HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Trade Rumour Thread I: Post-Lockout Madness

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
01-18-2013, 01:36 PM
  #326
Bleed Ranger Blue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,930
vCash: 500
The Rangers will have to likely cut salary next year when the cap goes down.

Nice to see that doesnt stop people from fawning over Perry and Getzlaf.

Bleed Ranger Blue is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:00 PM
  #327
iamitter
Thornton's Hen
 
iamitter's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 3,374
vCash: 500
Don't want Connolly. He doesn't fit here. Didn't like him on the sabres, don't like him on the leafs, wouldn't like him on the Rangers.

iamitter is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:02 PM
  #328
Brian Boyle
portnor, pls
 
Brian Boyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Victoria, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,226
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
Don't want Connolly. He doesn't fit here. Didn't like him on the sabres, don't like him on the leafs, wouldn't like him on the Rangers.
Did you like him on the Islanders?

Brian Boyle is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:26 PM
  #329
Inferno
HFB Partner
 
Inferno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Country: United States
Posts: 20,070
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
The Rangers will have to likely cut salary next year when the cap goes down.

Nice to see that doesnt stop people from fawning over Perry and Getzlaf.
why?

We've got 10 million dollars. we're fine (without adding anyone)

Inferno is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:29 PM
  #330
BBKers
Registered User
 
BBKers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: South Koster, Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 5,724
vCash: 500
Send a message via Skype™ to BBKers
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
The Rangers will have to likely cut salary next year when the cap goes down.

Nice to see that doesnt stop people from fawning over Perry and Getzlaf.
The only way to get Perry and Getzlaf would be to buy out Richards and trade Gaborik. Do not see that happening, but you never know...

BBKers is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:31 PM
  #331
nyr2k2
Can't Beat Him
 
nyr2k2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Country: United States
Posts: 23,372
vCash: 500
Awards:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
why?

We've got 10 million dollars. we're fine (without adding anyone)
That's without raises to McDonagh, Stepan and Hagelin. There's still some room, but it isn't $10M. Also take into account we'll likely re-sign some guys in advance of the 2014 summer, when half of the team becomes UFA (Gaborik, Callahan, Girardi, Lundqvist, etc).

__________________

It's just pain.
nyr2k2 is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:35 PM
  #332
Bleed Ranger Blue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,930
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
why?

We've got 10 million dollars. we're fine (without adding anyone)
Fill me in on your math, please. I hope the league office uses it next year.

The cap is going down in conjunction with any savings we'd see from the Redden buy-out next season. Then theres the raises for a number of young players coming off ELC's.

I have no idea where you reached $10M in cap space.

Bleed Ranger Blue is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:38 PM
  #333
nyr2k2
Can't Beat Him
 
nyr2k2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Country: United States
Posts: 23,372
vCash: 500
Awards:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
Fill me in on your math, please. I hope the league office uses it next year.

The cap is going down in conjunction with any savings we'd see from the Redden buy-out next season. Then theres the raises for a number of young players coming off ELC's.

I have no idea where you reached $10M in cap space.
$10M doesn't include raises to the RFAs, nor does it include the cost of replacing the UFAs that the number assumes will walk. So factor in raises to Stepan, McDonagh and Hagelin, plus the cost of replacing Halpern, Eminger, Segal and Gilroy.

nyr2k2 is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:42 PM
  #334
Bleed Ranger Blue
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,930
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyr2k2 View Post
$10M doesn't include raises to the RFAs, nor does it include the cost of replacing the UFAs that the number assumes will walk. So factor in raises to Stepan, McDonagh and Hagelin, plus the cost of replacing Halpern, Eminger, Segal and Gilroy.
Gotcha.

Ok, so we can go after Getzlaf or Perry as long as we field a 17 man roster.

Bleed Ranger Blue is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:43 PM
  #335
JeffMangum
Debaser
 
JeffMangum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Listening to music
Country: United States
Posts: 56,735
vCash: 500
No need for Getzlaf/Perry.

They have their top-6 set. Why add MORE high salary? It'll become a team of mercenaries again if we go after EVERY high profile FA.

__________________

#TannerGlass2014
SEEN YOUR VIDEO!
#SheWentToHarvard
JeffMangum is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:44 PM
  #336
nyr2k2
Can't Beat Him
 
nyr2k2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Washington, DC
Country: United States
Posts: 23,372
vCash: 500
Awards:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleed Ranger Blue View Post
Gotcha.

Ok, so we can go after Getzlaf or Perry as long as we field a 17 man roster.
Hahah, yep, pretty much.

nyr2k2 is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:58 PM
  #337
Barbara Underhill
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuke
 
Barbara Underhill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Montana
Country: United States
Posts: 13,141
vCash: 500
I for one am actually very satisfied with this roster. I guess we'll see how things are going around the trade deadline but I certainly think we have enough big names and top end talent.

Barbara Underhill is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 02:58 PM
  #338
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,521
vCash: 500
Just spit-balling here, but could the Rangers conceivably trade Gaborik at years end and sign/trade for a slightly less paid player and be okay moving forward?

NYR Viper is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:01 PM
  #339
Inferno
HFB Partner
 
Inferno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Country: United States
Posts: 20,070
vCash: 500
i was clear, we're fine WITHOUT ADDING ANYONE

I don't know how much clearer i can get now.

we've got 10 mil to get all our RFA ducks in a row.

I dont want us to go after Perry, Getzlaf, etc.

I like this team. I dont want another superstar, i want us to continue. My "plan" has always been to get 3 elite offensive players to supplement the...well...supplemental talent we have.

we've done that. I have zero desire for this team to add anyone else of consequence. 10 mil to keep the guys we have, and go to war. Give this team a few cracks at a cup.

Inferno is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:10 PM
  #340
Barbara Underhill
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuke
 
Barbara Underhill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Montana
Country: United States
Posts: 13,141
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 View Post
Just spit-balling here, but could the Rangers conceivably trade Gaborik at years end and sign/trade for a slightly less paid player and be okay moving forward?
Yes. To me it depends on how Hagelin and Kreider are doing offensively. But I don't think it's inconceivable, I really like Gaborik though.

Barbara Underhill is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:10 PM
  #341
Jackpot
Registered Abuser
 
Jackpot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 653
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 View Post
Just spit-balling here, but could the Rangers conceivably trade Gaborik at years end and sign/trade for a slightly less paid player and be okay moving forward?
Like Conolly

Not to keen on this idea, not sure who you'd pay less for and be "okay". What is "okay", is it okay like Winnipeg okay, or Phoenix okay, or Ottawa okay? Because I'd rather be like Pittsburgh, Boston, Philly, NYR okay, or should I say contender.

Jackpot is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:12 PM
  #342
Rangers Fail
4 8 15 16 23 42
 
Rangers Fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 17,620
vCash: 500
I love when people talk about trading a guy who has scored 40 goals twice out the 3 seasons he played here, under a defensive system.

Rangers Fail is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:14 PM
  #343
BrooklynRangersFan
Change is good.
 
BrooklynRangersFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brooklyn of course
Country: United States
Posts: 10,453
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyr2k2 View Post
$10M doesn't include raises to the RFAs, nor does it include the cost of replacing the UFAs that the number assumes will walk. So factor in raises to Stepan, McDonagh and Hagelin, plus the cost of replacing Halpern, Eminger, Segal and Gilroy.
That makes it seem a little more daunting than it is - we don't need to sign/replace 7 guys. To be clear, we actually have a little over $10.5MM in space and the only things we NEED to do are:
- Re-sign Stepan
- Re-sign McDonagh
- Re-sign Hagelin
- Replace one fourth line forward

That gets you to a 20 man roster, with a full complement of forwards, D and goalies. If past history is any indication, Torts won't want much more - maybe a 7th D. Easily done if you sign the RFAs to bridge contracts. Tighter if one of them (*cough* McDonagh) gets a longer term deal, but you should still be able to squeeze it in.

Of course, this is before factoring in any potential trades.

BrooklynRangersFan is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:17 PM
  #344
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,521
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackpot View Post
Like Conolly

Not to keen on this idea, not sure who you'd pay less for and be "okay". What is "okay", is it okay like Winnipeg okay, or Phoenix okay, or Ottawa okay? Because I'd rather be like Pittsburgh, Boston, Philly, NYR okay, or should I say contender.
As in be able to fit it under the cap.

It could be possible that Getzlaf makes less money per season on a longer deal with the drop in cap space next off-season. Or Iginla on a shorter deal. I am not saying I am in favor of doing it, just for conversations sake, would it be possible.

NYR Viper is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:21 PM
  #345
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,521
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henriks Broadway Hat View Post
I love when people talk about trading a guy who has scored 40 goals twice out the 3 seasons he played here, under a defensive system.
I love hearing what you love. So touche.

If they aren't even thinking about re-signing him, it may be a better option to maximize an asset and bring in someone on a shorter term deal. That's all.

And I am not even saying whether or not I am in favor of it, but it can, at the very least, be discussed.

NYR Viper is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:25 PM
  #346
Inferno
HFB Partner
 
Inferno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Country: United States
Posts: 20,070
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 View Post
I love hearing what you love. So touche.

If they aren't even thinking about re-signing him, it may be a better option to maximize an asset and bring in someone on a shorter term deal. That's all.

And I am not even saying whether or not I am in favor of it, but it can, at the very least, be discussed.
I'd re-sign the guy. perennial 40 goal scorers don't grown on trees.

Inferno is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:26 PM
  #347
Jackpot
Registered Abuser
 
Jackpot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 653
vCash: 500
Why wouldn't we be thinking about resigning one of the elite offensive scoring fwd's currently playing in the NHL? That wouldn't be smart IMO

Jackpot is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:30 PM
  #348
NYR Viper
Moderator
 
NYR Viper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Country: United States
Posts: 28,521
vCash: 500
Would you re-sign him if he was looking for another 5 year contract? I'd re-sign Gaborik on a ~5-6 million dollar deal for 3 more years. If he wants more than that in terms of dollars or years I would be FAR more hesitant.

NYR Viper is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:34 PM
  #349
BlueshirtBlitz
Rich Nash
 
BlueshirtBlitz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 18,869
vCash: 500
If the price is right, there's no reason NOT to bring back Gabby.

Even if he becomes a 55-60~ point second liner at the end, he still would bring a dynamic to the team that would be missed if he was gone. All depends if the money is right.

BlueshirtBlitz is offline  
Old
01-18-2013, 03:38 PM
  #350
Jackpot
Registered Abuser
 
Jackpot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Syracuse, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 653
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 View Post
Would you re-sign him if he was looking for another 5 year contract? I'd re-sign Gaborik on a ~5-6 million dollar deal for 3 more years. If he wants more than that in terms of dollars or years I would be FAR more hesitant.
Agreed, I would hope Gaborik's desire to win, would be an overwhelming factor in him signing a deal that benefits both parties. But we all know how that goes, add to that the fact it could be his final contract could complicate things...

Jackpot is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:10 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.