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01-17-2013, 11:39 AM
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...syas the fan of the long-term ********** NHL team which would be out after no more than 5 games in best-of-7 against Slovan...
Slovan would get swept as Isles win without question as far as goaltending and offense.

Perhaps your point of view would be shared more warmly on a KHL forum....


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01-17-2013, 12:10 PM
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Heh, if the isles were dumb enough to let vis finish his KHL season under the pretense that he'd go to LI after he's done, they would never see him again. That's not happening.

Btw, what was the rolston saga? I never followed that story

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01-17-2013, 12:19 PM
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Heh, if the isles were dumb enough to let vis finish his KHL season under the pretense that he'd go to LI after he's done, they would never see him again. That's not happening.

Btw, what was the rolston saga? I never followed that story
He dogged it while he was here, and just collected his paycheck. Then after being traded to Boston at the deadline, his play miraculously improved and he was scoring in clips. He also complained about lack of ice-time on the Isles after he was traded, but his ****** play never justified an increase of ice-time while in an Islanders uniform.

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01-17-2013, 12:35 PM
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He dogged it while he was here, and just collected his paycheck. Then after being traded to Boston at the deadline, his play miraculously improved and he was scoring in clips. He also complained about lack of ice-time on the Isles after he was traded, but his ****** play never justified an increase of ice-time while in an Islanders uniform.
Actually, he got plenty of ice time - especially on the PP since he had such a great slap shot (couldn't hit the side of a barn if he was next to it). He was absolutely terrible.

The fact he threw the Isles under the bus complaining that he never got a chance here? Whatever.

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01-17-2013, 12:48 PM
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Do we really want this guy here?
Does Garth really want this guy here?

If he sees the inevitability of it and does want to play in Bratslava next year, he could change his mind and get on a plane.

When he lands, i would be very pleased if Garth met him and turned him around, kicked him in the slats, and sent him back where he came from.
Snow is an idiot

why he would try to get this guy who had the Islanders as one if the teams who he did not want to get traded to

but Snow is an idiot, so it is not like we have a GM who has any intelligence, but we already realized this in the last 6 years


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01-17-2013, 01:01 PM
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Actually, he got plenty of ice time - especially on the PP since he had such a great slap shot (couldn't hit the side of a barn if he was next to it). He was absolutely terrible.The fact he threw the Isles under the bus complaining that he never got a chance here? Whatever.
Agreed, which made his complaints even more infuriating.

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01-17-2013, 01:06 PM
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why he would try to get this guy who had the Islanders as one if the teams who he did not want to get traded to
What? He had the Islanders as one of the teams he didn't want to be traded to? When did this happen?

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01-17-2013, 01:08 PM
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What? He had the Islanders as one of the teams he didn't want to be traded to? When did this happen?
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01-17-2013, 01:32 PM
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Snow is an idiot

why he would try to get this guy who had the Islanders as one if the teams who he did not want to get traded to

but Snow is an idiot, so it is not like we have a GM who has any intelligence, but we already realized this in the last 6 years
When Snow acquired Vis, he no longer had a valid NTC.

So, the isles were not on some list because Vis didn't have a list

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why he would try to get this guy who had the Islanders as one if the teams who he did not want to get traded to
Are you the only source of this information that no one's ever heard before? If not, what's your source on this?

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01-17-2013, 02:58 PM
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Slovan would get swept as Isles win without question as far as goaltending and offense.
Defense too, as the Islanders would have Visnovsky

at the unabashed homerism shown by a few in this thread. "Thanks for nothing Isles" Nobody to blame for this mess but Visnovsky himself, anyone who thinks otherwise is swimming in a sea of delusion.

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Defense too, as the Islanders would have Visnovsky
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01-17-2013, 07:14 PM
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He dogged it while he was here, and just collected his paycheck. Then after being traded to Boston at the deadline, his play miraculously improved and he was scoring in clips. He also complained about lack of ice-time on the Isles after he was traded, but his ****** play never justified an increase of ice-time while in an Islanders uniform.
Well, he still showed up and fulfilled his obligations at least.

Though if he wanted a trade he should've kept his mouth shut after he got it.

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Snow is an idiot

why he would try to get this guy who had the Islanders as one if the teams who he did not want to get traded to

but Snow is an idiot, so it is not like we have a GM who has any intelligence, but we already realized this in the last 6 years
i almost always think it's a bad idea to trade for an athlete who is a malcontent on a team. not just in hockey, but in any sport. garth traded for one** who manufactured enough of a fuss to be traded back to CA after being sent to edmonton. to me, that's a questionable move. that said, garth has done all right given his job limitations by ownership. i wouldn't call him stupid. maybe not fan friendly, maybe not a happy public speaker, but he's not an idiot. even making this move doesn't make him an idiot. imo, anyone wanting to look at a dumb move made by garth need look no further than charlie.


** vis weaseled his way out of edmonton. i didn't like that. it's a team in a league where you make your living. have a trusted representatives get you an iron clad no-trade clause or play by the same rules as everyone else: make lots of money from the idolatry your sport engenders among fans/people with- on the whole- much less than you.

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Are you the only source of this information that no one's ever heard before? If not, what's your source on this?
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Slovan would get swept as Isles win without question as far as goaltending and offense.
What? The current Slovan goaltender Janus is superior over the Isles goaltender, no matter who you put in goal.

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Are you the only source of this information that no one's ever heard before? If not, what's your source on this?
Višňovskı was originally entitled to have a list of 10 NHL teams where he would accept a trade to. The Islanders weren't on that list, obviously. No source, but this is common knowledge.

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Unlike most of the Slovan fans, I'm tired of the drama around Lubo. He should have been professional from day 1 and not let emotions get to him. Yeah, LA screwed him, yeah Medvedev screwed him, but just because he got screwed over, doesn't mean he should screw over the Isles, who are nothing but a victim in this situation.

I really hope that when and if he does come to NYI to finish the 4 months, he'll play like a pro, although I really doubt he'll have the same performance as in Slovan. He'll have no motivation to perform well in the 4month pointless season, and will definitely have no chemistry with NYI and its fans. Booing him will only make things worse, for him and for NYI, and its practically given that he'll get booed at.

Its a loss-loss for all, started with him being screwed over in the past and followed with him being emotional.

Sad actually, I hope the 4 months pass quick and he's back and ready for a full season with Slovan.

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Its a loss-loss for all
Could have been a win-win for all, if the Isles let Lubo finish his KHL season with Slovan first. I'm sure that would have pumped him with enough energy and enthusiasm for the remainder of the season with the Isles.

But no, why should we be reasonable, if we can be vindictive instead? And so, it's a loss-loss all-around.

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What? The current Slovan goaltender Janus is superior over the Isles goaltender, no matter who you put in goal.
Janus wouldn't be able to handle Tavares or out-duel Nabokov consistently and it isn't even close.

Again, not to be a jerk, but I'm certain you'll find more like-minded individuals on the KHL board, where you wouldn't have us pointing out that you're deluding yourself about Slovan's chances against the Isles in a hockey game (not 'none at all' but still not what you estimate through the fog of homerism) and Visnovsky's supposed 'honor,' which likewise, you can't really convince us has much of a chance in here either.

There's a reason why the NHL is the league you allege steals Eastern Europeans from playing in the KHL…it's the strongest hockey in the world BECAUSE we have great players from all over the world, Slovakia and beyond.

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Could have been a win-win for all, if the Isles let Lubo finish his KHL season with Slovan first. I'm sure that would have pumped him with enough energy and enthusiasm for the remainder of the season with the Isles.

But no, why should we be reasonable, if we can be vindictive instead? And so, it's a loss-loss all-around.
you keep on saying it could have been a win/win. HOW could it have been a win/win? Lets say the Islanders MIRACULOUSLY agree to let him finish the season there and they make the playoffs. THEN visnovsky wants to stay for the playoffs. You'd be right back here complaining 'the islanders should let him play until they are eliminated'. How, exactly, is that a "win" for the islanders to let him play a few more months in the KFNHL when the NHL season is only a few months also?

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What? The current Slovan goaltender Janus is superior over the Isles goaltender, no matter who you put in goal.
Janus reminds me of Roman God who sees all future and past. Superior even to American Superhero, Spiderman.

Derpity derp derp derp,

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Janus reminds me of Roman God who sees all future and past. Superior even to American Superhero, Spiderman.

Derpity derp derp derp,

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Yeah the great God that couldn't even crack Tampa's lineup with all their goalie problems

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Could have been a win-win for all, if the Isles let Lubo finish his KHL season with Slovan first. I'm sure that would have pumped him with enough energy and enthusiasm for the remainder of the season with the Isles.

But no, why should we be reasonable, if we can be vindictive instead? And so, it's a loss-loss all-around.
There is nothing unreasonable or vindictive about expecting a professional to honor the contract they signed. In fact, what you're suggesting is completely asinine. Go back to the KHL board and continue deluding yourself into thinking a mediocre team from a mediocre league could beat a mediocre team from the best league in the world.

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