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01-17-2013, 06:44 AM
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60ish points in 48 games??? I`m going to assume your speaking about his production in a full year?

Sorry, for a 1st line centerman with the skill he has, I want more production consistently from him however, it appears very much so that he is here to stay and I am hoping that he brings "it" on a consistent basis knowing full well that it`s near impossible to have it each and every night.

Maybe it`s just me (most likely) maybe it`s because it appears as though he just moves so slow, glides too often that it rubs me the wrong way as a lack of effort. Ironically, where I appreciate his game most is in his own end where that effort is there, just like to see him push that puck quicker and I`ll never be convinced that a player who doesn`t have quick puck movement belongs on the PP
Yes, I do mean a full season.

I think that's placing too much emphasis on line numbers. He has proven himself over a few seasons. No need to trade him just because he appears lazy.

I think Seguin will likely be a better PP option.

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01-17-2013, 06:57 AM
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60ish points in 48 games??? I`m going to assume your speaking about his production in a full year?

Sorry, for a 1st line centerman with the skill he has, I want more production consistently from him however, it appears very much so that he is here to stay and I am hoping that he brings "it" on a consistent basis knowing full well that it`s near impossible to have it each and every night.

Maybe it`s just me (most likely) maybe it`s because it appears as though he just moves so slow, glides too often that it rubs me the wrong way as a lack of effort. Ironically, where I appreciate his game most is in his own end where that effort is there, just like to see him push that puck quicker and I`ll never be convinced that a player who doesn`t have quick puck movement belongs on the PP
Just because Krejci doesn't go 100 mph with the puck doesn't mean lack of effort. I'm sort of gobsmacked that anyone would think that way after watching him play on a regular basis, but if that's the popular opinion, it would explain a lot.

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01-17-2013, 07:24 AM
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Just because Krejci doesn't go 100 mph with the puck doesn't mean lack of effort. I'm sort of gobsmacked that anyone would think that way after watching him play on a regular basis, but if that's the popular opinion, it would explain a lot.
Like I said, admittedly stated that I questioned whether I`m seeing things right or not but my "impression" is far too often that he`s gliding, not putting forth the effort.

I love his skill set, what I`d love to see is him use that skill set, and move that puck quicker at certain times. I noticed often last year, defenseman play him differently than we`ve seen in the past knowing that the odds are, he wasn`t going to either take the puck outside (doesn`t have blazing speed but) or move the puck up ice, he was going to gain the blueline, then immediately stop, I`d like to see him mix it up more.

I don`t think it`s popular opinion that he doesn`t play hard, I have long been in the minority here with my personal assessment (totally untrained) about him, I think that he, like many, has stretches where he appears disinterested. Having seen him play all out during that Cup run, I know that he`s capable of bringing more on a consistent basis, that`s all I want, and I don`t expect him to be an 80-90pt player, not on this team with a roll 4 line mentality.

Only one player in my years of watching this game had the ability to slow things down and make the right play constantly, he wore 99# and I`m not sure we`ll ever see another like em

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01-17-2013, 08:39 AM
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People should be talking about trading Lucic instead of Krejci.

Playing will in the season means nothing. It's those that rise in the playoffs that count and Krejci is one of those players

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01-17-2013, 08:51 AM
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People should be talking about trading Lucic instead of Krejci.

Playing will in the season means nothing. It's those that rise in the playoffs that count and Krejci is one of those players
How about not trading either one?

Not for Benn, anyway. He's not going anywhere. Any time a player has contract trouble or goes on waivers some people want the Bruins to get him.

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01-17-2013, 08:59 AM
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I agree but damaged goods is a rough tag for horton. Give him some time then we can discuss throwing around names like that.


But Benn is good I just don't see the B's blowing up their top line for him just yet.
Fair enough, with the whole concussion thing i just feel another Savard like thing coming (which is a damn shame)

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01-17-2013, 09:05 AM
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I disagree (almost) completely. Not only does that offer not improve this team, but Marchand is part of the core here and not someone you can easily replace at all.
Sorry but in no way do I consider Marchand part of the "core" of this team. Before you ask, Bergeron, Chara, Krejci, Seguin, and now Hamilton, yes before he plays his first game, would be my core.

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21 points in 32 playoff games and can be counted on to score at least 20 goals a year and could push 30 goals a couple times (can come close) is the easiest player to replace

NO! Just no ok! A player like Kelly is easily replaced.
Sorry but I doubt if replacing Marchand with Kelly in the deal would get you Benn.

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Sorry but I doubt if replacing Marchand with Kelly in the deal would get you Benn.
It wouldn't, which is why the Kelly's of this league are easily replaceable.

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01-17-2013, 09:22 AM
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Yes, I do mean a full season.

I think that's placing too much emphasis on line numbers. He has proven himself over a few seasons. No need to trade him just because he appears lazy.

I think Seguin will likely be a better PP option.
I was on a big push to move his arse as recent as last year, I`m a touch more hesitant to do this now with the CBA and his contract not being crazy but that doesn`t mean that I don`t want more consistency from him.

I don`t view him as an elite centerman nor expect massive numbers but is it unrealistic to want those first line stats up? He is looked to and used in situations where I would like to see more from him. He`s got this system down, his teammates seem to love him, CJ trusts him so I have accepted the fact he`s going nowhere and I`m ok with that, this system requires players to play certain ways and it will, to a degree affect their numbers and to just move him with the expectation that a guy will suddenly come in here and post 100pts just isn`t happening and I get it.

I`m a Bruin fan, and don`t care who`s name is on the jersey, I want to win, I want him to show us that drive that we saw in 08/09, then from the 2nd round of the Cup year, consistently battling, pts aside, in every situation, THAT is the Krejci I would like to see again, he had a mentality that nobody was taking that puck from him

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I don't think this roster needs a shake-up on the level of acquiring someone like Jamie Benn. We are like a 3rd line winger and maybe some D depth away from being top dogs again.

Our forward core is built on depth, not top heavy talent. No need to thin the herd to do that.

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Any team who wants to contend needs to make some moves to shake things up, particularly a team that lost in the first round last season. If acquiring Jamie Benn for a player that seems to be standing on his laurels is what's needed, then that's the way to go. I want to see a team that's hungry and wants to win it again, not some team that figures that we won it all two seasons ago and if we get to the conference finals, it's a successful season.

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It wouldn't, which is why the Kelly's of this league are easily replaceable.
No Cage = No Cup in 2011. We lose round one without him.

He's an important part of a championship roster IMO.

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Just because Krejci doesn't go 100 mph with the puck doesn't mean lack of effort. I'm sort of gobsmacked that anyone would think that way after watching him play on a regular basis, but if that's the popular opinion, it would explain a lot.
Especially when people who are close to the team and see many things we don't say he is one of the top 5 hardest workers ..... and in that lockerroom that is saying a hell of alot.

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No Cage = No Cup in 2011. We lose round one without him.

He's an important part of a championship roster IMO.
I agree with this. I think he is pretty under appreciated/ under valued by some.

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I don't think this roster needs a shake-up on the level of acquiring someone like Jamie Benn. We are like a 3rd line winger and maybe some D depth away from being top dogs again.

Our forward core is built on depth, not top heavy talent. No need to thin the herd to do that.
I don't know if it was this thread or the one in "Trade Roumers.........." but I'm on record as saying I'm satisfied with the team the way it is, but, IF, and I doubt they will, the stars trade Benn, I think we should difinately be in the hunt.

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This should all be put to rest soon, i would think Dallas would rather have Benn signed and ready to go for the season opener then go through a holdout

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This should all be put to rest soon, i would think Dallas would rather have Benn signed and ready to go for the season opener then go through a holdout
Apparently there may be "good news" on the Benn front in the next few hours.

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How about not trading either one?

Not for Benn, anyway. He's not going anywhere. Any time a player has contract trouble or goes on waivers some people want the Bruins to get him.
I agree.

I agree again.

I was actually enjoying the lock-out come to think of it.

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Jamie Benn did an interview/feature story with The Hockey News (magazine) last season and was quoted saying that he would not like to play in a big market and is only comfortable playing in small markets.

He aint coming to the B's fellas and if he did through trade, I would be scared about that quote and how he play in Boston

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01-17-2013, 08:32 PM
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6 years at $6 million per is what it's going to take to sign a deal

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6 years at $6 million per is what it's going to take to sign a deal


Um... No. I mean, he's a lovely player. Uh... But score me 30 goals or win something or something.

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6 years at $6 million per is what it's going to take to sign a deal
Really? Was just reading someone who says he doesn't want 6 years. He wants 3-5.

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Really? Was just reading someone who says he doesn't want 6 years. He wants 3-5.
You still set a nail by hammering it's head. So it could have been 1-5 years too but not 6.

What is the difference between Benn and Subban? From what I know/see is 6 years

I would let them both sit out. Players get their over payment at some point. I don't see why after a lock-out there is this.

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Save the money for now, don't give anything up, Thomas is off the books next year and go after Semin.

Lather, Rinse, and Repeat..

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Save the money for now, don't give anything up, Thomas is off the books next year and go after Semin.

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