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01-17-2013, 11:58 AM
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This thread has been great for a laugh.. Roberto a top 5 goalie! Roberto a hall of famer!

One thing we can ALL agree on is that Schnieder has a LOT more trade value than Luongo...

So if Roberto is a so great, why not trade Schneider instead? You could a lot more for him...

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To bad thats never happening
Says you. If a deal is happening with TO it is. I still think Lu is going to Florida, a lot more and better prospects to choose from. TO needs a goalie more and IMO Rogers is getting impatient. Gardiner or tens of millions from playoff revenue? Hmmmm, I wonder what Rogers is thinking. Especially after the Jays just dumped a lot of prospects for proven vets.

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Luongo (5.3), Tanev (??), Higgins (2).


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Briere (6.5), Simmonds (1.75), Boucher (.950)

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01-17-2013, 11:59 AM
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I'd dispute those two.

For depth, look at Van's 2nd line to start the year.

And finally Van needs to win within the Sedins' window. They're in their early 30s now so that window won't be open too long.

Toronto isn't desperate to win at all. The fans know they're not great and expect pretty much nothing.

Currently there's a lot more pressure on the Canucks to win than the Leafs.
Raymond and Schroeder/Ebbett is fine as a filler line until we're healthy.

Sedins didn't get started scoring at a high pace until their late 20s, so I don't feel they will burn out in the next few years. Theirs is a skill game, not a speed or physical game, and barring something awful, they'll be around for a while yet.

Desperate isn't the word for Toronto, yet. This year they don't have to do anything, but after that, who knows.

The Canucks aren't desperate either...just playoffs, that's all we care about at the moment.

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01-17-2013, 12:00 PM
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This thread has been great for a laugh.. Roberto a top 5 goalie! Roberto a hall of famer!

One thing we can ALL agree on is that Schnieder has a LOT more trade value than Luongo...

So if Roberto is a so great, why not trade Schneider instead? You could a lot more for him...
WHy don't you look at it logically and see if you can figure it out.
Also, we've had Schneider threads before innundated with Leaf fans telling us he is unproven and not worth much. You guys are not in a great position to mock Vancouver's goaltending.

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01-17-2013, 12:01 PM
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This thread has been great for a laugh.. Roberto a top 5 goalie! Roberto a hall of famer!

One thing we can ALL agree on is that Schnieder has a LOT more trade value than Luongo...

So if Roberto is a so great, why not trade Schneider instead? You could a lot more for him...
By time Lu retires he will be 2nd or 3rd in all-time goalie wins. Yes he will be a HOFer.

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Reporters don't know a thing. Shannon all but proved that with his "Luongo to T.O. is done" BS. For over a month has claimed that.

As far as EDM and Dubnyk goes. They have more assets then most teams in the league. If they truly wanted another option in goal it wouldn't be too hard for then to make it happen. Seems like you're only believing what you want to believe and dismissing the reality of the situation.
I am in no way shape or form arguing Edmonton has great assets, they are really poised to make a run... if they can stabilize their goaltending. Canucks see a lot of Dubnyk and it's always typically been moderate to high scoring games with Canucks edging out the win.

With the short season; Hall, Eberle, RNH, Schultz, all playing and primed, they're going to come out of the gate flying. This alone is why I think Edm would absolutely love Luongo, because nothing would be worse heading into the playoffs with your biggest "?" being your goaltending.

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Toronto is not more desperate to win, Luongo is willing to stick it out this year but what up the summer when the cap goes down, value dips even more. Canucks have depth to deal with injuries..ok sure if thats what you call Ebbett lol.
Ya, depth, as in he was a depth player. He played 18 games, had 5 goals and was a +2 last season. He was actually surprisingly decent/good. Scored 2 less goals than Kulemin, and he played 52 less games.

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01-17-2013, 12:02 PM
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Says you. If a deal is happening with TO it is. I still think Lu is going to Florida, a lot more and better prospects to choose from. TO needs a goalie more and IMO Rogers is getting impatient. Gardiner or tens of millions from playoff revenue? Hmmmm, I wonder what Rogers is thinking. Especially after the Jays just dumped a lot of prospects for proven vets.
Rogers said they would open the wallet when the Jays were READY. The Leafs are not READY. And just what prospects do you feel FLA will give up that are equal to Gardiner?

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01-17-2013, 12:03 PM
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Just going to go on record here. Kadri might be more valuable, but even lowly Andrew Ebbett has proven more at the NHL level then Kadri has. Or Colborne. Or any Leafs forward prospect. It's not all about youth, although, we have Schroeder from the same draft as Kadri ready to fill in too.

Besides, if Kadri still isn't ready, Nonis just moved both viable veteran center options to replace him. So...risk?
It is a risk, but Kadri has had no shot at all with the Leafs, he plays a few games and then gets sent back down, it'll be nice to see him throughout the year and given a real shot at doing something. He's ready

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01-17-2013, 12:04 PM
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WHy don't you look at it logically and see if you can figure it out.
Also, we've had Schneider threads before innundated with Leaf fans telling us he is unproven and not worth much. You guys are not in a great position to mock Vancouver's goaltending.
This is true.

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01-17-2013, 12:06 PM
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There's a lot of things going against Vancouver so they likely won't get much for him. Goalies typically don't get much even in normal situations, it's an atrocious contract, he has a shaky reputation, and Vancouver is the one with the pressure on them to move him. Nobody else.

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We just moved a centreman onto waivers so that Kadri could have a spot on the roster. He's not going to Van
We'll see I bet he doesn't come alone

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I'm sure he wouldn't mind him, but Leafs overvalue him. Offensive dmen is the Canucks organization weak spot. Gardiner or Rielly or the deal isn't getting done. Not saying straight up, could be a bigger package.
If gillis seriously dug his feet in the sand and said Gardiner or Rielly or its no deal and asked for similar returns from say Florida then luongo stays and the situation starts to bubble. Yes luongo says all the right things in the media but lets not forget it was Lu that asked to be traded. He's a number one goalie that wants to be a starter. Everything is ok right now but say Schneider gets on a roll and starts winning every game from the start. You go with the hot goalie especially in a short season. Luongo will start to get pissed. Now you have the potential of a problem. This is all a game GM's play in trade negotiations to get the best deal possible,use the media as a puppet and take the best deal. Luongo will not sit on the bench and play back up all year. This goes ten games in at the most and he's dealt for the best deal available.

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Luongo entering the hall of fame?

um... LOL.

Need alot more then a few wins as a goalie to get in.

Luongo has no Vezinas or Cups.

He is Curtis Joseph and CuJo ain't getting in.
One goalie is retired, the other has at the very least another 4-6 good years left.

and lol@ "needs a lot more then a few wins as a goalie"

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01-17-2013, 12:10 PM
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We'll see I bet he doesn't come alone
At all. Fixed.

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Rogers said they would open the wallet when the Jays were READY. The Leafs are not READY. And just what prospects do you feel FLA will give up that are equal to Gardiner?
Florida's cupboards are full of prospects, take your pick. Just because Leafs overvalue Gardiner as there isn't much behind him.

Answer me this. If Getzlaf leaves Anaheim this summer because he wants a chance at the cup, do you think he would sign in TO with Reimer in goal? IMO, TO with Getzlaf and Lu are a contender. No quality free agents will sign with a team with mediocre goaltending, which TO has proven year after year

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This thread is going to go nuclear now that the Leafs are out (not 100% but sure looks like it).

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This thread is going to go nuclear now that the Leafs are out (not 100% but sure looks like it).
Why do you say the leafs are out?

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At all. Fixed.
Maybe/maybe not...I think a first would be coming with him too

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This thread is going to go nuclear now that the Leafs are out (not 100% but sure looks like it).
It will come to life again when the Leafs start out 0-5 and both their goalies show their true colors.

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Why do you say the leafs are out?
Since you traded away 2 C's, and you don't have room to trade anymore. Unless Gardiner is going to come our way.

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If gillis seriously dug his feet in the sand and said Gardiner or Rielly or its no deal and asked for similar returns from say Florida then luongo stays and the situation starts to bubble. Yes luongo says all the right things in the media but lets not forget it was Lu that asked to be traded. He's a number one goalie that wants to be a starter. Everything is ok right now but say Schneider gets on a roll and starts winning every game from the start. You go with the hot goalie especially in a short season. Luongo will start to get pissed. Now you have the potential of a problem. This is all a game GM's play in trade negotiations to get the best deal possible,use the media as a puppet and take the best deal. Luongo will not sit on the bench and play back up all year. This goes ten games in at the most and he's dealt for the best deal available.
After the season starts, do you really think that all 29 other teams will be satisfied with their goaltending. I am willing to bet that a few teams will be desperate and so is Gillis, most important position on the ice. Can't compete with mediocre goaltending, as TO proves year after year.

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Why do you say the leafs are out?
Not 100% out but one of the key pieces for Vancouver is likely a center to fill in for Kesler. I suppose they could try to get one elsewhere.

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If there's one thing we know, it's that Toronto's not desperate to win in the least. And from some posts in here, it actually seems like they're desperate to lose to get a 1st or 2nd overall. Face it, everybody wants to rebuild like Edmonton these days.
Amazing eh. Soon it will be a race to the bottom instead of the cup.

Too bad these suckers dont realize it takes more that the draft to win.

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