all because of money? it's pathetic, he's a starter for god sakes, he's not a backup goalie, he had good numbers in his career that's why they picked him up, if they get rid of him, the goalie caursel will start again with waver wire goalies and backups, unless they have a plan to get a good starter goalie, not waver wire/backup position goalies that's the only way they'll get rid of him, plus they gave up so much to get him and you are getting rid of him for nothing.
snider is behind him, he wont get rid of him no matter who bad of a season he has because of a lously team, deal with it.
That about sums it up. The commitment's been made. And people who talk flippantly about "saving the money to get a better goalie" have somehow (how I don't know) forgotten how hard it is to find one of those. It's not like the team hadn't been trying constantly.
all because of money? it's pathetic, he's a starter for god sakes, he's not a backup goalie, he had good numbers in his career that's why they picked him up, if they get rid of him, the goalie caursel will start again with waver wire goalies and backups, unless they have a plan to get a good starter goalie, not waver wire/backup position goalies that's the only way they'll get rid of him, plus they gave up so much to get him and you are getting rid of him for nothing.
snider is behind him, he wont get rid of him no matter who bad of a season he has because of a lously team, deal with it.
If Bryz has a season like he did last season and plays like he did in the KHL they will get rid of him, that you can be sure of. The Flyers have a free pass with his contract and will take it if he falters. What was Snider supposed to say "This will be a test season for him, if we dont like it we will buy him out". Not likely. I totally expect Bryz to be as inconsistant as ever, he has never given as a reason to think he will be consistent.
Also they signed Bryz as a UFA, they gave up absolutely nothing to get him except for 9 years of suckitude with 5.6 million dollars of your money for mediocrity. They were getting rid of Carter and Richards with or without the signing of Bryz.
If Bryz has a season like he did last season and plays like he did in the KHL they will get rid of him, that you can be sure of. The Flyers have a free pass with his contract and will take it if he falters. What was Snider supposed to say "This will be a test season for him, if we dont like it we will buy him out". Not likely. I totally expect Bryz to be as inconsistant as ever, he has never given as a reason to think he will be consistent.
Also they signed Bryz as a UFA, they gave up absolutely nothing to get him except for 9 years of suckitude with 5.6 million dollars of your money for mediocrity. They were getting rid of Carter and Richards with or without the signing of Bryz.
One has to wonder if Snider was one of the owners saying they wanted buyout options b/c they made some "mistakes." I remember some of the players getting mad about it but don't remember if it was substantiated or not..
The thing that pisses me off about the flyers, not the signing of bryz. trying to make something happen. its that we got nothing in the pipeline. and don't tell me hoivenin. I mean a guy like schneider, even quick, bernier, elliot. all guys selected and grown in systems. last guy i remember doin that with was boucher. i remember hearing bout him before he came up. but we should have a bunch a names we keep hearing and we don't. cal heater sucks and will not make the flyers. we need to learn from our mistakes considering our biggest problem is and has been for over 30 years goaltending.
The thing that pisses me off about the flyers, not the signing of bryz. trying to make something happen. its that we got nothing in the pipeline. and don't tell me hoivenin. I mean a guy like schneider, even quick, bernier, elliot. all guys selected and grown in systems. last guy i remember doin that with was boucher. i remember hearing bout him before he came up. but we should have a bunch a names we keep hearing and we don't. cal heater sucks and will not make the flyers. we need to learn from our mistakes considering our biggest problem is and has been for over 30 years goaltending.
Well, there's Stolarz now and people say Heeter has been playing better lately. Plus, he has a respectable save percentage in the AHL. I don't know what his projections are, but why would he not be able to get to an NHL backup level?
The thing that pisses me off about the flyers, not the signing of bryz. trying to make something happen. its that we got nothing in the pipeline. and don't tell me hoivenin. I mean a guy like schneider, even quick, bernier, elliot. all guys selected and grown in systems. last guy i remember doin that with was boucher. i remember hearing bout him before he came up. but we should have a bunch a names we keep hearing and we don't. cal heater sucks and will not make the flyers. we need to learn from our mistakes considering our biggest problem is and has been for over 30 years goaltending.
Chris suggested in the prospect thread that we start a petition to sign Sunshine (jokingly of course) because of this exact reason. In all seriousness he's probably a top 3 goalie in SEL as a 22yo and is currently a FA so i think it would be a really smart move. Hovinen on the other hand is going back to Finland and people have suggested it's because management hasn't been happy with his play and work ethic in the ECHL. "Stollie the goalie" is the only one signed that has the potential to be an NHL caliber starter imo and that needs to change cause goalies are often hit or miss.
If Bryz has a season like he did last season and plays like he did in the KHL they will get rid of him, that you can be sure of. The Flyers have a free pass with his contract and will take it if he falters. What was Snider supposed to say "This will be a test season for him, if we dont like it we will buy him out". Not likely. I totally expect Bryz to be as inconsistant as ever, he has never given as a reason to think he will be consistent.
Also they signed Bryz as a UFA, they gave up absolutely nothing to get him except for 9 years of suckitude with 5.6 million dollars of your money for mediocrity. They were getting rid of Carter and Richards with or without the signing of Bryz.
alright then, well what goalie would satisfy you? because there's no one out there and im sure homer doesnt want to dismantle youth because fans are crying over goalies.
brodueur had bad games/seasons and the devils didnt quit on him, because they had confidence in him that he will bounce back and they got cup rings.
alright then, well what goalie would satisfy you? because there's no one out there and im sure homer doesnt want to dismantle youth because fans are crying over goalies.
brodueur had bad games/seasons and the devils didnt quit on him, because they had confidence in him that he will bounce back and they got cup rings.
Tell me your not comparing Illya Bryzgalov to Martin Brodeur?
Honestly I don't know of any goalie who is out there that is elite without giving up some youth. Goaltending is the most important piece of the team IMHO and you have to give up if you want to solidify that position because they are at a premium. As I have stated, Bryz gets paid top dollar, 6th highest cap hit in the league for inconsistent downright awful play for a vast majority of the time. 8 more years is unexceptable. Honestly I would rather just about any goalie because of his contract. If he was getting 5.6 for 1/2 years then fine because I know there is a light at the end if the tunnel, but 8 more years of mediocrity is not fine. Having Bryz I basically eating up Giroux's prime because Bryz is not going to get us the cup.
Well, there's Stolarz now and people say Heeter has been playing better lately. Plus, he has a respectable save percentage in the AHL. I don't know what his projections are, but why would he not be able to get to an NHL backup level?
we don't draft for our players to achieve backup status. that's just something that happens. as far as Bobrovsky, he was signed not grown and we did F up his development. this system is not conducive with goalie development at this time. we still need to pinpoint and draft better tho.
we don't draft for our players to achieve backup status. that's just something that happens. as far as Bobrovsky, he was signed not grown and we did F up his development. this system is not conducive with goalie development at this time. we still need to pinpoint and draft better tho.
I don't think the system was to blame. I think signing Leighton to be the starter instead of someone more established did that. It meant Bob ended up getting the call instead of getting a lot more time to adjust to NA in the AHL before moving up. He was tossed into the fire.
Tell me your not comparing Illya Bryzgalov to Martin Brodeur?
Honestly I don't know of any goalie who is out there that is elite without giving up some youth. Goaltending is the most important piece of the team IMHO and you have to give up if you want to solidify that position because they are at a premium. As I have stated, Bryz gets paid top dollar, 6th highest cap hit in the league for inconsistent downright awful play for a vast majority of the time. 8 more years is unexceptable. Honestly I would rather just about any goalie because of his contract. If he was getting 5.6 for 1/2 years then fine because I know there is a light at the end if the tunnel, but 8 more years of mediocrity is not fine. Having Bryz I basically eating up Giroux's prime because Bryz is not going to get us the cup.
what are you going to do if they dont get rid of him? it's team game, if you are so high on goalies then why root for this team then, if you dont like bryz, then why are you rooting for the flyers? deal with it or dont root for the flyers.
I don't think the system was to blame. I think signing Leighton to be the starter instead of someone more established did that. It meant Bob ended up getting the call instead of getting a lot more time to adjust to NA in the AHL before moving up. He was tossed into the fire.
i agree. but you have to admit having an offense first system is a hotter fire to be thrown into. and signing leighton was almost a pity F. we could have saved everybody the embarrassment and just cut him a side check if thats what snider wanted to do for his play in the 2010 playoffs. I personally would've burned the check after the finals but that's my point. we need to not be so grateful to goalies who perform at an NHL level. we need to start drafting and looking for diamonds in that rough.
and if Bryz plays much of the season like he did March last year, they'll be fine.
i will root for him & i remain optimistic.
Flyers already stated that Bryz would play 35+ of the 48 games and Leighton to cover the rest. Wish you people wouldn't be so hard on Leighton, I know he let in a stinger to lose the cup but without Leighton that year the Flyers wouldn't have been there to begin with. He did shutout Montreal in the playoffs.
By the way, the Flyers do have Boucher back as a possible 3rd string goalie, he will be with the Phantoms.
