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01-16-2013, 05:37 PM
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Lmao. Any GM would take GUnnar over Schultz.

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01-16-2013, 05:41 PM
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I'd like to thank the Oilers fans saying "Edmonton says no" for the laughs that they gave me. Well done

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01-16-2013, 05:45 PM
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Only oil players I would want is hall rnh or ebs. You can keep all the rest.
I want 0 players on the Leafs, you can keep them all

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01-16-2013, 05:48 PM
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To Oilers
Carl Gunnarsson
Nikolai Kulemin





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Nick Schultz
2013 2nd round pick
Ales Hemsky
LOL,

Toronto gets fleeced on this.

Kulemin is 230 pound tank and a proven 30 goal scorer! and Gunnarsson is a great top 4 D.

Very silly proposal offering table scraps.

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01-16-2013, 05:49 PM
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Only oil players I would want is hall rnh or ebs. You can keep all the rest.
Exactly. Not even RNH.

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01-16-2013, 06:01 PM
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Only oil players I would want is hall rnh or ebs. You can keep all the rest.
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Exactly. Not even RNH.
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LOL,

Toronto gets fleeced on this.

Kulemin is 230 pound tank and a proven 30 goal scorer! and Gunnarsson is a great top 4 D.

Very silly proposal offering table scraps.
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Lmao. Any GM would take GUnnar over Schultz.
Leafs fans never disappoint.


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01-16-2013, 06:12 PM
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Leafs fans never disappoint.

lmao. Did you accidently quote the one saying Gunnar>Schultz?

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01-16-2013, 06:16 PM
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What...? Are you serious?

1) There is much more to offense than scoring goals.
2) There is much more to hockey than scoring goals.
3) This is a terrible way to evaluate who's a good goal-scorer.
Yup, thank you. Since a defensive forward scoring 30 goals, is better than Hemksy who did not score 30 or is a defensive forward. Also, our 2 players havee way better contracts also

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01-16-2013, 06:17 PM
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lmao. Did you accidently quote the one saying Gunnar>Schultz?
Accident? Its well known.

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01-16-2013, 06:39 PM
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Oilers take this and run? Are you kidding?

I'd rather have Nick Schultz than Gunnarsson and I'd rather have Hemsky than Kulemin. I'm sure the Leafs fans have it the other way which is fine but trust me, the Oilers wouldn't do this.
Again, you and fellow fans keep saying this and in regards to Hemsky atleast there is merit to that claim, however, give me one good reason to choose Schultz over Gunnarsson... Is it because hes older? Worse defensively (youll probably argue this one but i already provided statistical proof)? More expensive? or worse offensively?

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01-16-2013, 06:56 PM
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Accident? Its well known.
Lol at well known. It's "well known" that 6 is more than 5. When you're talking about something as subjective as defensive defenseman, I don't think you can say "well known" with a straight face.

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01-16-2013, 07:00 PM
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Leafs give up the most valuable forward and Dman.

Huge no.

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01-16-2013, 07:02 PM
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Oilers take this and run? Are you kidding?

I'd rather have Nick Schultz than Gunnarsson and I'd rather have Hemsky than Kulemin. I'm sure the Leafs fans have it the other way which is fine but trust me, the Oilers wouldn't do this.
Gunnar > Schultz

Hemsky > Kulemin (when healthy, which isn't very often at all....)

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01-16-2013, 07:57 PM
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The value is more than fair, and favors TO if anything, but I don't think either does it

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01-16-2013, 09:27 PM
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The value is more than fair, and favors TO if anything, but I don't think either does it
As countless people have posted before me, fair for Edmonton, not for the Leafs. Toronto doesn't touch this with a 10ft pole.

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01-16-2013, 09:29 PM
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I wouldn't do Gunnarsson alone for that package.
Now you are just making yourself look bad.

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01-16-2013, 09:30 PM
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If Hemsky is healthy the deal is a steal for TO.

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01-16-2013, 09:34 PM
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Why would Edmonton do this?

Gunnarsson is nice but is he really that big of an upgrade over Schultz?

I'd like to see Kulemin bounce back before I trade a legit top 6 winger for him.

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01-16-2013, 09:46 PM
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To Oilers fans:

STOP TRADING ALES HEMSKY!!!

No matter what argument you have or how many points he scores in the past, present or future...he will always be considered a band-aid on this forum. You won't find a fanbase happy trading a 2nd round pick for him.

To Leafs fans:

While it needs to be noted that I like Carl Gunnarson and would be thrilled if the Oilers were to acquire his services, there is a reason why the Leafs gave up the second-most goals in the NHL last season.

Now I'm not pinning that on Gunnarson, but perhaps the defense wasn't as solid as some would have you believe. So please don't delude yourselves into thinking the Leafs would be fleeced in this deal.

Hemsky and Kulemin are basically a wash. Both have high potential for rebound years after s**tting the bed last season. If there's a trade to be had here, this would probably be it.


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01-16-2013, 10:39 PM
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How is someone who has never scored 30 goals an upgrade from someone who has?
How is someone who has never scored 60 points an upgrade from someone who has TWICE?

Hemsky also outscored Kulemin last year in BOTH goals and points.

Nice attempt though.


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01-16-2013, 10:51 PM
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LOL,

Toronto gets fleeced on this.

Kulemin is 230 pound tank and a proven 30 goal scorer! and Gunnarsson is a great top 4 D.

Very silly proposal offering table scraps.
LOL at Kulemin being a proven 30 goal scorer, hes broken 20 goals ONCE, where he shot a ridiculously high shooting %, and it showed next season when he scored an astonishing SEVEN goals, he has never even broken 60 ponts. Hes hardly a 2nd line player.

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Exactly. Not even RNH.
OH leaf fans, never dissapoint. You are absolutely delusional of you dont want RNH, in fact, there is no single player on the leafs that could fetch you Eberle or RNH and no, not Kessel either.

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01-16-2013, 10:55 PM
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To Oilers
Carl Gunnarsson Age 26
Nikolai Kulemin Age 26





To Leafs
Nick Schultz Age 30
2013 2nd round pick
Ales Hemsky Age 29



For this reason alone I wouldn't do this trade.

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01-16-2013, 11:01 PM
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LOL at Kulemin being a proven 30 goal scorer, hes broken 20 goals ONCE, where he shot a ridiculously high shooting %, and it showed next season when he scored an astonishing SEVEN goals, he has never even broken 60 ponts. Hes hardly a 2nd line player.



OH leaf fans, never dissapoint. You are absolutely delusional of you dont want RNH, in fact, there is no single player on the leafs that could fetch you Eberle or RNH and no, not Kessel either.
Why dont you trade us for Connolly? He hit 65 points three seasons ago If we should like Hemsky, you should definitely like Connolly.

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01-16-2013, 11:05 PM
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To Oilers
Carl Gunnarsson Age 26
Nikolai Kulemin Age 26





To Leafs
Nick Schultz Age 30
2013 2nd round pick
Ales Hemsky Age 29



For this reason alone I wouldn't do this trade.
If you want a younger player, the Oilers can always trade the Leafs Omark.

Nothing like having veteran experience and leadership in the line up.

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01-16-2013, 11:10 PM
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Why dont you trade us for Connolly? He hit 65 points three seasons ago If we should like Hemsky, you should definitely like Connolly.
Connolly has also never hit 50 points out of that season, you are delusional if you think they are similar

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