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01-12-2013, 10:39 PM
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PK Subban

It seems like PK is having a tough time getting a contract with the Habs? You guys think we give up the first rounders that would be required to snag him? I think he's got a huge future, plus im sure he'd like to be with his buddy JT. It would help with our defensive depth. Not saying we should do it, just wondering what you guys think

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I think the Isles would rather offer a package to MTL than offer sheet him. Unfortunately the odds of that happening are microscopic. Can't see the Isles making any average sized moves at this point, much less a gigantic move like that.

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I'm all for throwing some first rounders to get PK. However, protect those first rounders. If there is one thing Brian Burke and Phil Kessel have taught us, it is that you should protect picks in a deal like this.

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I'd love Subban on this team...and he is close friends with JT, so all the better.

But not being much of a fan of offer sheets (especially with teams in the same conference)...I'd rather get on the phone w/Montreal and see what the price would be for him and try to go that route instead.

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01-12-2013, 11:31 PM
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I would love Subban on the Isles, but it's not going to happen.

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But not being much of a fan of offer sheets
Montreal would just thank you for handling the negotiations and match the offer sheet.

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He's a great fit on-ice, but he's only going to sign a deal for something close to his true value so he's not going to be a "bargain" and the Isles should not give up a 1st for him.

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Islanders already made their big signing, Radek Martinek is officially back.

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It seems like PK is having a tough time getting a contract with the Habs? You guys think we give up the first rounders that would be required to snag him? I think he's got a huge future, plus im sure he'd like to be with his buddy JT. It would help with our defensive depth. Not saying we should do it, just wondering what you guys think
He reportedly wants Doughty ($7m) type money, which is a joke.

The isles have Hamonic due a new contract this summer. I hope TH is more realistic the Subban is being.

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Do you know the kind of money we would have to spend to bring PK here? Never going to happen, ever.

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He reportedly wants Doughty ($7m) type money, which is a joke.

The isles have Hamonic due a new contract this summer. I hope TH is more realistic the Subban is being.
I would imagine Hamonic's price going up after this season. Probably not to that level, but I expect him to establish himself as a legitimate #2 this year.

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I think Hammer would sign something like a 3.75-4.25/year deal

PK is not worth more than 5ish per year. 6 on the high end.

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I think Hammer would sign something like a 3.75-4.25/year deal

PK is not worth more than 5ish per year. 6 on the high end.
I hope he is willing to sign a 5-6 yr deal, go into his ufa yrs like Tavares/Okposo/Grabner did.

NYR signed Del Zotta to a 2 yr deal. Reportedly for $2.5m per. Nice deal, very reasonable.

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he is the most over rated dman in the league

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PK Subban won't cost more than Tavares. Tavares is his BFF, he's not gonna come in here as the team's highest paid player.

I'd offer just about anything for him. Great player. Look at his Corsi stats if you think he's just a highlight reel. This team looks set to grab Jones as currently constructed, but I'd gladly grab Subban now and try and make a run at the playoffs rather than wait for the lottery and hope we get a top 2 pick.

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He reportedly wants Doughty ($7m) type money, which is a joke.

The isles have Hamonic due a new contract this summer. I hope TH is more realistic the Subban is being.
I am not Travis Biggest fan and i am sure i have made that clear from time to time. However he is still getting better and he was starting to grow on me. I just do not think he will ever be a true STUD of a D man that some make him out to be. With that being sad i think he has a slightly higher UPSIDE than PK. There is no way Travis is worth 7M a season. So if i feel he is better than PK i would not want to give PK 7M either. They both IMO would be around 4M range give or take a MIL depending on length of a deal.

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I think Hammer would sign something like a 3.75-4.25/year deal

PK is not worth more than 5ish per year. 6 on the high end.
that is what i would think he would go for as well.
I think that i would pay him Slightly more per year if he wanted something shorter. say he wanted 3 years i would go like 4.5 oer for 3 years.
I would than offer him 4.25 for 5 years or something. I would be a little worried about going longer just yet. He is still young and could regress.

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01-14-2013, 10:10 AM
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I don't think it's worth it to start throwing first round picks and high end prospects for a defensemen only 3 seasons into his career. There's that and always the question of whether or not he'll duplicate 30+ point seasons here.

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I am not Travis Biggest fan and i am sure i have made that clear from time to time. However he is still getting better and he was starting to grow on me. I just do not think he will ever be a true STUD of a D man that some make him out to be. With that being sad i think he has a slightly higher UPSIDE than PK. There is no way Travis is worth 7M a season. So if i feel he is better than PK i would not want to give PK 7M either. They both IMO would be around 4M range give or take a MIL depending on length of a deal.
The $4m range would be John Carlson range. I'd be pretty happy, if Snow could get Hamonic signed longterm at $4m per.

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The $4m range would be John Carlson range. I'd be pretty happy, if Snow could get Hamonic signed longterm at $4m per.
I think its a fair $ figure. For a solid second pairing type of a guy. who could play some top line min as well.

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Subban's contract negotiations are hitting wall and it is not looking very optimistic. Could the Isles possibly pull the trigger on a trade even with the amount of d-men they have? Will they pay him as well?

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I'm a HUGE fan of Subban and would definitely love to have the kid with us. Having him on our team would significantly upgrade our team.

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Subban's contract negotiations are hitting wall and it is not looking very optimistic. Could the Isles possibly pull the trigger on a trade even with the amount of d-men they have? Will they pay him as well?
It would probably cost us in the neighborhood of Hamonic + Strome and 1st for an unsigned Subban. Its just not worth it.

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Montreal will not take just futures (picks/prospects) for Subban, they will want an impact player in return, we do not have any impact players we can risk loosing. I would throw almost any pick/prospect combo for him though.

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If the Isles want to be part of any trade im sure the Habs would go after Brock Nelson/Neiterrater top D prospect take your pick and 1 rounder next year. Get ready to pay. Im a huge Subban fan myself.

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