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Detroit might be looking at Cody Franson.

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01-18-2013, 05:11 PM
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Hmm.. If we trade Franson, do you think we should get Datsyuk or Zetterburg for him?

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01-18-2013, 05:14 PM
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I'll admit I haven't seen much of Cody since he left the Predators, but based on what I saw here, he is being waaay overvalued by Toronto fans. The guy is an average 3rd pairing D that is good on the PP. That's it. I don't see a ton of potential.

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01-18-2013, 05:53 PM
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That awkward moment when you realize he had a higher points/60 than Gardiner, Del Zotto, Hamhuis, Streit, Ehrhoff, etc., and finished 15th in PP points/60.

And the even more awkward moment when you realize he was 7th in points/60 among all defensemen the year before.

And then the most awkward moment when you realize Franson would be a helluva puck mover if he played more than 14:00 minutes per night because Ron Wilson was a tard.
That's all well and good... until you realize that Ron Wilson isn't the only reason he plays 14 minutes a night. The fact is, this team has JML & Gardiner... one of whom is undoubtedly better than him, the other who the organization views as much more important.

Franson's got all the tools to be a VERY GOOD defenceman in this league, and I personally don't think top pair is totally out of the question. However, I don't think that's going to happen in Toronto. There's too many puckmovers ahead of him, and puckmovement is how he's gotta work his way up the lineup.

That being said, Toronto really isn't in a position to trade him without a defenceman coming back.

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01-18-2013, 06:16 PM
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That's all well and good... until you realize that Ron Wilson isn't the only reason he plays 14 minutes a night. The fact is, this team has JML & Gardiner... one of whom is undoubtedly better than him, the other who the organization views as much more important.

Franson's got all the tools to be a VERY GOOD defenceman in this league, and I personally don't think top pair is totally out of the question. However, I don't think that's going to happen in Toronto. There's too many puckmovers ahead of him, and puckmovement is how he's gotta work his way up the lineup.

That being said, Toronto really isn't in a position to trade him without a defenceman coming back.
But that's what he's been doing. You can make arguments that his defensive game just isn't up to snuff and that's perfectly legit. But all the numbers say he's been making very effective use of the limited ice time given to him.

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01-18-2013, 06:25 PM
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A more realistic target than Bogosian.

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01-18-2013, 06:31 PM
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franzen for franson

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01-18-2013, 06:33 PM
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4th rounder + a marginal prospect should do it.

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01-18-2013, 06:34 PM
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There is a lot of speculation/talk that the leafs will be incorporating some of the marlies into the lineup.

Kostka and Holzer specifically because of the fact that they have been playing well and they are in mid season form.
Thought Holzer was considered a probable starting 12/13 defenseman at the end of last season.

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01-18-2013, 06:57 PM
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4th rounder + a marginal prospect should do it.
Or like, you know, not.

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franzen for franson
I know this probably a joke but.....
Dear god no! With the new rules in the CBA that contract is terrible.

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01-18-2013, 07:33 PM
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I know this probably a joke but.....
Dear god no! With the new rules in the CBA that contract is terrible.
Yeah that is the problem with it. You people should look up the rules and Franzen's contract. The guy is a thrity goal scorer with a 3.95 cap hit, plus most of his big money years are already falling off the table, so even if he walked out on you for the last two years at this point his cap penalty would probably be at 3 million to that team and the 5 million to the Wings.

Amazed at the amount of people scared at his contract. Also kind of surprised at the amount of people that think we will actually get to this outcome with a lot of players. I think a lot of these deals are going end up with the player on LTIR at the end of their contract. Lets be honest how many of these guys can truly pass a third party physical late in their career. Franzen actually came over pretty late and I think he will play out his contract anyway, but if you don't like him when he is 39 and he does want to leave flunk his back or knee or something I think we will see a lot of that. Sure the NHL will challenge, but with a lot of these guys the third party doctor is going to agree that there are long-term risks to continue playing and damage is there.

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01-18-2013, 08:30 PM
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then we have a deal

it actually makes some sense
if you give it a little more thought

he's 33 etc...


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01-18-2013, 08:35 PM
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then we have a deal
Left out the sarcasm thing on the first sentence,

should read : "yeah that is the problem with it"

And no it does not make sense to deal a 33 year old 30 goal scorer with a great cap hit for a guy that has struggled to crack a NHL lineup.

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Left out the sarcasm thing on the first sentence,

should read : "yeah that is the problem with it"
what is the wings starting blueline
maybe we can help

we need a big scoring forward real bad
but dont forget there is a youth movement going on here
no 1st picks or top prospects included

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I know this probably a joke but.....
Dear god no! With the new rules in the CBA that contract is terrible.
You wouldnt take Franzen back for Franson?

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what?

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what is the wings starting blueline
maybe we can help

we need a big scoring forward real bad
but dont forget there is a youth movement going on here
no 1st picks or top prospects included
Blue Line:

Kronwall-Ericsson
Quincey-Smith
Colaiacovo-White

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01-18-2013, 08:42 PM
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what is the wings starting blueline
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we need a big scoring forward real bad
but dont forget there is a youth movement going on here
no 1st picks or top prospects included
I don't see a whole lot of difference between Franson and Kindl. The right handedness would be welcome, but he is a PP QB that won't beat out the guys we already have there either. It isn't an upgrade and I am extremely familiar with Franson because of all the time he spent in Milwaukee where I live. Guy has a lot of physical tools but we are pretty far along now and still lacks consistency. You aren't getting an established top 6 player for him or a 1st. I have huge doubts even though Burke put that out there that someone would give a second and if they would he should have taken that deal.

I mean did you guys forget you traded Brett Lebda for this guy? I know in some trades there are winners and losers but I am just stunned by every Franson trade thread I have ever opened. He must look awesome in warmups of something. And when pointing out his production at even strength and then pretending that will hold true, Kindl outproduced a lot of the Wings at even strength last year sheltered minutes help.

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01-18-2013, 08:43 PM
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cool
the ol' coliaicovo and white marlies tandem that paul maurice put together

franson's size makes a good fit
with an awesome low hard shot for the pp

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01-18-2013, 08:43 PM
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But that's what he's been doing. You can make arguments that his defensive game just isn't up to snuff and that's perfectly legit. But all the numbers say he's been making very effective use of the limited ice time given to him.
Yeah he has... that doesn't mean he's going to surpass a Liles/Gardiner on the depth chart.

He needs to be on a team that's going to place a high value on puckmovers.

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01-18-2013, 08:47 PM
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franson came in the lombardi cash dump i believe
a 3.5 million dollar nightmare

coliaicovo franson makes a nice pairing

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Yeah he has... that doesn't mean he's going to surpass a Liles/Gardiner on the depth chart.

He needs to be on a team that's going to place a high value on puckmovers.
And needs them, Detroit is already flooded with them, I would also think that whatever team comes after Franson better want to use him on the PP. Detroit wouldn't use him there either. They have already taken Quincey off the PP because he got beat out and he has been a pretty good PP performer during his career.

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Helene St. James is one of the most brutal beat writers i've ever seen in the history of sports. She writes some of the most asinine **** sometimes.

she either writes this off the wall **** that makes no sense or **** that is so obvious its stupid. i trust this less then eklund.

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I doubt the Wings offer more than a second, if that. Franson simply does not have a lot of value around the league.

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