera being traded is for a legit blue chip prospect or young player, preferably winger. The prospect would have to be top 10 and the young player would have to be very good. Unless NSH wants to part with Wilson or COL wants to part with RoR I don't see it happening.

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Regher is less likely to be moved.....He still hads a no trade contract.
That is not necessarily true.

When a player with an active NMC or NTC is traded, the team acquiring the player has an option to pick it up.
Because the Buffalo media rarely manages to report anything useful, we'll probably never know what the Sabres did.

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The Blues need a left d-man (ideally one who makes sense paired with Pietrangelo on the 1st pairing) and have 15 quality forwards (Backes, Oshie, Perron, McDonald, Steen, Tarasenko, Berglund, Stewart, Schwartz, Sobotka, D'Agostini, Langenbrunner, Nichol, Reaves, Porter). Would a Blues forward for Sabres d-man make sense? What would Sabres fans think it would take to get any of:

Sekera
Leopold
Regehr

Depending on what the return package would be, I could see the Blues being interested in any of those 3. The Blues also have two quality forward prospects in Rattie and Jaskin. Any other prospect is also game.
I'd do Sobotka and a small something (3rd or 4th?) for Leopold. I'd love Berglund, but I'd imagine Sekera would have to be the centerpiece in any such deal.

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That is not necessarily true.

When a player with an active NMC or NTC is traded, the team acquiring the player has an option to pick it up.
Because the Buffalo media rarely manages to report anything useful, we'll probably never know what the Sabres did.
I just posed the question to Hoppe, Vogl, and Hamilton on Twitter. We'll see if they take time out of their day to dig this up, but they're probably more concerned with what Grigorenko ate for breakfast or asking the other players whether Grigorenko is likely to be the greatest of all-time or just the second greatest of all-time.

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I tend to agree with this assessment. Sekera is the best pawn to dangle to help improve BUF upfront. Whereas Regehr is untradeable, and Leopold plays way too many minutes to be easily replaceable, including on the PK & PP.

The fact that Sekera has three years left on a reasonable $2.75M contract makes him that much more appealing to cap ceiling teams looking for a top 4 d-man. I suspect a partner could be conveniently found among the western conference teams including the likes of:
DET
NSH
COL
MIN


In addition, if Pardy is waived, BUF would be left with a manageable number for an NHL d-men corp (especially with McNabb eligible for occasional AHL duty without waivers):

1 Christian Ehrhoff
2 Jordan Leopold
3 Tyler Myers
4 Mike Weber
5 Robyn Regehr
6 Alexander Sulzer
7 T.J. Brennan
8 Brayden McNabb
Buffalo's biggest need are with wingers.

McNabb will likely stay down in rochester this year except for injury call ups.

I would add STL and LA to the mix.

LA with the injury would be more than happy with someone like Leopold in his walk year. Regher is also possible but he likely doesnt waive his no trade clause until the deadline.

For Buffalo to move Sekera given his contract length/cap his return will have to be for a 1st/2nd line player....not a prospect.

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Give me Leopold, pair him with Gonchar like in 2010 Pittsburgh.

What are Buffalos needs. Don't think they will trade within division but you never know.

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I just posed the question to Hoppe, Vogl, and Hamilton on Twitter. We'll see if they take time out of their day to dig this up, but they're probably more concerned with what Grigorenko ate for breakfast or asking the other players whether Grigorenko is likely to be the greatest of all-time or just the second greatest of all-time.
On Monday in the sabres edge blog posting Vogl talked about the defensemen and who could be traded......

http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres/



The Sabres' dilemma on defense -- how to fit nine blue-liners into six spots -- got even trickier today.

With minor-leaguer Joe Finley getting claimed off waivers by the Islanders today, it's all but certain the Sabres won't risk sending T.J. Brennan back to Rochester via waivers. That's one alleviation option gone for Buffalo General Manager Darcy Regier.

So who should the Sabres keep and use on the blue line? You can vote in the poll below.

Tyler Myers and Christian Ehrhoff, by virtue of their status and contracts, are not included. They're locked in. But everyone else is eligible to stay or go. Here are some pros and cons:

Jordan Leopold -- He has 23 goals and 36 assists over the last two seasons, making him one of the Sabres' most consistent defensemen. He also makes a reasonable $3 million. But he's in the final year of his contract and could be lost for nothing at the end of the season.

Robyn Regehr -- Acquired prior to last season, Regehr was viewed as the missing, physical, stay-at-home piece of the Sabres' puzzle. He is tough, but he's also 32 and in the last year of his contract, which pays $4 million.

Andrej Sekera -- The 26-year-old is in the second season of a contract that averages $2.75 million. Blessed with offensive skills, especially skating, he has underachieved. He had three goals and 13 points in 69 games last year.

Alexander Sulzer -- Acquired at the trade deadline as a throw-in to the Cody Hodgson deal, he blossomed in Buffalo and was arguably its best defender down the stretch. He had three goals and eight points in 15 games. The 28-year-old signed a one-year, $725,000 deal.

Brennan -- He leads the Amerks with 14 goals and 35 points in 36 games. He had just one goal and no assists in 11 games with Buffalo last year. He makes $550,000.

Mike Weber -- A physical defenseman, Weber has had his ups and downs with Buffalo. There have been times he's a vital piece to the blue line, and others when he can't even crack the lineup. He makes $900,000.

Adam Pardy -- The biggest unknown among Buffalo's defenders. Acquired as part of the trade that brought Steve Ott to town over the summer, Pardy had three assists in 36 games with Dallas last season. He played 30 games for the Stars the previous year after 57- and 60-game campaigns with Calgary. He's in the final year of a contract that pays $2 million.

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