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01-16-2013, 08:10 PM
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Tatar should be a top 9 player in the NHL. If you're looking for more immediate impact, I would do Filppula ++

Really like Kulikov.
Eh, I'd have to see what the + is.

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To Philly: Kulikov
To Florida: Voracek + Meszaros/1st
I'd do this, this is a great proposal.

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01-16-2013, 08:14 PM
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Eh, I'd have to see what the + is.



I'd do this, this is a great proposal.
Out of curiosity, would you have more interest in Meszaros or the first?

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01-16-2013, 08:16 PM
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To Philly: Kulikov
To Florida: Voracek + Meszaros/1st
I'm torn on this. Up until camp Voracek was penciled in on the top line with Giroux. Now Schenn is there and Voracek is slotted in to get 3rd line minutes with Couturier and Talbot. I really like him as a player he has speed size and good vision. But I can't say that I flat out wouldn't do this as this addresses our biggest need. Had he come into camp and been the undisputed first line winger I think I'd have to say no but now that it appears Schenn will be there I think I'd probably have to take that deal as a Flyers fan. I'd rather move the 1st then Mez though. He provides solid depth for us and is one of our more mobile defensemen.

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Worst proposals ever wow

You think Gagner a superstar or what ?

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01-16-2013, 08:20 PM
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Subban, Desharnais and a second for Benn.

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01-16-2013, 08:21 PM
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I'm torn on this. Up until camp Voracek was penciled in on the top line with Giroux. Now Schenn is there and Voracek is slotted in to get 3rd line minutes with Couturier and Talbot. I really like him as a player he has speed size and good vision. But I can't say that I flat out wouldn't do this as this addresses our biggest need. Had he come into camp and been the undisputed first line winger I think I'd have to say no but now that it appears Schenn will be there I think I'd probably have to take that deal as a Flyers fan
That was my basic thought process. I assumed Schenn would come into camp as the 2nd line center or winger and down the line he'd bump up the wing with Giroux once Hartnell retires/leaves.

But if they think Schenn can handle the wing now and Voracek isn't even playing in the top 6, that's wasting his talent in my eyes.

Without Voracek the top 6 still looks like

Hartnell - Giroux - Schenn
Read/Briere - Couturier - Simmonds

Once Briere leaves it would be nice to have the scoring and two way ability that Voracek provides, but it's nothing that drafting, re-signing Read or free agency can't fix.

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01-16-2013, 08:23 PM
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Oilers:

To DAL:
Sam Gagner, MPS, 1st 2013
To EDM: Jamie Benn

To FLA: Sam Gagner, 2nd 2013 (or just a 2013 1st)
To EDM: Dmitri Kulikov

To COL: Sam Gagner, Magnus Paajarvi, 3rd 2013
To EDM: Ryan O'Reilly

Can't really think of a deal MTL would take for Subban from Edmonton...
To TOR: RNH
To EDM: Tyler Bozak, Carter Ashton, 1st 2013

To TOR: Yakupov
To EDM: Tyler Bozak, 2nd 2013 (or just a 2013 1st)

To TOR: Eberle
To EDM: Tyler Bozak, Carter Ashton, 3rd 2013

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01-16-2013, 08:24 PM
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Subban, Desharnais and a second for Benn.
Why not just use the money they would need to sign Benn to just sign Subban instead?

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01-16-2013, 08:25 PM
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I would consider Hall or Eberle for Benn.

But seriously, Gagner + Paajarvi and a 1st round pick are scraps but Stepan + Kreider and Lupul + Biggs + 2nd round pick are not? Some real GMs on this board.

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To get Jamie Benn on the Sabres I would give up something along the lines of: Stafford, Armia, and a 2nd.

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Gagner's a decent 2nd line center, and Paajarvi has a lot of skills, could become another 2nd line forward as well. A first pick from the Oilers still has some value. This offer is not all bad when you really look at it.

Stepan + Kreider is also an OK offer in my opinion. Stepan is a good 2nd line center too, and Kreider has huge potential.

The Lupul offer is less interesting IMO.

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To Pitt: Benn

To Dallas: despres/morrow+TK/Duper+1st

My fellow Pens may say this is too much but you gotta give to get. I would rather it be Despres then Morrow though.

Any chance in this?

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Out of curiosity, would you have more interest in Meszaros or the first?
Probably Meszaros.

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01-16-2013, 08:46 PM
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Why not just use the money they would need to sign Benn to just sign Subban instead?
Because the montreal Canadiens will be a better team with Jamie Benn. If Dallas has problems signing him we will have a ligit #1 center. I love Plekanac and every thing he does but he does not do everything that Benn will do. A real # 1 center built for todays game.

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I would consider Hall or Eberle for Benn.

But seriously, Gagner + Paajarvi and a 1st round pick are scraps but Stepan + Kreider and Lupul + Biggs + 2nd round pick are not? Some real GMs on this board.
Kreider>>> Paajarvi by a fairly wide margin. Kreider had more goals and almost as many points in 18 games as MPS had in 42.

Stepan in 2 seasons has broken the 20 goal mark and 50 point mark. In 5 seasons Gagner has not.

Also, I didn't just say Stepan & Kreider. I said Stepan + Kreider + ?? Not sure what the + would have to be.

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01-16-2013, 09:01 PM
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Because the montreal Canadiens will be a better team with Jamie Benn. If Dallas has problems signing him we will have a ligit #1 center. I love Plekanac and every thing he does but he does not do everything that Benn will do. A real # 1 center built for todays game.
Who you replacing Subban's 24 minutes a night against the other teams top players with?

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Oilers:

To DAL:
Sam Gagner, MPS, 1st 2013
To EDM: Jamie Benn

To FLA: Sam Gagner, 2nd 2013 (or just a 2013 1st)
To EDM: Dmitri Kulikov

To COL: Sam Gagner, Magnus Paajarvi, 3rd 2013
To EDM: Ryan O'Reilly

Can't really think of a deal MTL would take for Subban from Edmonton...
The irony of the bolded statement after making those first 3 "offers" is just delicious! Tambo gets his calls blocked after making any one of those offers.

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Oilers:

To DAL:
Sam Gagner, MPS, 1st 2013
To EDM: Jamie Benn

To FLA: Sam Gagner, 2nd 2013 (or just a 2013 1st)
To EDM: Dmitri Kulikov

To COL: Sam Gagner, Magnus Paajarvi, 3rd 2013
To EDM: Ryan O'Reilly

Can't really think of a deal MTL would take for Subban from Edmonton...
But you think Dallas, Florida, and Colorado will take those offers? Oh man

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Kings offer Gagne, Stoll, and Mitchell for Benn+, since Nieuwendyk apparently thinks it's still 2006.


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If the habs were to trade Subban in a deal for Benn one of the only deals involving Subban i'd make, Kulikov would be a good piece to replace Subban i love his game, I'd do Habs first plus Plekanec for him


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To Pitt: Benn

To Dallas: despres/morrow+TK/Duper+1st

My fellow Pens may say this is too much but you gotta give to get. I would rather it be Despres then Morrow though.

Any chance in this?
IMO - Dallas laughs and hangs up the phone. A very good prospect, late 1st, and 3rd line winger would be a rental price for a player like Benn if he was a UFA at the deadline.

IMO, PITT would have to offer multiple "blue chip" prospects with at one of them up front, which I don't think they have at this point.

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Oilers:

To DAL:
Sam Gagner, MPS, 1st 2013
To EDM: Jamie Benn

To FLA: Sam Gagner, 2nd 2013 (or just a 2013 1st)
To EDM: Dmitri Kulikov

To COL: Sam Gagner, Magnus Paajarvi, 3rd 2013
To EDM: Ryan O'Reilly

Can't really think of a deal MTL would take for Subban from Edmonton...
Funniest thing I have read all year. Edmonton takes any of them and runs away laughing. Any of the other GM's who would say "yes" would be fired.

If Gagner is the main piece in your offer, Montreal is not interested.

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Who you replacing Subban's 24 minutes a night against the other teams top players with?
For the immediate future we will be looking at Gorges, Emelin, Markov, Tinordi, Weber, Diaz, Kaberle, Bouillon etc. Since a center core of Benn, Eller and Galyenchuk should suffice, we could package Plekanac a second and a prospect for a very good defenceman. Maybe a beast like bogosian.

Lets see. Price in nets, Bogosian, Emelin, Gorges, Tinordi for a top four. Three centers in Benn, Eller and Galyenchuk. Cole, Patches, Gionta, Bourque, Prust, Moen and we still got a ton of servicable players , prospects, picks and money for free agents for more upgrading.

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I tried asking what Stars fans would want from the Rangers for Benn in the other thread, but no one would answer.

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For the immediate future we will be looking at Gorges, Emelin, Markov, Tinordi, Weber, Diaz, Kaberle, Bouillon etc. Since a center core of Benn, Eller and Galyenchuk should suffice, we could package Plekanac a second and a prospect for a very good defenceman. Maybe a beast like bogosian.

Lets see. Price in nets, Bogosian, Emelin, Gorges, Tinordi for a top four. Three centers in Benn, Eller and Galyenchuk. Cole, Patches, Gionta, Bourque, Prust, Moen and we still got a ton of servicable players , prospects, picks and money for free agents for more upgrading.
Not happening. Goes against everything the Jets want to do for the future. Unless that prospect's last name starts with a G and ends with -alchenyuk.

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