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01-16-2013, 09:30 PM
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Id offer a lot for either Benn or Kulikov, what would you want from Blues?

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01-16-2013, 09:45 PM
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Green, Johansson, Galiev, 2nd for Benn, Fiddler

Wilson, 2 1sts for Kulikov

Benn Backstrom Ovechkin
Laich Ribeiro Brouwer
Chimera Fiddler Ward

Alzner Carlson
Kulikov Orlov

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01-16-2013, 09:48 PM
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To Philly: Kulikov
To Florida: Voracek + Meszaros/1st
Not a fan of either team but this is a really really good proposal. In the shoes of either team I'd lose a little bit of sleep at trading away each player (because I like both of em respectively) but the return is very good for both teams.

From the Isles end, for Kulikov -

Nelson + 2014 1st? Don't really know Florida's needs (I know Huberdeau, Bjugstad are there as future centers, so Nelson may be redundant). Otherwise Nino/Okposo + 2014 1st?

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01-16-2013, 09:56 PM
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Not happening. Goes against everything the Jets want to do for the future. Unless that prospect's last name starts with a G and ends with -alchenyuk.
Perhaps a team in need of a qaulity 2nd line center like Phoenix, Chicago or Vancouver are home to a defenceman or our liking if Bogosian is out of the Question.
A third team could be brought in to fill a need for Winnipeg, (maybe Trouba arriving might make them consider)

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Subban + Plekanec for Benn + Oleksiak +3rd

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01-16-2013, 10:19 PM
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Kreider>>> Paajarvi by a fairly wide margin. Kreider had more goals and almost as many points in 18 games as MPS had in 42.
Pääjärvi's first season was a very solid rookie season, so you could say he's more proven. His sophmore season was terrible, granted. Anyway, you might wanna compare their numbers in the AHL this season. And don't say it's not about numbers, you're the one who brought them up.

I'm no Kreider hater, I think he'll pan out eventually. I believe Pääjärvi will pan out aswell, but it's difficult to say who will be better. IMO they possess similar value at the moment. I'm not gonna bash you for liking Kreider more, it's a fair opinion, but implying Kreider is way better ("Kreider>>> Paajarvi") is nonsense, because there simply is no proof.

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01-16-2013, 10:24 PM
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OP has seriously underrated Benn in the initial proposal. You HAVE to give up one of the big five to even get remotely close to a deal done.

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01-16-2013, 10:30 PM
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Yakupov for ROR

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01-16-2013, 11:14 PM
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Cowen+ for Benn (+ a 1st?)

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01-16-2013, 11:16 PM
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Cowen+ for Benn (+ a 1st?)
is the + Spezza?

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01-16-2013, 11:17 PM
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id do kulikov for voracek (if we cant get one of schenn or couturier) and meszaros. from the blues im sure it starts with berglund (assuming backes, oshie, and perron are off limits) and perhaps steen. a D consisting of shattenkirk, pietrangelo and kulikov would be insane.

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I tried asking what Stars fans would want from the Rangers for Benn in the other thread, but no one would answer.
You'll notice that Stars fans don't start these threads....we're merely observers, with the steady response of "Benn will not be traded".

Of course, every once in a blue moon some poster throws together a killer package that would be impossible to pass up, but for the most part, we all just know Benn's not going anywhere.

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In reality, I wouldn't go for Jamie Benn it'd be total cap overload and the team would have to be blown up after this season.

Of course it would pretty much guarantee us a Cup without injuries, but there still is that risk and I'm hoping we could go for it anyway and keep the team for a couple years.

Oh, and he's not going anywhere. There's that too.

But for the hypothetical hell of it...



Derek Stepan, Chris Kreider, Dylan McIlrath, Wade Redden (cap-dump) 2013 1st, 2014 2nd



Jamie Benn, Stephane Robidas

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01-16-2013, 11:45 PM
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Mikhail Grabovski
Morgan Rielly
2013 1st



Jamie Benn




Nazem Kadri
Matt Finn



Dimitri Kulikov




Mikhail Grabovski
Tyler Biggs
2013 2nd



Ryan O'Reilly


Subban, while good, doesn't fill a need and we're overpaying for trading in the division. No offer.


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In reality, I wouldn't go for Jamie Benn it'd be total cap overload and the team would have to be blown up after this season.

Of course it would pretty much guarantee us a Cup without injuries, but there still is that risk and I'm hoping we could go for it anyway and keep the team for a couple years.

Oh, and he's not going anywhere. There's that too.

But for the hypothetical hell of it...



Derek Stepan, Chris Kreider, Dylan McIlrath, Wade Redden (cap-dump) 2013 1st, 2014 2nd



Jamie Benn, Stephane Robidas
Really hard to say no to this. Robidas is pretty awful for us right now, and I'd be willing to take a chance on Redden replacing him (don't like that price, though).

Essentially, this is:

Redden + '14 2nd for Robidas (a trade I'd actually be okay doing, but still not sold on Redden. If he sucks though, we can just buy him out)

Stepan + Kreider + McIlrath + '14 1st (you don't have a '13) for Benn (which is great value, hard to turn this down).

Great proposal. Benn is my favorite player, but I'd have to say yes to this.

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01-16-2013, 11:46 PM
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Nikolai Kulemin
Morgan Rielly
2013 1st



Jamie Benn
I like this (huge Rielly fan), but we'd need Grabovski coming back to start. Grabo + Rielly would be a great start.

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01-16-2013, 11:49 PM
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I like this (huge Rielly fan), but we'd need Grabovski coming back to start. Grabo + Rielly would be a great start.
I actually had Grabo instead of Kuli before I hit 'post', but don't want to keep feeding the 'If Grabovski is so good, why is he in every Leafs' fan trade proposal!?' trolls.

I love Grabo, but if Nieuwendyk says 'to get Benn, we need Grabo!', I drive him to the airport myself.

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01-16-2013, 11:56 PM
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You have to give to get. You won't get Benn unless one of Hall/Yakupov/Eberle/RNH goes back

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01-17-2013, 12:18 AM
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Nazem Kadri
Matt Finn



Dimitri Kulikov
I don't mean to be blunt, but this is VERY far off.

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01-17-2013, 12:21 AM
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I don't mean to be blunt, but this is VERY far off.
What do we add that isn't our 2013 1st or Rielly?

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Really hard to say no to this. Robidas is pretty awful for us right now, and I'd be willing to take a chance on Redden replacing him (don't like that price, though).

Essentially, this is:

Redden + '14 2nd for Robidas (a trade I'd actually be okay doing, but still not sold on Redden. If he sucks though, we can just buy him out)

Stepan + Kreider + McIlrath + '14 1st (you don't have a '13) for Benn (which is great value, hard to turn this down).

Great proposal. Benn is my favorite player, but I'd have to say yes to this.
Like I said, I wouldn't actually pursue it for cap reasons, but in a vacuum I'm willing to fork over my chips, even slightly overpay, for Jamie Benn. I'm sold on him.

I think it works for both parties too. In this scenario the Stars are getting a chance to retool after losing their best player, and the Rangers are icing a Spacejam team for their Cup push.

I keep forgetting we don't have a '13. Maybe when Nash scores his first goal it'll click "oh yeah that's why"

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01-17-2013, 12:33 AM
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What do we add that isn't our 2013 1st or Rielly?
Gardiner maybe?

If I'm the pathers I'd look for JVR + defensive prospects.

Kulikov is an absolute gem.

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01-17-2013, 12:35 AM
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To Anaheim: ROR

To Col: Vatanen (RS PMD), Holland or Cogliano and NYI 2nd 2013, I might be willing to add.

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RoR is hard to move as his value to the Avs is so much higher then his market value. If we can't sign him I'd be thrilled to get Gardiner+ or Kulikov for him. I can't see many other teams giving much better then that.

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01-17-2013, 12:37 AM
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To Boston

Subban

To Montreal

Hamilton, Knight/Sauve, 1st


Assuming Montreal is in a rebuild mode.


Can you imagine how annoying it would be to play the bruins?
Marchand/Subban tag team to **** you off then to hide behind Lucic,Horton,Chara,Thornton,Mcquaid,Cambell


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