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01-17-2013, 11:58 AM
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If i'm not mistaking if a team picks him up they have to keep him in the NHL right? They're not allowed sending him right back down to the AHL correct? If so maybe teams pass
They can send him down, but they'd have to waive him again The player has to clear waivers to hit the AHL.

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For sure but at this point he is better to have around then Lovejoy so why is Shero keeping Ben around?
Maybe Shero/Bylsma see him as a better fit or think he can be traded easier. I'm sure they have a method for their madness

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01-17-2013, 11:59 AM
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I like Strait much better that Bortuzzo, but then again I'm not in the GM.

Also Surprised they are going with Despres. He just hasn't stuck out much to me, be it in WBS or the scrimmage last night. However we have our lineup now;

Despres-Letang
Orpik-Martin
Niskanen-Engelland
Bortuzzo/Lovejoy


I like the idea of Orpik and Martin, I think that could be a solid pair.

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01-17-2013, 11:59 AM
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If a team claims Strait he has to stay NHL I believe that is still the rule.

Also Lovejoy probably shouldn't have been playing in the playoffs. He was rushed back from injury.

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01-17-2013, 12:00 PM
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They can send him down, but they'd have to waive him again The player has to clear waivers to hit the AHL.
Not sure about it, I thought there was a rule about this

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01-17-2013, 12:00 PM
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Brian Strait is an NHL'er. Where he stands on an NHL depth chart past a #4 Defenseman is yet to be determined, but he's one of those guys that can play.

And oh, he'd be cheap.

But no, let's continue to carry cap busting contracts because we're too proud to admit a mistake has been made.

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01-17-2013, 12:01 PM
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Lovejoy proved he could be an effective 7th defenseman. Strait proved nothing. I don't get why you guys say it is a risky move. Strait isn't even that good. Too bad if we lose him, but you don't need him.
We need to trade for a top 4 d, not worry about some middle of the road prospect.
I don't see how you can say that. Strait played quite well for us last year... certainly a hell of a lot better than Lovejoy did. And is younger with more upside. Lovejoy will never ever be more than a 7th/8th D for us. Strait can be a 7th guy, but still has potential to be much more.

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01-17-2013, 12:02 PM
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If i'm not mistaking if a team picks him up they have to keep him in the NHL right? They're not allowed sending him right back down to the AHL correct? If so maybe teams pass
Yes. Putting a waiver claim on someone brings them to your NHL team, and if you waive him later on... The team he was picked up from has first chance to claim him back in the waiver list.

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01-17-2013, 12:03 PM
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Too much belief that Strait is a NHL talent. Looks more like a marginal AHL player and the Pens have been putting far too many of them in the NHL lineup over the last 3 seasons.
He was part of the WBS top shutdown line for the last couple of years. At the very least he's an effective AHL player, not a marginal one.

Honestly, part of me hopes he's claimed, and that he gets an honest shot with an NHL team.

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01-17-2013, 12:03 PM
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Yes. Putting a waiver claim on someone brings them to your NHL team, and if you waive him later on... The team he was picked up from has first chance to claim him back in the waiver list.
Ha, thanks for clearing that up

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01-17-2013, 12:04 PM
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Yeah I'm not pleased, as someone who likes Strait and from a asset management perspective. This is the issue we were concerned about with drafting so many dmen. Yes some will pan out, others won't. However, we are in a situation where the org spent years of time and money developing an NHL dman and then could lose him for nothing. Maybe he won't be claimed since others teams are all waiving guys quickly to meet quick deadlines, but it's frustrating none the less.

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01-17-2013, 12:04 PM
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for a good time run a search on Strait for all the other forums.

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01-17-2013, 12:10 PM
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for a good time run a search on Strait for all the other forums.
Okay so it's settled, he won't get claimed.

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01-17-2013, 12:18 PM
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Why we're holding onto Lovejoy is beyond me.

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01-17-2013, 12:20 PM
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This will have to be the way going forward for the Pens.

With the high end prospects pushing the mid to low level guys to waivers because the team is out of options or slots. This is as it should be as long as long as the high end guys pan out it wont be an issue.

Actually not a bad 'problem' to have.

If I was D starved team I would def take a chance.

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01-17-2013, 12:23 PM
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Why we're holding onto Lovejoy is beyond me.
Dan Bylsma is still the head coach could be the answer.

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01-17-2013, 12:24 PM
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for a good time run a search on Strait for all the other forums.
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/se...rchid=18847757

300 posts on him. In the first page comments from Toronto, Ottawa and Ranger fans saying take a shot at him.

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01-17-2013, 12:29 PM
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http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/se...rchid=18847757

300 posts on him. In the first page comments from Toronto, Ottawa and Ranger fans saying take a shot at him.
I hope he gets claimed. I think he can be a very steady bottom pairing guy on a team that needs defensive dept. Who knows he might be even better in a different defensive system. Heard he had some illness early this season, that's why he started off slow this season. He has been great in WBS the past two seasons.

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01-17-2013, 12:33 PM
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Would of much rather put lovejoy on waivers. Lovejoy has no upside he will never be anything better then a number 6 def
Yep.

I might actually have a meltdown.

This is stupid....Strait was our 4th best dman in the playoffs last year.


He'll get picked up. Simply stupid on our part.

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01-17-2013, 12:38 PM
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Color me unsurprised. Or call me an oracle.

Will be very surprised if he isn't picked up.

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01-17-2013, 12:42 PM
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They obviously know more than I do, but man does this club sometimes make me do a double take at some of the decisions they make.

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01-17-2013, 12:43 PM
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So remind me again about this plan to stack up on defensemen because 'they are like gold in the NHL and we can always trade them for forwards'. I am sure that was the plan right? How much gold we getting for this guy? Or even loose change that fell into the couch?

This was always the flaw with this plan. And will show with all the higher defensive prospects as well. Defensemen who have established themselves have value. Prospects or guys with limited track records? You aren't getting value for.

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01-17-2013, 12:45 PM
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Dan Bylsma is still the head coach could be the answer.
Could be true. Bylsma has the tendency to fall in love with fringe players like Lovejoy and Letestu.

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Yep.

I might actually have a meltdown.

This is stupid....Strait was our 4th best dman in the playoffs last year.


He'll get picked up. Simply stupid on our part.
LOL... dude, he averaged 9 minutes per game.

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Yep.

I might actually have a meltdown.

This is stupid....Strait was our 4th best dman in the playoffs last year.


He'll get picked up. Simply stupid on our part.
I think people need to relax a bit. Strait is a solid, serviceable dman but let's not pretend we just lost a young future Norris candidate here. Is he better than Lovejoy? Yeah probably. Is he that much better that it's some devastatingly horrible decision? Definitely not.

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