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01-18-2013, 05:26 AM
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Realistic Expections for Dougie Hamilton This Season.

On the Bruins sports daily site, i pecked him at 20-25 goals and 30- 40 assists and some posters told me that would be a great season for Dougie and if he had that, they would go nuts.

I have seen them tampered my exceptions and now knowing what a good stats for a Nhl Defenseman should look like, i say that Dougie Hamilton scores 8, 9 goals and tails about 15 assists and gets some minutes on the second Powerplay. What do others think?

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If he learns to play great D and has 10-15 points I'd say that's a great 1st season for him.

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Points doesn't matter. He need to learn how to become an NHL'er and play sound defense,first.

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Points doesn't matter. He need to learn how to become an NHL'er and play sound defense,first.
Yep, I want to see the same curve as Seguin. A great season means he cuts his mistakes down to a minimum. Seguin was a liability on the ice when he first started, then by the end he became a weapon with imperfections.

It won't be points as much as passing the eye test. I have a feeling we will be very happy by the end of the season as long as he gets some playing time and listens to guys like DS and Chara.

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I predict the boards will be afire with Claude's mishandling by February.

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I think he ends up with 3 goals, 10 assists and plays in 40 games. I think 8 games in the press box watching and learning souns about right. I'm not worried about what he does in the offensive zone though, this season should be about learning the NHL game and improving on the defensive end of the ice. I think the 3 goals and 10 assists will come because he'll spend a fair amount of time on the powerplay.

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On the Bruins sports daily site, i pecked him at 20-25 goals and 30- 40 assists and some posters told me that would be a great season for Dougie and if he had that, they would go nuts.

I have seen them tampered my exceptions and now knowing what a good stats for a Nhl Defenseman should look like, i say that Dougie Hamilton scores 8, 9 goals and tails about 15 assists and gets some minutes on the second Powerplay. What do others think?
There's so much more to hockey, especially for defensemen, than points. What you should look for:

Positioning - does he take good angles to the puck carrier, or does he seem to get turned around/forced to scramble a lot? When the puck is away from him, is he still covering his side near the front of the net?

Physical play - does he initiate contact? Can he take the puck away from an opponent, or at least pin them to the boards for someone else to come in and take it away? Does he get knocked down a lot, or can he stay on his skates even after someone tries to hit him?

Puck skills - can he make good passes to get the puck out of the defensive zone, or does he simply give it away? Can he keep the puck in the offensive zone when it gets shot around the boards?

As a rookie, he'll be inconsistent in all those things. The important thing is that he shows some improvement as time goes on. Defenseman is a very hard position to learn. Most don't get comfortable/competent until after they play in the league for a few years. So, the key isn't to have unrealistic expectations. Looking at it like, "He needs X points or else he sucks," is just setting yourself up for disappointment.

At this stage in Hamilton's career, any offensive output would be gravy. The key to this year is him getting comfortable in Julien's system and playing against men. When he gets to the point where the system feels natural to him (when he can react and play on instinct rather than think), and when he earns increased ice time, his offensive numbers will come.

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I know it's hard to be optimistic about Hamilton having a great year but he will have a much better opportunity then Seguin did. There is a much more of a need for a defenseman. This kid has elite talent and I think by years end could see some first Powerplay time. I do agree with the post saying he will watch a few games in the press box but assuming he does get somewhere around 25 to 30 Pts would not surprise me at all. He was the defenseman player of the year in Juniors and I think he will shock people in his first year in Boston. Lets Go Bruins Bring back the Cup!!!

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If he learns to play great D and has 10-15 points I'd say that's a great 1st season for him.
Agreed and those stats will also produce some here to begin threads like "Dougie`s being ruined by Claude"

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40 games and 500 minutes. Plays postseason games

I hope he is able to dress consistently, and also play when he does dress. Will be disappointing if he starts pulling 5-8 minutes of ice time games

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40 games and 500 minutes. Plays postseason games

I hope he is able to dress consistently, and also play when he does dress. Will be disappointing if he starts pulling 5-8 minutes of ice time games
You can have a top 6 defenseman playing 5 to 8 mins a game

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40 games and 500 minutes. Plays postseason games

I hope he is able to dress consistently, and also play when he does dress. Will be disappointing if he starts pulling 5-8 minutes of ice time games
Whether he dresses consistently won`t be the question IMO, it`s whether he shows enough on the ice for the coaching staff to continue putting him out there. How much Dougie plays depends on Dougie.

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Same as my expectations for Seguin in year 1.

That he has a good attitude and works hard. Some semblance of the ability to keep the puck out of his own net would be nice as well.

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There's so much more to hockey, especially for defensemen, than points. What you should look for:

Positioning - does he take good angles to the puck carrier, or does he seem to get turned around/forced to scramble a lot? When the puck is away from him, is he still covering his side near the front of the net?

Physical play - does he initiate contact? Can he take the puck away from an opponent, or at least pin them to the boards for someone else to come in and take it away? Does he get knocked down a lot, or can he stay on his skates even after someone tries to hit him?

Puck skills - can he make good passes to get the puck out of the defensive zone, or does he simply give it away? Can he keep the puck in the offensive zone when it gets shot around the boards?

As a rookie, he'll be inconsistent in all those things. The important thing is that he shows some improvement as time goes on. Defenseman is a very hard position to learn. Most don't get comfortable/competent until after they play in the league for a few years. So, the key isn't to have unrealistic expectations. Looking at it like, "He needs X points or else he sucks," is just setting yourself up for disappointment.

At this stage in Hamilton's career, any offensive output would be gravy. The key to this year is him getting comfortable in Julien's system and playing against men. When he gets to the point where the system feels natural to him (when he can react and play on instinct rather than think), and when he earns increased ice time, his offensive numbers will come.
Thanks bro. I agree with everything you just said. That was very informative and i learnt alot my reading it. It should be called Key guide on how to be a good NHl Defenseman

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There's so much more to hockey, especially for defensemen, than points. What you should look for:

Positioning - does he take good angles to the puck carrier, or does he seem to get turned around/forced to scramble a lot? When the puck is away from him, is he still covering his side near the front of the net?

Physical play - does he initiate contact? Can he take the puck away from an opponent, or at least pin them to the boards for someone else to come in and take it away? Does he get knocked down a lot, or can he stay on his skates even after someone tries to hit him?

Puck skills - can he make good passes to get the puck out of the defensive zone, or does he simply give it away? Can he keep the puck in the offensive zone when it gets shot around the boards?

As a rookie, he'll be inconsistent in all those things. The important thing is that he shows some improvement as time goes on. Defenseman is a very hard position to learn. Most don't get comfortable/competent until after they play in the league for a few years. So, the key isn't to have unrealistic expectations. Looking at it like, "He needs X points or else he sucks," is just setting yourself up for disappointment.

At this stage in Hamilton's career, any offensive output would be gravy. The key to this year is him getting comfortable in Julien's system and playing against men. When he gets to the point where the system feels natural to him (when he can react and play on instinct rather than think), and when he earns increased ice time, his offensive numbers will come.
Thanks bro. I agree with everything you just said. That was very informative and i learnt alot my reading it. It should be called Key guide on how to be a good NHl Defenseman

side note. I had a leaf fan send me a friend request.lol. Cmon now.

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I predict the boards will be afire with Claude's mishandling by February.
I think you are being pretty generous, I predict that boards will be afire by Sunday morning.

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I think you are being pretty generous, I predict that boards will be afire by Sunday morning.
"He's RUININ the kid!!"

My only expectation of Dougie is that he adjusts and improves.

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