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01-18-2013, 07:20 PM
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Is Edmonton the softest team in the league? (Mod Warning Post #91)

With one of the most skilled teams in the league Edmonton seems to be lacking muscle. Will this effect them much or can they overcome with skill?

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I can't speak for other teams...but Edmonton is definitely one of the softest. At least regarding their top 6.

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Their top 6 is soft.

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They lack a heavyweight fighter, but Fistric and Peckham are both mean mofo's on the backend and there is some gritty toughness up front

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were soft

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probably no more or no less tougher than the Canucks, room for improvement but enough skill to be successful. I think you are underrating their toughness because it isn't the normal kind. Hall is pretty tough, and we'll see how Yakupov transitions his game. If they put a tougher player in for Hemsky, it would be a non issue imo.

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I think they'll be alright as long as they don't act tough. Play to their strengths and take the PP and they'll be fine.

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probably no more or no less tougher than the Canucks, room for improvement but enough skill to be successful. I think you are underrating their toughness because it isn't the normal kind. Hall is pretty tough, and we'll see how Yakupov transitions his game. If they put a tougher player in for Hemsky, it would be a non issue imo.
That would be ideal. Replacing Hemsky and/or Gagner with a tougher and/or bigger player in the next couple of years.

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Hall is tough? Oh boy.

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Hall is tough? Oh boy.
Not in a Lucic kind of way. But man he can sure take a beating and dish out a few hits of his own.

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Not in a Lucic kind of way. But man he can sure take a beating and dish out a few hits of his own.
So can Brian Campbell.

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They could really use a Backes type in their top 6. Even some smaller grittier guys would change the appearance, Callahan/Richards types... They are a very soft team when you look at the top 6.

Then again, they are young and with age they may play a more grittier game and put on some muscle.

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Hall is tough? Oh boy.
not overly tough, but a big body that can hit and take punishment

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Hall is their toughest player in the top 9. They will beat you with speed and skill but may get pushed around a lot. The D isn't very tough either. Eager and Hordichuk doesn't = toughness since they barely play.

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Hall is tough? Oh boy.
He's definitely not soft.

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Hall is their toughest player in the top 9. They will beat you with speed and skill but may get pushed around a lot. The D isn't very tough either. Eager and Hordichuk doesn't = toughness since they barely play.
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That would be ideal. Replacing Hemsky and/or Gagner with a tougher and/or bigger player in the next couple of years.
I think replacing Hemsky with someone like Backes would make EDM frightening up front at least.

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Yakupov is grittier than he gets credit for.

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Are they really that much softer then teams like Vancouver, Detroit, Toronto, Calgary etc etc?

They're definitely not a team that's going to grind you down physically but it's not like they're drastically softer then every team.

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I think replacing Hemsky with someone like Backes would make EDM frightening up front at least.
Personally I feel like replacing Gagner with a big bodied 2nd line center who can kill penalties and put up points (in the mold of Jordan Staal) would be perfect. They're too soft down the middle, not too worried about the wing though.

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Agreed, Seph. Jordan Staal would have looked nice on the 2nd line of Edmonton because his skillset would work well with what EDM requires.

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Nugent-Hopkins is pretty tough.. Look what he can do!

http://youtu.be/7t29tRMyxUg

Just kidding, he only did that once that I can remember.

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they dont need to physically beat you, they just need to beat you

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Hall is their toughest player in the top 9. They will beat you with speed and skill but may get pushed around a lot. The D isn't very tough either. Eager and Hordichuk doesn't = toughness since they barely play.
Jones? (when he comes back from injury)

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It's a valid concern. Forwards are one of the softest in the league. Defence is looking a little better by adding Fistric.

Oilers need two gritty and physical forwards in their top-nine before making any noise in the Western conference. IMO one of those has to be a second line centre. At some point their talent will get them out of the basement but you need a more balanced lineup to become a real contender.

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Soft is an attitude not a size. If a guy is dogged on the puck and doesn't shy away from contact he isn't soft even if he isn't the biggest guy.

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So can Brian Campbell.
Okay...I can't really confirm if he is tough or not but I guess he is

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