There is no argument that could possibly be made that has Walter Johnson not a top-2 pitcher ever.
Clemens fits in around 5 or 6 for me among pitchers. I also legitimately hate the guy so that doesn't help my bias
His performance at the end of his career, in the live ball era, could both justify and contradict his placement there. But, I don't want to get too indepth on this because I want one of my guys ahead of him.
That said, I've had him 2 before. Outside of my #1, my top 4 is incredibly tight knit so it wouldn't be a hard opinion to sway.
*298 career Complete Games
*3.06 career ERA, 148 ERA+ (4th all time)
*9 ERA titles
*Led AL in Strikeouts 7 times
*Led AL in K/BB ratio 8 times
*103.7 career WAR
*1931 MVP, pitching triple crown
*2-time World Series Champion (4-2 1.75 ERA in 51.1 innings)
The Pittsburgh Crawfords are thrilled to select the greatest catcher of all-time, C - Josh Gibson.
When he played for Homestead he split time between Forbes Field and Griffith Stadium (whenever the major league clubs decided they could use the extra revenue essentially), both very very tough parks on a hitter (in terms of power). The park he played in, in Cuba was 498 to left and over 500 to center. This was not Fulton County Stadium. He also played at Greenlee Field which was owner Gus Greenlee's park which he modeled after Forbes Field only he made the fence distance slightly larger because well he wanted a larger field than Forbes Field.
Because there was really no official statisician in the NEL prior to integration, after that the NEL decided it was the best way to compete in the press with the players getting signed by the white clubs, the stats will always be difficult to draw comparison from somewhat. But we do the best we can with what we are given.