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01-17-2013, 12:32 PM
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Rochester can really use Pardy. They'll be abysmal if they don't get him and make some moves.

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01-17-2013, 12:32 PM
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So who is currently in/out/on the bubble for the 23 man roster?

Forwards definitely in: Vanek, Pominville, Hodgson, Ennis, Stafford, Foligno, Ott, Leino, Hecht, Kaleta (10)
Dmen definitely in: Myers, Erhoff, Regehr, Leopold, Sekera, Sulzer (6)
Goalies in: Miller, Enroth (2)
IR/In when they get back: Gerbe, McCormick (2)
20 players locked for the roster.

That leaves the following with 5 current spots, but only 3 once Gerbe and McCormick get back. Also of note, there would be 1-2 current spots in the starting lineup, with maybe one (McCormick's) once the injured come back.

Grigorenko (will play if with the team), Ellis, Brennan, Weber. So I'd guess they all stay up until the walking wounded return? I'd also assume Grigorenko and Ellis play. Unless they use Brennan as a 7th dman/pp specialist.
Most likely scenarios to 23 man roster when Gerbe and McCormick come off IR:

1. Injuries after 4 games in 5 nights make this debate a moot point
2. Waive McCormick
3. Waive Ellis
4. Return Grigorenko to junior
5. Injuries to Islander D allow us to trade Brennan

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01-17-2013, 09:06 PM
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So who is currently in/out/on the bubble for the 23 man roster?

Forwards definitely in: Vanek, Pominville, Hodgson, Ennis, Stafford, Foligno, Ott, Leino, Hecht, Kaleta (10)
Dmen definitely in: Myers, Erhoff, Regehr, Leopold, Sekera, Sulzer (6)
Goalies in: Miller, Enroth (2)
IR/In when they get back: Gerbe, McCormick (2)
20 players locked for the roster.

That leaves the following with 5 current spots, but only 3 once Gerbe and McCormick get back. Also of note, there would be 1-2 current spots in the starting lineup, with maybe one (McCormick's) once the injured come back.

Grigorenko (will play if with the team), Ellis, Brennan, Weber. So I'd guess they all stay up until the walking wounded return? I'd also assume Grigorenko and Ellis play. Unless they use Brennan as a 7th dman/pp specialist.
Sounds like Gragnani all over again.

Anyway, like I said on the main board, sucks for Pardy, but Ott was the gem the Sabres really wanted and we only took Pardy off the Stars' hands because Ott was coming with him in that trade, much like Regehr was the treasure we wanted and took Kotalik too to make that one happen. We all knew this was happening to Pardy since day one. A mix of us having too many defensemen, Pardy's sub-par play (assuming he didn't look good in camp), and his contract all helped seal his fate and unfortunately for him he was the odd man out. It's a business and the best players will play and contract also affects that, so the writing was on the wall for Pardy since the moment we acquired him. He wasn't going to beat out any of our other defensemen, including Weber, who has been equally as mediocre lately. Even if Pardy impressed at camp chances are he was done for.

Again, I feel bad for the guy. Someone posted an article on the main board about him being really excited for a fresh start and getting out of a bad situation in Dallas so it makes me feel for him whole-heartedly that the opportunity he wanted won't be here. I just hope he acts like a professional and realizes (assuming he clears and he's sent to Rochester, like planned) that he'll only be down there for a few months and can go to the market this summer in an attempt at a new contract elsewhere. Could be a decent bottom-pairing or seventh on a team, but not here, so we'll eat the $1.1M cap hit and it won't hurt us, unless he's claimed.

I'm fifty-fifty on him clearing. It'd be good for Rochester if he does since we lost Finley, but he has a chance at being claimed with the Isles setting this precedent for claiming players this week. Who knows? If he's claimed we're off the hook and don't have to worry about his cap hit or salary, although both of which won't handcuff us in making other deals mid-season or at the deadline anyway. If he clears, Rochester gets help and we pay the salary and take a small cap hit for burying him. Really doesn't matter to us what happens, although Amerks fans likely want him to clear so they have some help. Regardless I think we'll get Finley back soon anyway but Pardy will help a weak defense regardless.

Again, feel bad for Pardy, I truly do, just as I did with Morrisonn but it's part of the business and game, as well as the well-being of the team. Just a bad situation turning worse for him, but he'll be free in a few months. Let's just hope he acts professionally and reports assuming he clears and takes it with a positive attitude, as a building block for getting back to the NHL in the summer.

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01-17-2013, 09:17 PM
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Meh,it's a business. I don't feel too bad for someone making $2 million dollars a year when they aren't that skilled. I do agree that Buffalo agreed to take Pardy in order to acquire Ott, and I have no problem doing moves like that, we aren't spending to the cap this year anyway.

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01-17-2013, 09:41 PM
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Pardy could well be back in Buffalo at some point if he clears waivers. He's a pretty decent player. When McCormick/Gerbe return, moves will have to be made. Grigorenko could be returned to juniors or a McCormick/Ellis could be reassigned to Rochester. However, between now and then a defenseman could be traded as well.

Or further down the line, the Sabres may not see enough out of Brennan or Weber to believe they are on the right track to have a place here and move one.

At any rate, he should be very good for Rochester and I'm hoping for the organization's sake that he clears.

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01-17-2013, 09:50 PM
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Saw McCormick was participating in camp though, so will he be eligible for IR? He didn't look like he was hurt.

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01-17-2013, 09:52 PM
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Saw McCormick was participating in camp though, so will he be eligible for IR? He didn't look like he was hurt.
I'd guess that they did their physicals today, as they are not allowed to practice on the day they do them.
If he doesn't pass for whatever reason, they can put him on IR.

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01-17-2013, 10:01 PM
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Playing overseas on a regular contract.
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He signed a one year deal with Moscow of the KHL. No NHL out clause.
Smart move with the lockout.
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I completely forgot about him at this point. That's kind of sad actually.

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01-17-2013, 10:15 PM
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Saw McCormick was participating in camp though, so will he be eligible for IR? He didn't look like he was hurt.
Its his finger so probably couldn't tell much from skating etc and its not like he's a stickhandling wizard

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01-17-2013, 10:22 PM
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If I had to guess we will have a guy on the IR at all times this season or atleast most of the year, we will need to use a lot of our organization.

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It wouldn't surprise me if Ellis is the swing-man for assignment. He's got an expensive 1-way deal for this year for a 4th liner, relative to many around the league.

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01-18-2013, 11:10 AM
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Pardy, Porter and Tarnasky all clear waivers.
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Per @TSNBobMcKenzie, no other claims. So D Adam Pardy coming to the #Amerks, and C Kevin Porter, LW Nick Tarnasky are staying with #ROC.

Link: https://twitter.com/kevinoDandC/stat...17629434179584

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01-18-2013, 11:12 AM
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NYI claimed another defensemen today. You gotta think Finley is going to get cut eventually.

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Glad they all cleared. Was worried in particular about Porter. Pardy will be a big help here I would think.

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