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Sam Gagner vs Kyle Turris

View Poll Results: Who will have a better season?
Sam Gagner 239 48.19%
Kyle Turris 257 51.81%
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01-18-2013, 01:41 AM
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Let's compare, shall we?

Draft years:
Turris (BCHL) 53 games, 121 points
Gagner (OHL) 53 games, 118 points

point totals near identical. Turris played in a lower league, but Gagner played with much better linemates (Kane and Kostitsyn). Pretty much a wash. Edge to Turris here because he was drafted higher, so I guess scouts saw more potential in him.

First full NHL season:
Turris (19): 63 games, 20 points (0.31 ppg)
Gagner(18) 79 games, 49 points (0.62 ppg)


Past NHL season:
Turris: 49 games, 27 points (.55 ppg)
Gagner:75 games, 47 points (.63 ppg)

Career totals:
Turris: 186 GP, 31 goals, 75 points (.16 GPG, .40 PPG)
Gagner: 366 GP, 77 goals, 220 points( .21 GPG, .60 PPG)

Gagner has been a much better player since they've been drafted. Better goal scorer, better player, etc. I have no idea who is better defensively, but I do know that Turris is not so much better than Gagner defensively that it makes up for the offensive gap. Can Turris turn out to be the better player? Definitely.

Right now, its Gagner AINEC.
The question begin who will have a bigger impact in their team, I think it's important to consider who had a bigger impact on their team last year.

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01-18-2013, 01:45 AM
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Gagner is better offensively, Turris is better defensively. Depends what you need.

I'm happy with Turris as a Sens fan though.

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01-18-2013, 01:46 AM
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There's not much to debate. Both are #2 centers, same age, similar production, etc. Just comes down to preference.

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01-18-2013, 01:56 AM
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Based on how I've seen him play in Ottawa, I say Turris. He also stepped up huge in the playoffs and scored one of the nicest goals I've seen in playoff overtime. Again, he just seems to be a guy that will flourish in Ottawa's system. I'd recommend rating his play on this new team and waiting to decide.

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01-18-2013, 02:18 AM
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How do you define a better season. Points on a crappy team with more ice time?

I think Turris has more two-way skill, and whether or not Sam Gagner outscores him picking up the breadcrumbs of other Oiler forwards, it doesnt change a thing.

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01-18-2013, 07:57 AM
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01-18-2013, 08:05 AM
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I think Gagner has the edge right now.

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01-18-2013, 11:28 AM
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01-18-2013, 12:16 PM
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Should easily be Gagner but this is HF we're talking
Shouldn't easily be Gagner but this is an Edmonton Oilers player we're talking about.

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01-18-2013, 12:52 PM
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Jerk Store, it's Schultz, not Shultz. I've seen you spell that wrong over and over... it's not very difficult.

Gagner. This season could change my opinion though.

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01-18-2013, 12:54 PM
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Jerk Store, it's Schultz, not Shultz. I've seen you spell that wrong over and over... it's not very difficult.

Gagner. This season could change my opinion though.

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01-18-2013, 01:08 PM
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I don't think asking for the name Schultz to be spelled properly makes me a grammar nazi, especially when it's followed by a bunch of bashing. I have a tough time taking someone's opinion of a specific player seriously when they can't even spell their name right. I mean, it's not Byfuglien, it's Schultz. Don't wanna pull this off topic, so I'll stop.

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01-18-2013, 01:16 PM
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Damn this was tough... I think Gagner definitely matured faster ( not physically) and is Very slightly a better player now... So for this season I'd take Gagner, but if I'm deciding on a team future I'll take Turris, I think he has a higher ceiling and has an underrated defensive game. He's more complete.

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01-18-2013, 01:24 PM
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Gagner has had the better career so far. Gagner also has two sick line-mates, he's poised to break out. Gotta go with Gagner.
Kyle Turris.

I based my vote on the fact that this poster confirms that Gagner's two linemates are ill and I think that will impede their production. Generally when people are sick they need lots of rest to get over the illness, so realistically Gagner's linemates could even miss some games dropping his production.

From what I have seen of Ottawa' training camp both Guillaume Latendresse and Daniel Alfredsson seem to be in good health. Turris should get the chance to start the year with two healthy and talented linemates that should give him a good shot at putting up some numbers.

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01-18-2013, 01:28 PM
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Gagner. He has all the tools to be just like Eberle but just needs to find consistency. He always goes cold for 20 games and then has a stretch where he has 20 points in 15 games.

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01-18-2013, 02:07 PM
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Jerk Store, it's Schultz, not Shultz. I've seen you spell that wrong over and over... it's not very difficult.

Gagner. This season could change my opinion though.
My apologies. Don't see him as the super duper star some of you think he is, so didn't actually sit down to make sure I was spelling Shults name properly

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01-18-2013, 02:09 PM
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Just because Sammy Gagne gets 6 points in a single game means we're all supposed to be impressed?

Please!

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01-18-2013, 02:17 PM
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AINEC should be banned. Both these players are pretty close in skill level IMO.

Gagner will most likely put up more points since Edmonton has an elite offensive top 6 for him to play in.

As for what the OP actually asked, Turris will have the bigger impact. He'll be leaned on every night and will play a bigger role on his team then Gagner. Turris will be either the Sens 2nd or 3rd most productive forward whereas Gagner could be 6th or 7th on his team.

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01-18-2013, 02:23 PM
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On February 2 2012, Gagner scored 4 goal and 4 assists for 8 points. On the same day, Turris scored 0 points.

Gagner AINEC.

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01-18-2013, 02:33 PM
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Gagner is so much better that Oil fans are including him in every silly trade proposal they make in the Trade Rumors and Free Agent talk thread.

i voted for Kyle Turris.

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On February 2 2012, Gagner scored 4 goal and 4 assists for 8 points. On the same day, Turris scored 0 points.

Gagner AINEC.
Kyle Turris?..best season is 29 pts.? that's just, well, sad.
seems he has A LOT of games where he scores 0 points.

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01-18-2013, 03:03 PM
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Have to go with Gagner at this point. I'm not a big fan of him, but he's proven more than Turris has at this point.

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01-18-2013, 03:21 PM
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Sam Gagner and it's not even close.

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01-18-2013, 03:57 PM
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Kyle Turris. I think Gagner will get lost in the shuffle in Edmonton this year.

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01-18-2013, 04:03 PM
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My player has crappy offensive numbers?

Hes great defensively!

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